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Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

Does anyone else think dating is legalized prostitution mixed with gambling?

Asked by Self_Consuming_Cannibal (4269points) November 8th, 2010

Many men spend their hard earned money on dating hoping to get sex. Money that should be going for the rent, their children’s college education or to pay for that heart surgery that their wife so desperatly needs to live. Sex for money = prostitution. But the fact there is no guarantee for sex means they are gambling as well.

So I say go for a prostitute because gambling is immoral! LOL

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Blackberry's avatar

It’s an accepted norm to pretty much buy your woman via taking her out and showing you’re able to spend money on her.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

So that’s what that was?... XD

john65pennington's avatar

Lets examine your question. you say gambling is immoral. not so in Nevada, BUT prostitution is illegal in most states. not all men ask a woman for a date, just for sex. having just a date, can be for many other reasons. mainly, because you like/love this person and want to know them better. also, to be in their company to enjoy things together in life. sorry, but i disagree with many points in your question.

rts486's avatar

Many years ago, when I was overseas, one of my friends did the math and figured out if all he wanted was to get layed, it was much cheaper to hire a girl rather than ask one out on a date. Plus he didn’t have to put up with the date’s BS.

Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

@john65pennington FYI I was just being silly with this question. But thanks for your input. +lurve.

nikipedia's avatar

Um… no.

marinelife's avatar

Why do you assume the dating man is married or has children? I think the opposite is more likely.

Many people go dutch these days when dating. Or women reciprocate with a home-cooked meal.

Dating is for companionship with the opposite sex, for the fun of going out, to get to know someone. It is not all about sex.

Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

@marinelife I’m not assuming the dating man is married, I’m assuming the one going to the prostitute is. I appreciate your input but you have taken this question way to seriously. It was just for laughs and conversation. But here’s some lurve anyways.

JustmeAman's avatar

Sex is a driving force for all beings and it is natural. If not man would stop multiplying and our race would end. The drive is there for the survival of the species and the bottom line is we can have the closeness that men and women want plus the sex. We date to find that one special someone we want to spend our lives with. Frankly I have never just gone after sex. Before sex is considered I had to have a close relationship to the person. I’ve been married to the two women that I have had sex with.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Many men spend their hard earned money on dating hoping to get sex. Stupid them.
Money that should be going for the rent, their children’s college education or to pay for that heart surgery that their wife so desperatly needs to live. See above.
Sex for money = prostitution. If you’re having sex with a prostitute
But the fact there is no guarantee for sex means they are gambling as well. Only if you think women are poker chips.
So, to sum up, stupid men do stupid things and it’s not my business to judge but they need a better life path.

iamthemob's avatar

Were you being silly with this question in the way that it represents a value system from the 1950s?

Where are these men you speak of – I’m going to send all my women friends to them so that they can take advantage of them spending their money on meals and such in hope of sex. The only thing left in their pocket in the end will be that condom they was hoping to use…and my friends will be full of fine food and wine.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@iamthemob Ah yes, all your prostitute friends..~

iamthemob's avatar

I associate only with prostitutes. I appreciate the independent business person in the U.S.

Trillian's avatar

Orp orp! (Fins clap together several times) Orrrrrrrp!
Actually, @Simone_De_Beauvoir pretty much summed it up, and I agree with her. I hate when that happens!
Your question is so ridiculous and presumptuous on so many levels it’s not even worth trying. But yes, one can well imagine that any woman who went out and spent any amont of time in your company would be less and less likely to have any sort of intimate contact with you as the day/evening wore on if your conversation were anything like your questions here. So one can well imagine the gamble involved for you. Actully more like a race against time; how long you could keep from saying something off putting before actually closing the deal.
Orp orp!

nikipedia's avatar

@Trillian: Sheesh, I thought I was being mean.

@Self_Consuming_Cannibal, is this a serious question? If so, do you think you can rewrite it in such a way that it asks a thoughtful question? I think you could ask a very good question looking at gender roles in society and our recognition/denial of them, or something about the relationship between sex and money and power.

If it’s a joke, honestly, it’s offensive to both men and women, and I don’t find it funny at all.

wundayatta's avatar

Personally, I believe only in underwater dating. With no oxygen cannister. And your wife and kiddies waiting on shore. You know that you have only as long as you can hold your breath to do what you want to do and make it worth that $200 meal you bought.

But I can tell you that fried vole skins really wasn’t the way to go. The thought was nice, but most women don’t like tiny furry creatures, unless it’s on their backs. Perhaps you remember when you dating your mother… uh dating your kids’ mothers… well, whatever. Maybe you never dated at all.

Now I know you have a fetish for 70 year old hookers, but it is a bit unseemly to throw them onto the roulette table, exposing the fact they are riding bareback. Once again, mother and child standing around, mouths agog, wishing they were vampires or something.

But if you insist, the state legislature is in Harrisburg. That way. Hop on your moped and drive, man. Drive!

ratboy's avatar

Goddamn it! All the women I date must be lesbians—I spend freely, but they don’t put out. I’ve spent as much as $8.50 on a single date without getting any.

wundayatta's avatar

Ah @ratboy Dontcha know? If your $8.50 were in gold and diamonds, you’d be having no problems. It’s the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Gold can keep it at bay.

CaptainHarley's avatar

I suppose it depends upon what sort of woman you choose to date.

Joybird's avatar

This mentality is exactly why I have always paid my way and taught my daughters to do the same. I have told them that in order to not be under any other obligation than companionship you need to pay for your own dinner, ticket, drinks etc. After that if a man seems to feel he is entitled to sex just because I am spending time with him or my daughters are…well he gets the heave ho to the curb.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

No.
No man who’s ever asked me on a date asked if I was a prostitute, no man I’ve ever agreed to go on a date with has given me any attitude about expecting sex and none ever gave me grief if sex didn’t happen. I’m in my 40’s so I have to agree with others and say it depends on who you ask to go on dates.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

Didn’t George Carlin ask this same question? XD ;)

YARNLADY's avatar

It depends on who is dating whom. It was nothing like that when I was dating.

Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

WOW DID A SENSE OF HUMOR GET LOST IN THE TOS OF THIS WEBSITE?! CAN NO ONE TAKE A JOKE ANYMORE? THIS WAS FOR ENTERTAINMENT ONLY! I AM A HAPPILY MARRIED MAN AND I LOVE MY WIFE. I’M SORRY FOR THE ONE’S I’VE OFFENDED, BUT I’M EVEN MORE SORRY THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESPONDED HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR!!!

iamthemob's avatar

@Self_Consuming_Cannibal -

That’s completely unfair. A while ago you asked this question regarding your questions being taken down because of certain apparent quality issues. It was clear that the issue was you thought discussion could arise regardless of how the question was put.

Now, your question is up, and you’re shouting at the community instead of responding to it for taking a joke that can clearly be interpreted in a sexist fashion in an offensive way. That’s the problem with humor – some of it can be considered tasteless, and some of it offensive. If you talk about gender roles, you’re going to have people that take offense. If you can’t deal with that, then you should consider phrasing things more carefully (particularly on the internet, where tone isn’t clear, and responses can be delayed/overlap).

You can’t have your cake and eat it to. If you don’t want to think about the reaction to what you’re posting and just get it up without moderator interference, you get to deal with being misinterpreted. If you don’t want to be misinterpreted as much, than accept some of the moderator interference.

But if you want to express your opinion and say it’s free speech, you better be damn well certain you’re not yelling at the rest of the community for doing the same thing.

PS – they have a sense of humor – just not your sense of humor

Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

@iamthemob I’m not trying to come across as though I’m yelling out of anger, It would just take to much time to send a personal message to everyone to tell them I’m sorry If I offended them, this is a just a joke, etc.

And I just thought that if it was in “regular print” unless it had a name on it, no one would read it. I’m totally ok, with people expressing their opinions, but sometimes for the masses to hear you, you need a bullhorn, well all caps and bold print is my bullhorn. My message isn’t anger it’s just wanting for me to be clear with everyone.

iamthemob's avatar

It’s not so much the bold and caps, although that helps, but rather the fact that you ended with this:

“BUT I’M EVEN MORE SORRY THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESPONDED HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR!!!”

That’s not attempting to say it’s just a joke, or to clarify. It’s a jab – essentially, you’re saying that those who don’t think it’s funny, or responded negatively, are wrong. That wasn’t what you wanted to say…right…;-)

Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

@iamthemob Ok. Good point. And I sincerely applogize. I’m just so annoyed because I think people with a sense of humor like me have been run off with all the close-mindedness (in my opinion) and censorship. I came from a site that would let you be yourself even if you didn’t watch your p’s and q’s. I sometimes think the mods are out to get me. Today I asked the question: “Which would you be more scared to meet in the water; a shark or an alligator and why?” Now compared to the type of questions I used to ask they should be happy about that. But it got removed and needs to be edited. I’m tired of being targeted because almost everyone else with a bizzare sense of humor CAN NOT be themselves.

I would still be going to that site if they wouldn’t have changed their entire layout into a boring Q&A site. I could still be myself, but it’s just no fun to use anymore.

iamthemob's avatar

@Self_Consuming_Cannibal – You’re not being targeted. I’ve had things kicked back to me. Most of us have. You just happen to be asking a lot of questions. Also…remember this is a site for meaningful discussion. Therefore, some questions will be deemed inappropriate some of the time. You are not being censored. This site, however, should not be expected to change its policies so that you can feel like it’s more fun to use.

Self_Consuming_Cannibal's avatar

@iamthemob But do you really think that a question asking if you would be more scared to meet a shark or an alligator in the water is breaking the TOS of fluther? You seem to be in agreement with them, so please you tell me what you think is wrong with the question.

nikipedia's avatar

No one censored you.

This just wasn’t funny.

Trillian's avatar

@Self_Consuming_Cannibal Why are you expecting @iamthemob to justify the decision of the mods? They will gve you a detailed reason why your question got pulled. Take it up with them privately and stop airing your personal grievances like this. Christ on a pony! We all get modded and have our questions sent back for editing. None of us whine and carry on about being “targeted” for chrissakes.
As for your “sense of humor”, it seems pretty juvenile to me. Seeing @nikipedia reminds me to try to be nice. You make that difficult with your self absorption and insupportable attitude.
It is what it is. Fall ino compliance and abide by the guidelines. Don’t look for sympathy if you can’t.

iamthemob's avatar

@all – @Self_Consuming_Cannibal appears to have left the collective. He seems to have been frustrated by the fact that no one was paying attention in the way he wanted them to. ;-)

YARNLADY's avatar

I exercise my Fluther given right to answer any question as I see fit, and I do not and never have appreciated being told that I have no sense of humor. If some people do not understand my subtle humor, they are the close-minded ones.

wundayatta's avatar

One person’s silliness is another person’s meaningful discussion. I happen to think you are brilliant and that you heart is in the right place. If you have left then I’m sorry. You’ve let yourself be chased away by people who don’t appreciate your charms. Again, they have a different sense of humor and don’t see the humor in your questions.

Others of us do see the humor and intelligence and the opportunity to have meaningful discussions of the type we don’t often get around here, simply because people don’t get it. I think it takes a lot of experience and cynicism to be able to understand your humor. Even if you have that experience, it doesn’t guarantee you will appreciate it.

Being defensive about it didn’t help your cause. I think that some perspective and tolerance might help you be who you are without raising the ire of so many others. Maybe, when you come back, you will have learned from this experience and won’t feel like people are picking on you so much.

Anyway, I’m sorry you’re gone. Don’t know how I’m going to feed my absurdist jones now. Maybe someone else will pick up the baton. One can only hope.

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