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Different standards of porn addiction and the gender gap?

Asked by nebule (16452points) May 6th, 2011

After reading this article this morning I don’t know whether to feel infuriated by the implicit stance of the article or sympathy for these women…or maybe both??

Please see article: Why more and more women are using pornography

To start with the title doesn’t suggest a problem, but as you read the article it becomes quite clear that women using pornography in an addictive fashion is wrong and unhealthy, despite the clear biological benefits of the practice – perhaps when taken in moderation. And it seems that it is not the act in itself that is the problem but the way that women are implicitly led to feel about using porn.

Furthermore there is no representation of women who use porn freely, without guilt and ‘healthily’. This makes me a little mad. The idea that women feel guilt because we see the women acting in porn as degraded and used is as I understand it, not entirely necessary. Many women that work in the ‘porn’ industry do so freely and feel empowered by it and it’s important I think to clarify what kinds of porn we’re talking about here. There are many forms of artistic ‘porn’ available across multiple mediums.

I ‘use’ porn frequently, sometimes many times a day and sometimes not at all…personally I think it depends on my hormones and other factors. I used to feel guilty about my sexuality but no longer do (after years of counselling and education). I would like to think that we can change the way we as a society think about women and pornography to give us much more freedom to feel and act on our impulses, whether that be 20 times a day or not.

I’m intrigued to know what your overall stance on the subject is:
Is it ok for people to use porn?
Is it ok for men and not women or women and not men?
Does the level of acceptability rely on certain factors? Amount of time spent? Type of porn?
What do you think about the article?

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Hibernate's avatar

I like the last comment ” We have to give them the opportunity to say: ‘Me too.’” ” in the context of porn being used mainly by men there.

Can’t say it’s okay or not but I can say that it’s something that sells [ sex sells because people want it ]

Porn should be okay for both genres.

Some use porn just for learning purposes but others get addicted and cannot stop watching it.
Time spent shouldn’t be a factor that determinates acceptability . Neither the type because different people have different tastes. Some like asians while others want to see latex etc etc

Overall the article is great. Especially the part when people talk from experience .. being hooked to porn a girl said “had no friends , no passions” That tells it all.

TexasDude's avatar

Is it ok for people to use porn?
Sure, as long as the depicted parties consent and are of legal age, and the user doesn’t shove it down my throat no pun intended it’s neither mine, nor the goobermint’s business.

Is it ok for men and not women or women and not men?
Contrary to popular belief, men and women alike have active sex drives and often experience the need to masturbate. There is no reason why one gender should be allowed the benefit of porn while the other is expected to do without. Whatever gets your jollies off.

Does the level of acceptability rely on certain factors?
Don’t masturbate to kiddy porn or pictures of people doing shit they didn’t consent to, and you’re cool in my book.

Amount of time spent?
If it gets in the way of your daily functioning, then it’s a problem. Otherwise, wank away. Again, it’s none of my business.

Type of porn?
As mentioned before, stick to stuff that is legal and not quantifiably harmful and it’s all good. Additionally, I don’t care if giant throbbing beefhammers, or sapphic love triangles, or interracial amputee clown porn is your thing, regardless of whether you are a man or a woman or something in between. Just keep it legal and keep it to yourself, and you’re good with me.

What do you think about the article?
Too long; didn’t read.

rooeytoo's avatar

I am so much an equalist and it always annoyed me when “they” claimed females are not stimulated by visuals. But I do wish women would find a different way of making a living than being in porn movies. It really is a thought provoking question and forcing me to think from a different perspective. I have to give it more thought and see what others say. GQ

(In the meantime @Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard – I really would like to see the interracial amputee clown porn, can you provide a link please.)

TexasDude's avatar

@rooeytoo, well… you can try google image search. I was… eh… rather successful in my search, if that’s indeed the kind of word to use…

Scooby's avatar

Porn for everyone, in moderation of course……… Ditto @Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard

shrubbery's avatar

“she was raised in a generation of girls for whom it was seen as hip and liberated to enjoy watching sex”…well I’d like to know where the hell she was raised because I’m in the same generation and I’d certainly be judged if I was caught watching porn, not called “hip”, a word which isn’t really used in this generation either. Which, I think, is a bad thing. I don’t think it’s fair that it’s okay and goes without saying that men can watch porn, but women get judged and have to feel guilty about it.

We say it’s degrading for women to be in porn… but isn’t it just as degrading for a man to be in porn? I don’t think it’s necessarily degrading, as far as I’m aware the industry is much better than it used to be and a lot of people are in porn because they want to be, not because they have to be just to get food on the table or whatever. If we can make all porn that way, people wanting to be there doing their job (and it’s legal), then I think it’s okay for anyone and everyone to watch porn.

As long as it doesn’t become an addiction and start to interfere with your everyday life. But I’m not sure why it’s such a big deal that women become addicted, men become addicted all the time. People get addicted to things that make them feel good. Simple as that. Women shouldn’t be embarrassed to get help.

tedd's avatar

As with anything, too much of it is probably bad for you. If you get legitimately “addicted” to porn, that would be bad. In moderation, and even in excess for certain periods of time, there’s nothing wrong with it.

A lot of professional porn does have women in a more submissive role, but there’s also boatloads of amateur stuff out there that is far more realistic. Not to mention they have professional “fetish’s” where the roles are reversed.

It is acceptable for both men and women to watch porno. In fact doing so together can be rather fun.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Did anyone else think this article is an absolute crock of shit? Give me a break.

Seaofclouds's avatar

Honestly, after reading the article, I think the issues with some of the woman in the article are about more than just the porn addiction. Yes, it is interfering with their life and a problem, but their negative feelings about it and guilt about it because of it “degrading women” seems to be a bit of a role conflict issue or something on those lines. So they have several issues to deal with when trying to get past the addiction.

Is it ok for people to use porn? ** Yes, absolutely. As long as the people participating in the porn are doing it on their own free will and as long as it’s legal content.

Is it ok for men and not women or women and not men? ** No. It’s okay for both! Anyone who says it isn’t is full of shit.

Does the level of acceptability rely on certain factors? Amount of time spent? Type of porn? ** Yes. As @Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard said, as long as it’s legal and the time spent on it is not interfering with the person’s normal day to day life, it’s not a problem. Cross those lines and there is a problem.

What do you think about the article? ** It was an interesting read, but it really seemed to only focus on a negative side of things which was a bit misleading from the title. With the title, I was expecting it to be more about why woman are either watching more porn or being more open about watching porn. With the title and then the actual article focusing only on addiction issues and feelings of guilt, it makes it seem like women are only watching it because they are getting addicted to it and that is not the case at all. The article definitely has a very negative spin on it, which I don’t completely agree with. Yes addiction is possible, but addiction is possible for many things we encounter in life. Almost all of those things people commonly become addicted to can be healthily enjoyed in moderation. It just depends on the person. Some people are more prone to addictions than others.

mazingerz88's avatar

The article is making a mountain out of a molehill. I think I did not see that one word that really defines what this is all about, why porn watching is happening, whether its light or hardcore. PLEASURE. Yep. Personally I believe life is too short for humans not to get it as much as possible. Especially women who for some strange reason loses their sexual hormones at some point unlike men. Unfair! There are a few reasons porn watching must be stopped though.

1. When it leads you to have sex carelessly with strangers, STOP!
2. When it keeps you from living your normal life, STOP!

Also as this industry becomes more profitable I hope it gets regulated enough that no underage women or men becomes exploited. Otherwise keep fucking and enjoy watching!

wundayatta's avatar

I’ve heard a few porn addicts talk about what made them worried about what they were doing. It seems they started doing porn instead of things like joining the family for dinner or taking care of kids or going out. It becomes obsessive.

Then their spouse says they have to split up. That’s what brings most people to sex addiction meetings. Men and women.

It’s not a problem until you decide it is a problem. That’s when you go seek help. In a way, it works similarly to other addictions. Orgasms do provide a hit of happy neurotransmitters to your brain. If you want it more and more and then if you live to get that hit—it could well be a problem. I’ve known guys who have sat in front of the computer all day long, continuously masturbating because, of course, by that time they can’t cum any more. These are unhappy men.

I’m not sure that calling it an “addiction” is exactly right. There’s no substance to get addicted to. The craving is psychological. But you don’t get physical withdrawal symptoms if you stop. You do get psychological withdrawal symptoms.

At the SLAA meetings, they add a thirteenth step—don’t get involved with a fellow addict. I have to wonder if this is good advice. I think the reason that people get into these behavioral addictions is that their emotional souls are not being fed. In other words, they don’t feel any love. Maybe they can’t feel it.

Now there could easily be some of those one-night stands that many addicts are trying to get away from. But I think what will really “cure” people is having a fantastic love relationship. Although, some people think those things are addictions, too.

SLAA? Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous. If you believe these things are addictions, then it can become very difficult to see what is healthy and what is unhealthy behavior. How can love be unhealthy? I guess when you throw it around somewhat indiscriminately, falling in love with lots of inappropriate people.

Which begs the question—who gets to decide if you love an inappropriate person? In the end, I think the only standard that makes sense is that the person has to decide the behavior is unhealthy. Whether it’s porn or sex or love, I don’t think there are different absolute standards so much as there are different individual standards. No one else has any real standing to tell someone they have an addiction. That’s because there is no standard.

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