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Why do we have Wars? Why cant we all live together with peace and love?

Asked by krrazypassions (1355points) May 9th, 2011

Humans have regularly fought wars since as long as we know! It may be the case that many of the major changes of civilizations have occurred due to wars, is it really necessary for wars to exist in the story of humans? Why cant we just help each other and live in friendly conditions? Cant developments and progress happen faster in the absence of wars? Don’t we have a better alternative to solve problems?

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Pele's avatar

It all boils down to the size of ones penis.

Pele's avatar

@krrazypassions Not just penis size, but it also has alot to do with power and money and security.

ucme's avatar

That would be nice wouldn’t it. Unfortunately not everyone is programmed like a hybrid version of the Partridge & Osmond families.

King_Pariah's avatar

Because my god is better than your god, I covet what you hoard, and you’re a subspecies of humans that only deserves to lick the heel of my boot before my machete comes crashing through your skull.

wundayatta's avatar

There aren’t enough resources for all of us—or so we perceive. If you are used to a standard of living, you want to protect it. Someone else may want it and figures the fastest way to get it is to take yours.

Problem solving? Throughout most of history, everyone has seen it as pretty much a zero-sum game. Either you win or I win, but we can’t share. Lately, with the development of super destructive weapons, the nuclear nations have an incentive to negotiate instead of letting things get to war.

The other battles are about some grievance one nation has with another and the two can’t talk it out. When that happens, military action is the final resort. I always say war is the failure of diplomacy. I still agree with myself.

Blackberry's avatar

Freaking libs…..Lol…....Just kidding. I was going to say something along the lines of what @wundayatta stated. There’s not enough resources to go around. Everyone is trying to keep what they have intact and survive.

Pele's avatar

@ucme I’m sure in some demention it’s all peachy like the Osmond family

Blackberry's avatar

@Pele That avatar is hilarious.

_zen_'s avatar

And I’d like to win the lottery and a side of lemon pie please.

Pele's avatar

@zen Thats easier than world peace.

krrazypassions's avatar

@wundayatta @Blackberry, and to everyone else
hmmm.. “EVERYONE is trying to keep what they have intact and survive”- so i guess wars between humans will end only if we change the definition of ‘everyone’ – like when Aliens invade us.

_zen_'s avatar

I’m on the aliens’ side – just saying.

Blackberry's avatar

@krrazypassions Alien invasions are the least of our problems…....

krrazypassions's avatar

@Blackberry What i meant to point out was that we humans perceive ourselves as belonging to certain nation or religion and so by ‘us’ we consider our own religious or national community- An Alien invasion will force us to change our perception of us from particular religion/nation to ‘Humans’ , thereby uniting us!

ucme's avatar

@Pele Yeah, I believe it’s called the planet senility, sounds truly hellish!

Pele's avatar

What?! @krrazypassions, Aliens just want to eat our brains. Listen to Stephen Hawking warnings. “Alien life forms are not like Marilyn Monroe”! lol

krrazypassions's avatar

i would also like to add that chances of an alien invasion are extremely low. WE ARE LIVING IN SUCH A CRAZILY HUMUNGOUS UNIVERSE THAT IT FEELS LIKE A GRAND PLAN TO KEEP US SAFE FROM “BRAIN EATING” ALIENS- OR A CONSPIRACY TO KEEP INTELLIGENT LIFEFORMS FROM TWO DIFFERENT STAR SYSTEMS FROM COMMUNICATING!- whichever way you prefer thinking.

krrazypassions's avatar

So guys, if there is at all any solution to avoid inter-human wars and bring about global unity and understanding, ITS SOMETHING OTHER THAN AN ALIEN INVASION!!!!

YoBob's avatar

The short answer is that it all boils down to the fact that there are such things as irreconcilable differences that both sides consider important enough to fight for.

LuckyGuy's avatar

The world is not getting bigger but the population keeps increasing. The general trend means at some point there must be competition.
There are pertubations to the curve that delay conflict. medical advances, science, etc.
There are those that accelerate it: language differences, religion, nationalism, misunderstandings.
But the trend is there.

krrazypassions's avatar

@YoBob Wouldn’t sensible thinking boil down everything to the fact that peace and love are the best things to live for?

krrazypassions's avatar

@worriedguy therefore, isn’t it true that we need to spend time thinking about and doing “more such things that avoid conflict” and “lesser of things that accelerate it”?
I mean- We humans have intelligence! We can always have a better solution that War! C’mon!!

Skaggfacemutt's avatar

@worriedguy Your observation is based on a world full of decent, reasonable people. Sorry, that will never happen as long as there are politicians, greed, hate and mentally unbalanced zealots – which means that it will never happen!

wundayatta's avatar

@krrazypassions You are correct about unifying people. You should take heart because it is happening. More and more nations are joining cooperative organizations. More and more are kicking out their tyrants and trying to move to democracy of some kind or another. Cooperation is breaking out all over, although most people focus on the wars, so they can’t see it. Cooperation, however, is a good thing because without cooperation on an international level, and much more comprehensive than we have now, humans are going to suffer a lot more.

Of course, there are those who don’t see it this way. Some think that cooperation on an international level is really the institution of a New World Order, where democracy is a sham and the oligarchs control everything, and become rich off the rest of us. So paranoia about a central authority is a big fear that keeps cooperation from happening.

The other thing is people who still have ideologies of us vs them. They refuse to cooperate with others because they are heathen or worst—infidels. They won’t cooperate with anyone who doesn’t believe as they do.

Very soon, we will no longer be able to afford these kinds of attitudes. They will cause many wars because these people are unwilling to share unless the others share their ideology. We need to, as you put it, “change our definition of everyone.” We need to understand that the differences we try to put between us are not helpful. We need compassion and care. Our world is wealthy enough. All we need to do is distribute our knowledge and resources better.

majorrich's avatar

Peace, War Love,Hate these are words that are written on the opposite sides of a very thin piece of paper. War and conflict will always be a part of human nature because it is human nature to want more to provide for his family, or clan, or country. On the other side of that piece of paper is the human nature to protect his family, clan or country. The heck of it all is, you gotta help your friends, and you need what someone is selling you. That’s how wars get escalated.
Suppose a clan believed that there is a finite amount of happiness in the world. Then famine or disaster hit their home. They look on CNN and see their neighboring country is having a record crop or is flourishing for one reason or another. That would not be fair because they have happiness that we should have. We must go and get some so we can be happy too. So, off they go to attack their neighbor to take away some of that happiness and get it back in the happiness pool in the hopes of raising the amount of happiness they have. Of course this is a ridiculous example, and illogical, but humans are not logical beings and hoping that reason and logic will change nature is equally ridiculous. As long as man has the instinct to provide and protect, there will never be peace.

krrazypassions's avatar

I believe we should have a Renaissance of the 21st century to globally modify our perception of ourselves and of humanity and of life and of the entire creation itself.
Our tools(or weapons) in this revolution will include the following:-
Literature, Movies, Music

everephebe's avatar

Because some people suck.

King_Pariah's avatar

Actually, according projections, this world could sustain roughly 12 billion humans, the problem, however, lies with greedy hoarders, hence I covet what you hoard.

YoBob's avatar

@krrazypassions Sure, it would be great if we could all hold hands and sing kum-by-ya together. Problem is that there are sometimes very real irreconcilable differences regarding exactly how best to achieve peace, love, and inter-cosmic wisdom. Take the current world situation for example. You’ve got a group of radical fundamentalists who believe that a prophet came to earth around 1000 years and wrote what they believe to be the literal word of God with rules for how mankind should run their affairs, and one of the central cores of that “law” is an authoritarian theocratic system of governance under which anyone who does not subscribe to their belief system is an infidel and should either be converted or killed. On the other hand, you have several nations (aka. the Western world) who believe in religious freedom and secular constitutional democratic form of government.

The radical fundamentalist side believes in their religious mandate so much that they declared a holy war against what they term “The Great Satan”. The followers of said jihad believe in their cause so much that they are willing to strap on suicide vests and blow themselves up in high visibility public places (a practice known as terrorism)

OTOH, the folks in the western world so strongly believe that it is not OK to live under an authoritarian theocratic rule and as such are willing to use military force to defend the right to do so, and this includes taking action against countries that harbor terrorist activities. Further, they believe in human rights to the point that they feel justified in using military force to halt genocide and even help “grass roots” uprisings when they attempt to overthrow corrupt dictatorships.

Who is “right” depends largely on your point of view. But at the end of the day nobody really can say with absolute authority who is “right”. However, here in the real world each side is willing to defend their beliefs.

Bella59462's avatar

Well, It’s been so long that people are raised differently than others, I think there are wars in the world because others are rude and many are kind, but it all depends on how the person was raised.

Plucky's avatar

I find religion and greed to be the ultimate reasons underlining war.

jasonwiese55's avatar

@PluckyDog Make that just greed. Greed underlies religion’s role in perpetuating violence.

King_Pariah's avatar

@krrazypassions a 21st Century Renaissance sounds great and all but there’s no way in hell you could alter the perceptions of everyone. Personally, I feel that when something truly terrible occurs that has effects worldwide, that’s when man gets even close to being truly noble and the closest we can ever get to being united, otherwise you’ll always meet resistance. Also, complete non violence is so… unnatural.

jellyfish3232's avatar

The key word here is “human”.

woodcutter's avatar

No. It will never happen because it can’t. It is only a pot smokers’ pipe dream.

incendiary_dan's avatar

Large-scale interpersonal warfare exists as a result of ways of life that use more resources than naturally regenerate in an area, i.e. they are not sustainable. These tend to breed belief systems which tell their people, one way or another, that they’re somehow special or chosen (Judeo-Christian belief in being “God’s Chosen” or American Exceptionalism). Cultures that don’t have these sorts of things have historically kept their fighting on smaller, more personal scales.

Hibernate's avatar

If we’d live and peace all together and all we’d have the same thoughts then the world would be something close to an utopia.

Wars start when someone gets really bored.
[ not to mention that most wars are held based on religious believes. ]

lawkes's avatar

Because….

“Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group, and that throughout history, no tyrant ever rose to power except on the claim of representing the common good.”—Ayn Rand

“On the other hand the application of the basic ideas of collectivism cannot result in anything but social disintegration and the perpetuation of armed conflict. It is true that every variety of collectivism promises eternal peace starting with the day of its own decisive victory and the final overthrow and extermination of all other ideologies and their supporters. ... As soon as a faction has succeeded in winning the support of the majority of citizens and thereby attained control of the government machine, it is free to deny to the minority all those democratic rights by means of which it itself has previously carried on its own struggle for supremacy.”—Ludwig von Mises

krrazypassions's avatar

In 1940, while Hitler was going strong in his “activities”, a guy called Charlie Chaplin attempted a parody on him- “The Great Dictator”.
At that time, Charlie felt that Hitler was quite a brilliant actor, while Hitler felt that Charlie was a Jew.

Hannah, who is referred to in the end of the speech, is the girlfriend of the barber

Both the dictator “Adenoid Hynkel” and a commoner Jewish barber were played by Charlie Chaplin. In the end, the dictator is mistaken for some crazy hunter and the barber gets to play the Dictator, and in his ending public speech he speaks the following-


I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone if possible; Jew, Gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone, and the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way. Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The airplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say, do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish. Soldiers! Don’t give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you; who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel! Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men – machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines, you are not cattle, you are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate; the unloved and the unnatural. Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it is written that the kingdom of God is within man, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power. Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill that promise. They never will! Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people. Now let us fight to fulfill that promise. Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness. Soldiers, in the name of democracy, let us all unite! Hannah, can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up Hannah! The clouds are lifting! The sun is breaking through! We are coming out of the darkness into the light! We are coming into a new world; a kindlier world, where men will rise above their hate, their greed, and brutality. Look up, Hannah! The soul of man has been given wings and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow! Into the light of hope, into the future! The glorious future, that belongs to you, to me and to all of us. Look up, Hannah. Look up!

mattbrowne's avatar

You want humanity to get rid of wars?

Think big, start small.

Stop using aggressive language. How can this be done? Visit the Center for Nonviolent Communication at http://www.cnvc.org for example and get started tomorrow.

Why do we still have wars?

Because we still haven’t mastered nonviolent communication.

Bella59462's avatar

If only the wars could all go away, :(

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