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If all the quarks, gluons, electrons, photons, gravitons and so on in existence came from a single-point event, are they all quantum entangled? (Strange Universe Series)

Asked by ETpro (34216 points ) December 15th, 2010

We are closing in on where I’ve been going with this Strange Universe Series of questions now. In the question at the top of the list below, we established that when two particles become quantum entangled, measurements made to one in such a way as to collapse its quantum wave function instantaneously collapse the wave function of the other particle or particles that are entangled with it, and this is true even when the two entangled particles are located at distinctly remote points.

We established in the 2nd question near the bottom of this list that quantum entanglement can stretch over any distance from a few angstrom units to billions of light years, and will still act instantaneously.

These two facts leave me wondering how much in the Universe is already quantum entangled with many other particles. Wouldn’t the big bang have scrambled all their entanglement capacities? If so, would their entanglement persist right up until today?
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This is a continuation in the Strange Universe Series questions as follows:
18—What is the speed of action of quantum entanglement over distance?
17—If Space is emptiness, what does gravity grab to bend it?
16—If photons have no mass, why are they affected by gravity?
15—What does it take to convert energy into mass?
14—How does the universe impose its fractal-like patterns of order on chaotic systems?
13—How small can the repetitive fractal features of nature get?
12—How can the most distant quasar be 28 Billion light years away?
11—Can nothing exist without the Universe?
10—How can order emerge out of chaos?
9—Where is the center of the Universe?
8—If CERN proves there are parallel universes, will you move?
7—If the universe expands at faster than the speed of light, does it begin to go back in time?
6—What is the expanding universe expanding into?
5—Big Bang Theory—How can you divide infinity into a single finite whole?
4—How would you answer this speed-of-light question?
3—What happens when the expansion of the Universe reaches the speed of light?
2—Over what distance can quantum entanglement remain instantaneous?
1—What’s your Strange Universe example to illustrate Sir Arthur Eddington’s quote?

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Paradox's avatar

This sounds more like eastern mysticism then science (I had to throw that one in there). I’ve responded to several of your other strange universe series questions and in some of my long posts I perhaps gave you a potential answer. I believe the big bang did happen but I believe there still has to be a smaller level of true reality that pre-existed any quantum virtual particles and this background medium (which relativity does not acknowledge) has to be the true level of reality. Some in the past have called this substance “aether” and many today are calling it “dark energy”.

I don’t believe this dark energy (which I prefer to call i-ther) has some mysterious long range repulsion abilities but rather uses kinetic energy collisions of two seperate types of energy that is made each of positive and negative mass. This breeding effect of different energy types of primaries had to precede any big bang. Apparently the universe has to keep growing at least until it either liquidates or collides with another expanding universe.

According to the grid theory both the big bang and steady state are partially true. Quasars could be evidence of new galaxies forming. Maybe the key here is this so-called i-ther aka “dark matter/energy”. Hopefully in the future we can learn more about this super fine grained background medium or substance. Could quantum entanglement be nothing more than an abstract feature generated by a pre-existing background medium of the supposed one true level of reality that seems to make up the majority of outer space, the i-ther/dark matter?

Dutchess_III's avatar

@Paradox I’ve read your answer six times….can you expound on the “breeding effect of different (- and +) energy” please?

Paradox's avatar

@Dutchess_III It is difficult to explain. It would take me at least 5000 words just to get into the basics about + and – mass primaries and why they create energy when they collide with each other in a certain way. Sometimes I give book recommendations where I get my info from.

I happen to be very knowledgable about the basics of physics and electricity since I work with these things for a living so I do understand alot of what I’ve read about with many different books on astronomy. Maybe I’ll post something later this week in more detail but I’m getting ready to sleep.

Trillian's avatar

Regarding other uiverses; is it posible then that the othe side of black holes open into other universes and pour energy/matter into them and that energy/matter is entering our universe the same way? @ETpro, don’t know enough to even try to answer your qestion, but I’m going to follow it as usual, and I hope you don’t mind answering my simple qustions that you make me think of by your bigger question.

ETpro's avatar

@Paradox I have the book you recommended but have to finish a libary loan book before the fine becomes unmanageable. Yours is net. :-)

My disquisition may sound like Eastern religion, but it is not any faith or myth that has carried me there. However, if that is where exploring the facts as I see them takes me, I am more than willing to go.

The universe as we know it appears not to have any center. So if I could manage such a trip, and I flew from here in our Milky Way 28 billion light years to the most distant observed galaxy in any direction, then pointed by telescope out, in any direction I looked, I would still see distant galaxies all at the same distance moving away from me. So I would have gone form what appears to be the center of the Universe—the Milky Way Galaxy—where there are objects 28 billion light years away in every direction. I would have traveled to what, from the Milky way, appears to be the edge of the Universe, and I’d still be in the apparent center.

Now that implies a morphology other and a 3-dimensional object with time as a fourth dimension. So we live in a Universe of an unknown number of dimensions and undefined morphology. And for all we know what appears expansion to us is actually going to end up in implosion triggering another big bang.

@Trillian That would assume that there is the counterpart of the Black Hole, a White Hole. Relativity and Quantum theory are quite happy with that and in fact the common duality we find in the Universe, +1 charge and -1 charge, up and down spin, particle and anti-particle; would argue that there ought to be white holes that spew forth energy and matter just as black holes swallow up the same. To date we have not found such a phenomena. But that is not to rule out the possibility they exist.

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