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JLeslie's avatar

What's worse atheists being critical of your religion, or theists?

Asked by JLeslie (65416points) September 16th, 2011

That Q about theists mocking atheists and vice versa got me thinking, it isn’t always the atheists who might mock religious beliefs. In fact sometimes the atheists are the ones defending them. Sometimes the Baptists are critical of the Catholics, and the Catholics of the Mormons, and the Mormons of the Muslims etc.

So, I was wondering from the theists point of view, is it easier to hear generalizations or criticism from other religious people, or even to have a in death religious discussion, because at least you both have God in common? Or, is it all the same?

This is not a Q to debate religious beliefs.

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MRSHINYSHOES's avatar

The worst is any one of the two who can’t respect the other for their beliefs, and who can’t act civil to each other when discussing their points of view.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

Neither of their criticisms mean that much to me.
If you are confident in your beliefs,no one can really have any effect on you.

filmfann's avatar

I am a Baptist, and while we don’t agree with the teachings of the Catholic Church, we are respectful of them.
I am really not critical of anyone who has faith, and it’s not because if they aren’t Baptist they’re gonnna BURN BURN BURN!
I actually have more respect for people of ANY faith, than atheists. Atheists just seem sad to me. They have abandoned any hope of God.

gailcalled's avatar

Or people like me who want to fix punctuation and correct “in death” to “in depth”.

choreplay's avatar

This is what I use as the standard. After being on fluther for a length of time I have categorized responses into three general group. Those that want to hear your opinion (independent of agreeing), those that want to proselytize you, and those that want to discredit you and throw you away. So it doesn’t matter if theist or atheist but it’s all in the other’s attitude and what their motive is.

AmWiser's avatar

Excuse me! I never comment or join in on atheist/theist/religious threads, but @gailcalled had me LMAO. I caught that faux pas too. Sorry @JLeslie.

JLeslie's avatar

I blame my iPad. Again!

AmWiser's avatar

@JLeslie As far as I’m concerned you are forgiven. But it’s still funny:)

Berserker's avatar

It’s a sick sad world and the game ain’t straight. No matter what one believes or worships or fucks or eats or doesn’t believe in or likes or thinks or says, the clubs are always ready to bash. In the grand scheme of things, I don’t think the material matters much rather than how it’s handled lol.
I don’t think any of it is worse than another, it all smells like shit to me lol.

I criticize too. I’m not saying I’m above it all. In fact, this post is supposed to prove the entire contrary lol.

AmWiser's avatar

@Symbeline If I answered this catagory of threads, I couldn’t have said it better. Thanx.;-)

Prosb's avatar

I had a friend once who said when talking with people of other faiths, and trying to each make their points known, it generally left her thinking no differently, and each going their own way with their own faith.
She said that when talking with atheists, they weren’t trying to sway your beliefs, so much as they were trying to get you to see a bigger picture than you were used to seeing.
It didn’t change her faith in the slightest either, she said it just seemed less hostile.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@filmfann LOL. I can’t believe you actually think that.

stardust's avatar

Anybody who feels the need to push their views on others are a pain in the neck.

tko7800's avatar

@filmfann What difference is there between an atheist and a person that worships a different god than you? Aren’t they both going to end up in hell anyway?

fizzbanger's avatar

@filmfann Why are atheists (or agnostics, I presume) sad? Is some kind of god the only thing that can make a person happy? You come across as kind of judgmental and elitist by saying you only respect certain people.

I think that if a person believes in something hard enough, criticisms from others, whether religious or not, shouldn’t matter.

JLeslie's avatar

Just to defend @filmfann for a second, he is one of the Christian Jellies who I look to for answers from Christians, because so many are afraid to answer. I appreciate his honesty on the Q.

FutureMemory's avatar

@JLeslie That doesn’t make what he said any less shitty.

JLeslie's avatar

@FutureMemory The question was asking religious people how they feel about it. I appreciate his answer, even though it does not exactly answer what I asked. I just was not looking to challenge people’s answers on this Q. I am fine with questions to clarify, but wanted people of faith to feel confident they could leave their thoughts without a big debate. If @filmfann wants to answer you I have no problem with it, I put the Q in social.

fizzbanger's avatar

Well, my participation in this thread is now finished :)

FutureMemory's avatar

Concerning my post above about Film’s comment: I have admittedly said much, MUCH worse about Christians. (If anyone researched my posts, I’m sure they’d find plenty of terms such as sad, crazy, insane, pathetic, ridiculous, embarrassing etc….in between the insults).

I’m trying to refrain though from this point on (on Fluther, that is), as it’s truly a losing battle, and will only serve to alienate people that I otherwise like very much.

ragingloli's avatar

Well, at the very worst, Atheists think you are a complete idiot.
Other competing Religionists on the other hand, will think you will go to hell/other equivalent to be tortured for ever and may even try to kill you and your family.

JLeslie's avatar

@ragingloli So, which is worse?

ragingloli's avatar

being called an idiot < being murdered

filmfann's avatar

I am sorry if my answer seemed elitist, or judgemental. I assure you I am not.
I simply answered the question as I felt it was asked, and spoke with my heart.
If I piss you off, I assure you I don’t mean to. (hey, that’s like what’s in my profile!)

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@filmfann Trust me, that kind of thing is nothing to get pissed off at. More like, shake your head.

choreplay's avatar

Why does @filmfann have to apologize but no one is blinking at the disparaging remarks @ragingloli just made?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@choreplay Nobody has to apologize. If someone does, that’s their prerogative.

smilingheart1's avatar

ALL of the bashing whether from theists, agnostics, atheists – it is all very sad and regrettable. Christian splintering is one of the worst blights that has ever entered planet earth in my view. In every case it always comes down to whether one is open or closed to exploring the light that is always shining. Each of us have to choose and we do have a finite amount of time in our lives to search, explore and conclude.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

The worse is when atheist mock people of religion, especially those under the Christian banner. It is not like when Christians say unflattering things about JW, or Mormons etc. (even though they shouldn’t, but it is OK to say what is true about them, even if unflattering) because there is a base on which to point out errors or doctrine that isn’t sound. There is also a standard to use. Atheists trying to talk on Spiritual matters often don’t know what they are talking about or the standard behind it. It would be like someone trying to talk measurements but have no concept of inches, and parts of inches, all they know is that they are on a ruler somewhere.

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