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How black and white are your Fluther impressions?

Asked by Blueroses (18256points) June 1st, 2011

Inspired by HungryGuy’s question but more into the social aspect of it.

If someone really pisses you off on a topic, will you ignore that person on a different thread? Do you make up your mind that his/her opinions will always be wrong?

Have you ever been so anti one jelly that you would go through a thread making sure that every respondent has at least 1 GA except for that one person?

That seems really petty, unless they disagree with me, then screw ‘em. But what I’m really asking is can you disengage your emotional response when you move from question to question and consider each response on its own merit?

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Bellatrix's avatar

I read the posts and give GAs/GQs based on the content. I might not agree with someone on some issues. In fact, I might disagree with them totally on some issues. Doesn’t mean they don’t have valid arguments or ideas on other topics though. I am generally not a spiteful person and keeping grudges is so unhealthy. Can’t be bothered with it really.

JilltheTooth's avatar

Mostly, yes I can disengage, although I might have a somewhat jaundiced eye toward someone with whom I’ve had a nasty exchange. Big picture though, there are a few Jellies with whom I absolutely will not engage, as they are absolutely predictable in their pissy-tude. I’m pretty sure, however, that they don’t care or even notice that I’m not responding to them.

marinelife's avatar

It depends. If there are people whose responses I have a history of not liking, I tend to skip over reading them (so if they have miraculously reformed I wouldn’t know it).

HungryGuy's avatar

@Blueroses – I totally agree with you and try to be impartial when giving lurve whether or not I agree with someone on a given issue. If they make a strong case for their argument or provide valuable insight to the debate, even if I disagree, I’ll give ‘em a GA. But, OTOH, if someone has been a totally abusive obnoxious @$$hole to me (and others), I’m only human and am unlikely to be overly generous with the lurve to that person in the future. Sorry.

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tinyfaery's avatar

There is only one jelly on my shit list. I do everything I can to pretend he doesn’t exist.

josie's avatar

It is tough for me to talk since I seem to piss lots of people off here, even though I swear most of the time I just want to get something started.

Having said it, I have only really gotten into it with two jellies. One has disappeared, and I sort of made a kind of peace (on my end anyway) with the other.

But most of the time, I think Fluther is sort of like having a cookout and inviting all of my friends over. They are a very diverse and curious crowd ranging from instruments of death to artists. Lots of ways of looking at the world. But all in all, I do not avoid anybody or go out of my way to pick a fight. Not that I try to avoid people or that I am afraid to pick a fight. But we all get a little older, and sometimes it just does not seem worth the effort anymore.

So the answer to the question is, I do not hold anybody on Fluther to task because of a particular question or a comment. I will say that some jellies are VERY predictably condescending and that is a little annoying. But why should I give a shit?

rebbel's avatar

In the past i found myself doing that, trying to ignore someone’s words just because i didn’t like his/her answers/opinions.
Until i found myself chuckling at some funny remarks only to discover that it was by Mr/Mrs To-Be-Ignored…..
So i quit doing the ignore thing.
For the rest i am with @Bellatrix .

Porifera's avatar

I am new here and can’t remember the names of all the jellies who have disagreed with me —or of those who have agreed with me for that matter—. However, one of two come to mind, not because they have actually disagreed with me, but because of the way they did it. In any case, I read opinions and ideas for their content not for who wrote them.

MilkyWay's avatar

Nope, I never do that. All the recent political questions I’ve asked I’ve always given GA’s to everyone who answered. They took the time and effort to put their point across and answer my question so I’ll always give them a GA, even if I don’t agree with them or if I find they’re post offensive to my own personal beliefs. I’m a pretty open-minded person and I don’t give a damn about what other people think of my beliefs either.
In my opinion, just because someone has offended me or upset me through portraying their own personal beliefs doesn’t mean that that person (jelly) is an ass. It just simply means myself and them have a different way of thinking and don’t agree on something.
Who’s to say we haven’t got a lot in common, or that they share some values that I do too?
I always respect other people’s views as much as my own, and I don’t ever single someone out due to their behaviour with me.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Fact from fiction, truth from diction. I have not done Any Jelly like that even those who insulted me or reduced me to some blooming idiot because of my logic, thoughts or religion, even if they put me on a so-called ”Nutter list”. I know by my larve I am as about as welcomed as a bucket full of Irukandji would be in the pool you are swimming in, but that is OK, I will still be me and be the same when the Sun rises in the morning. To sit around seeking them out in any thread I happen on and trying to heckle them will show they had a stronger argument than mine because of I had a stronger argument I would not feel the need to try to ”even” things up in another thread. There are some Jellies (and I don’t need to mention names because I think they know who they are) that I always seem at odds with (more because they see it is that than I) but I still welcome their comments even though I know I more than likely won’t agree. Their opinions are their opinions, and it is educational to see how they process their logic and reasoning.

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Berserker's avatar

If someone is being purposely mean to me or flames or insults me, I do tend to avoid further interaction with them. But I won’t GA everyone but them on every thread…what is this, AnswerBag lol?
I certainly cannot expect every single person to agree with me constantly, that’s impossible. If I wanted that, I’d be constantly angry. And if everyone did agree with me, how the hell would I learn anything lol?

Kardamom's avatar

Sometimes a jellly will say something that is so far off base that I can’t figure out how they ever came to their particular conclusion. But then in the next thread they might say something that is so funny that I spit milk. And in the next thread they might say something really poignant. Those kinds of jellies, that are all over the map, are sometimes intriguing and sometimes really irritating. So if I see something good, I’ll give it a GA, but I might re-read it a few times, just to make sure that I was reading it correctly.

Jude's avatar

I give GA and GQ when they’re..good.

And I am going to do my best to get along with everyone. It’s not worth it to bicker anymore. I don’t want to be like that.

Oh, and if I didn’t give you or others GA, it was not because I don’t care for you. For the most part, I stop following questions (including mine) after a few days. So, chances are I didn’t see it.

I am not perfect and I am trying (if this question is directed at me).

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

If I ignored everyone that I have disagreed with at some point, I wouldn’t have anyone to talk to. =0)

Berserker's avatar

@WillWorkForChocolate Indeed. How lonely we’d all be without opposition. All hail chaos lol!

filmfann's avatar

Did someone call me?

I often give lurve to people I don’t agree with, if they have put forward a reasonable argument.
Moving from question to question, I almost never figure in the baggage they are carrying. I don’t think that would be fair.

chyna's avatar

There are a couple of jellies that I don’t even read their responses at all, but if they have responded to one of my few questions, I give them a GA, without reading their post. Petty? Yes. I’m guilty of being petty.

MyNewtBoobs's avatar

@Blueroses I get the idea of moving to a different thread with a fresh start, but then shouldn’t that go for agreement, lurve, and like as well, not just disagreement? Especially since so much of Fluther seems geared towards getting to know each jelly as people, overall, not just having random jellies you don’t know answering things. For example, I think very highly of @Jeruba’s grasp of English, so if I see her saying that something is grammatically incorrect for x,y, and z reasons, I trust her on that. Should we not also build up those opinions in terms of figuring out if someone is trustworthy, funny, mean, etc? It seems inconsistent to encourage that we build long-term opinions of each other only when they’re positive opinions.

The rest of my answer is exactly the same as @JilltheTooth‘s . What on this thread caused so many flame-bait removals?

SavoirFaire's avatar

“Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.”
—Buddha

I’ve given at least one GA to every jelly who might consider me a persistent interlocutor. If someone writes a GA, they get a GA. And everyone gets a GA from me on party threads regardless of past history. In fact, the latter policy reinforces the former: if you’re all going to get all of my lurve anyway, why bother holding out when it’s deserved?

As for disregarding someone’s answers on one subject just because I think they are completely and obviously wrong about some other subject, this is something I learned not to do time and time again as an undergraduate in philosophy. I’d spend two weeks writing a paper with the goal of completely destroying someone’s argument in one class only to write a paper defending a different argument from that same person in another class. Even Immanuel Kant isn’t wrong about everything.

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Sunny2's avatar

I think you get some definite impressions of people here and I tend to ignore those i think are phonies. Haven’t found a lot and it shouldn’t matter because you can be anyone you like here, but I do react to people I think are making stuff up for an effect. I’ll have to ponder that for a bit and decide how I’m going to handle my negative feelings and how it will affect my giving GA’s

roundsquare's avatar

I hardly even notice who I am GA’ing until I get around to responding to them. Even so, I forget who is who from question to question with very few exceptions.

_zen_'s avatar

There are a couple of people I ignore – just as I would in real life. I just can’t be bothered with what they ask/write. Of course, while reading a thread – I won’t skip over them. Lurve I don’t care about – but I have decided that because others do – and we max out at 100 each anyways – I just lurve everything all the time when I think about it. From my home pc, which is where I usually write from, it’s easy and doesn’t take any time at all to GQ or GA. I hate seeing anyone with zero lurve on his post – especially noobs. It’s a little sad to see a zero lurve score – so I’ll always GA it – regardless of who it is.

Questions are hard to ask. I should know – I’ve asked over a thousand – and had another thousand modded probably. So I GQ everything – just because they actually asked it – it is well-deserved – and I still don’t see why it’s only 3 lurve as opposed to the answer getting 5 – it’s easy to post an answer – it could be just a blank post and get lurve. Maybe it’s a hold-over from the old days – when everything was serious, more or less, and thus answers were important – like in today’s General section. With Social, it is far harder to ask a question than to write an answer, right?

ucme's avatar

Can’t be arsed with petty minded infantile squabbling.
Unless you happen to be a world class head of a dick (male or female) i’m good with most of ya!

Haleth's avatar

Well, this site is for debate. Many times I’ve found myself arguing with a jelly in one thread and agreeing wholeheartedly with them in the next one.

Blueroses's avatar

Thank you everybody for taking the time to answer (you all get GAs from me). I didn’t see the quips that were removed and have no idea what they said but I do want to make sure you all know this Q is not directed at any person.

It was, in fact inspired by one jelly who has an ability to leave behind one volatile discussion and interact with a fresh slate on a new thread. I admire that trait and it made me wonder if the opposite might also happen. It isn’t something I’ve actually noticed. It’s hypothetical.

OpryLeigh's avatar

There is no one who here who I avoid on every thread and there is no one that I won’t give lurve to even if I think they deserve it. I give lurve based on the quality of there answer/question and not just because they have answered/asked a question (I feel that my lurve doesn’t count if I hand it out too willy-nilly).

There are a few people that I think “here we go again” (with a slight eye roll!) when they answer/ask certain types of questions but I don’t dislike anyone because of that and it doesn’t mean I will avoid them on other questions.

incendiary_dan's avatar

I give credit where credit is due, and even if someone behaves atrociously on another thread or disagrees with me, I give good answers a GA.

Kayak8's avatar

I am pretty open minded . . . if it is a GA, then it is a GA regardless of who typed it.

Kardamom's avatar

Have any of you ever read a few threads by the same jelly, and there’s a bunch of typos and “youthful” language being used so you assume that the jelly is a teenager, then you later read a thread that is seemingly by the same person (same name and same avatar), but suddenly the whole tone is different, the spelling has improved and the conversation seems more, I don’t know, adult?

Do you think that the kiddies sometimes break into their parent’s Fluther accounts and just go to town? That kind of freaks me out, because then I really feel like I don’t know who I’m dealing with, and sometimes think that I may or may no be dealing with a troll. Anybody else ever notice this? Or am I just going mad?

Berserker's avatar

…you’re not talking about me, are you? XD

If that did happen, I would hope that the person to who that account belongs to would have some explanation for the previous, more childish stuff, instead of acting like nothing happened.

I sometimes notice a few, weird Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde type deals, but if I get to know the person a bit, it quickly seems to be part of them and you get used to it. Maybe I’m not supposed to, but I can’t really put anything in stone when it comes to online interaction.

Kardamom's avatar

@Symbeline LOL, no it certainly wasn’t you. I always thought you were a mature, awesome adult! And you know how to write. : )

incendiary_dan's avatar

@Kardamom Sounds like the difference of before and after coffee. I am quite likely an example of this.

Seek's avatar

I love the people that disagree with me.

@john65pennington and I disagree on nearly everything, and we’ve been e-friends since the Answerbag days.

It’s really easy to like and respect someone that feeds your ego. It means a lot more to earn respect from someone who doesn’t.

_zen_'s avatar

@Kardamom You mean me, right?

filmfann's avatar

@zen fer rizzle.

syz's avatar

There are members here who seem like kindred spirits, there are some who hold very different views from me and argue them eloquently, there are members who are just annoying or smart-assed or immature, and there are a very few that I find hateful and/or bigoted and that I ignore just as hard as I can.

Kardamom's avatar

@incendiary_dan and @zen No it wasn’t either of you two either. LOL.

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Kardamom's avatar

@noelleptc No it wasn’t you either. There were a couple of them, but they don’t converse regularly, as in, not as often as most of you guys on this thread. But when they do, sometimes it sounds like a 13 year old kid, and other times it sounds like a 30 year old.

It’s one of those situations where I was thinking last month they said something that made me think I was dealing with a junior high school student and this week the same avatar is saying something that sounds like an adult, mostly because of the change in language and spelling, and over all quality of the writing, but also the questions didn’t seem related at all. I suppose that some kids do use their parent’s avatars, either with the parent’s permission or without it.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I occasionally lapse into “teen speak” just for the fun of it or if the question I’m posting on seems to warrant it. I have a really odd, goofball sense of humor. If I’m writing a serious comment, I’m serious about it, if not, then I like having fun using txtspk and “hells ya!” and “oh noes!” and other silly things. Perhaps I have a split personality when it comes to leaving comments, LOL.

HungryGuy's avatar

While txtng, I use shrtcts n sound like a teen, simply because it makes sense (as long as u cn understand me) on those tiny keypads…

Kardamom's avatar

Don’t worry, it’s not @WillWorkForChocolate or @HungryGuy either, or anyone else on this particular thread. : )

jonsblond's avatar

It’s me. I swear it isn’t my sons. They are very intelligent. I blame drunk fluthering. :P

Kardamom's avatar

@jonsblond Nope, it’s not you either. I actually haven’t seen either of these avatars around for a few weeks, one of them even longer.

Blueroses's avatar

I know one of the type you mean @Kardamom. Comes off very juvenile on some topics, even in PM, and then knowledgeable and 20 years older on other subjects.

MilkyWay's avatar

@Blueroses Gee, that’s sounds like me… : /

HungryGuy's avatar

@jonsblond – Drunk Fluthering… I’m guilty of that every now and then :-p

Berserker's avatar

Me, too. :D

Blueroses's avatar

no, no… queen-ster and my darling Sym. Neither of you.
I might check with @Kardamom to see if we’re thinking of one of the same.

Berserker's avatar

No I mean, drunk fluthering. ’‘points to self’’ :D

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Only138's avatar

I must admit….I’ve also drunk fluthered (On occasion). LOL

Bellatrix's avatar

Me too! Drunk fluthering is fun.

josie's avatar

I fluthered a couple of times after I had been “partying”. I have to say that I hate reading what I typed. Pretty embarrassing. I do not do that any more.

Berserker's avatar

I remember back on Answerbag, when I was all drunk and posting. The next day I was temporarily banned. I don’t even remember why lol.

Only138's avatar

I was usually hated the next day after a drunk answerbag night. LOL

Berserker's avatar

It’s not too hard being hated on that site lol.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Or this one….... snicker snicker

Blueroses's avatar

@Symbeline Maybe you called a religious text a creepy monster with teeth, posing as a book? :-D

Berserker's avatar

@Blueroses…pretty good analogy, actually. :D

Blueroses's avatar

@Symbeline I admired the analogy when I first read it. You’re a clever girl.

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