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If this world is an illusion (The Matrix) and not real, then what about hunger?

Asked by niki (714points) May 20th, 2011

Hunger is very real, isn’t it?
Or at least that’s what the skeptics, realists, and scoffers would usually say to debunk all what they said as “philosophy mumbo jumbo BS” like The Matrix?
Then how can I rationally counter this statement?

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everephebe's avatar

Well reality is somewhat of an illusion because of the way we perceive only part of it, but… Life does seem to require energy. Not sure what you’re getting at.

iamthemob's avatar

The problem with a matrix-style false reality and the hunger argument was, I believe, addressed by Mouse in the original Matrix when he, in the “real world” refers to something as tasting like Tasty Wheat from the Matrix. He goes on to say that of course, how can he say that he knows what Tasty Wheat tasted like because all he knew was what the machines had programed. And maybe what they thought it tasted like was really like chicken – and maybe when they didn’t know what something tasted like they just made it taste like chicken which is why so many things taste like chicken. ;-)

But to make it less goofy – if the world is an illusion, than any contrary argument based on experiences we have right now are already false. Hunger is not real because we experience it here. The only way that it can be real is in the sense that everyone constructs their own personal reality…which, in the end, isn’t really a functionally different structure than a Matrix world (i.e., both realities are wholly subjectively created).

Or maybe just ask them if death is real.

krrazypassions's avatar

“Life is a dream… What’s fake in a dream- and what’s real!?” (translated from an old Hindi song “Zindagi Khwaab Hai”)

Illusionary theories are just a figment of our imagination. We all like to think “what if”. We are creative beings after all! Whether it is the simulation/virtual reality in Matrix, or very lucid dreams in Inception or any other alternate reality concepts(whether in stories, movies or in quantum theory) are all created by the endless imaginative power of the human mind!

If we assume that the world is an illusion, then everything we experience in it is an illusion too! Whether it is feeling inspired or depressed, feeling satisfied or hungry. The world that we live in has so many complex things. The sheer number of living things, the variety of strong emotions that we feel, our memory, our creative power, the ability to dream. So, how’s hunger unique? If someone/something could build so many complex things in this illusion, then ‘creating’ hunger wouldn’t be much of task, right?

Interpreting the “world is an illusion” in real life (i.e. out of fiction) might be helpful, perhaps, only to pursue spiritual interests. “There may be other higher dimensions where the supernatural and metaphysical exists- The Kingdom of Souls or something. Where there is eternal peace and joy and all are one and all there is is nothing” (its sounds like the singularity before the Big Bang).

But really, what we need to think is ”Life is real and a gift, I am lucky to be alive, I am a miracle, a living being created out of non-living elements.” So, take delight in a number of awesome “worldly” things. Real world is more miraculous than any fiction/theories! Celebrate life!

Plucky's avatar

How do you know hunger is real? Hunger could be an illusion too. If you are living in an illusion, then everything in that illusion is um an illusion.

kess's avatar

This Life is an illusion and the eventuality of all illusion is that it fades in the face of reality…
So your reality comes when this reality fades,

Hunger is a reality within the illusion but it is merely part of the illusion and fades along with it…..

Blackberry's avatar

The world is real, problem solved.

glenjamin's avatar

Why target hunger? why not thirst, or the necessity to breathe? In a matrix type world anything and everything can be an illusion. But that is science fiction.

wundayatta's avatar

The world is an illusion because most of it is created by us. When we see things, our brains mostly scan some small percentage of what may be out there, and then our brains, without us being aware of it, fills in the rest.

So the world that we perceive is largely what we think it is instead of what it really is. What we perceive is not really there because most of it is what we create.

Of course, that’s good enough in most cases. It works. We don’t need to have very accurate perceptions.

The implication of this is that we can manipulate what we perceive to some degree if we train ourselves to do that. So, in the case of pain, some people have the capability of perceiving it not as pain. You could do the same thing with hunger. If you are skilled enough, you can perceive whatever you want to. You can also act as if the perceptions are real, and be unaware you are doing so. And who is to say you are hungry? Maybe you really aren’t, but you’ve decided to perceive the world that way?

flutherother's avatar

The world we experience is all illusion, but what else is there? I’m pretty sure we are all talking about the idea of hunger anyway. The actual experience of real hunger would be quite different.

markylit's avatar

If this world is an illusion like the one created in Matrix, then hunger is just another malware trying to disrupt the illusion to turn it into a reality.

ddude1116's avatar

It’s an unscripted program to further instill doubt into the minds of us unwitting Matrixites.

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