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How do I tighten mushroomed-out screws on my balisong (butterfly knife) ?

Asked by basheersubei (64points) December 27th, 2011

I have a fairly low-quality balisong trainer knife and its screws have become pretty loose now (after 2 months).

Aside from placing it on a flat piece of stone (or marble or metal) and carefully “hammering” the screws to tighten them up (which did not work for me), is there another way to do this?

It’s a trainer knife made by Ronin Gear. I am considering buying a decent one. But until I save some cash, I want to flip using this knife.

P.S. I can get by using this knife, but the loose screws just annoy me and I’m looking for a fix-up for it.

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CWOTUS's avatar

Welcome to Fluther.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t know what a balisong is, in the first place, but even more important (to me) is that I have no idea what “mushroomed-out” screws means, and I’ve been in construction and general mechanics for many years.

Photos would help (you can post to photobucket or other public area and give a link here), and a description or example of what you mean by “mushroomed-out” would be most helpful.

We try to be helpful, but contrary to some expectations we cannot read minds as a general rule.

basheersubei's avatar

Thanks for the quick response. I don’t know whether there is another name for “mushroomed-out” screws (I just say that because I saw other people in knife forums use it).

I don’t have a decent camera, but I have a link to the product’s image from a website called bladeplay. If you zoom in on the screws in the middle of the photo (where the blade meets the handles), you can see the “mushroomed-out” screws.

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CWOTUS's avatar

Okay. Understanding the principle of the knife, I know that the screws at the blade have to permit quick swiveling of the handle halves to either sheath or expose the blade. I’m still just guessing at “mushroomed-out”, but I suppose the screws no longer tighten “enough but not too much”, right?

I think if it were up to me then I wouldn’t even use screws in this application. I think I’d use a bushing and rivets. This would make for a permanent connection that would allow the swiveling action required. Tight bushings (in the handle holes) would stay stationary, and would allow a very slightly undersized (in diameter) rivet to enable the swivel action with metal-on-metal bearing so that the plastic of the handles won’t wear and “wallow out” (the technical term you were looking for) more than they have already. I think it’s not the screws that are wearing in your knife, but the plastic of the handles.

basheersubei's avatar

I think “rivets” is the correct word instead of “mushroomed-out screws”; the rivets cannot be tightened like screws. Sorry for the confusion. I doubt the handles are wearing out, as they are made of metal. So, I guess the question should be, how do I tighten rivets on my knife?

jerv's avatar

There is a way, but it is complicated to explain and I only have a few minutes. Stay tuned, and when I get home, I will try to explain though ;)

basheersubei's avatar

@jerv so, do I just lay it down and hammer the rivets tight, then use Loctite or something? What’s Loctite used for, anyways?

jerv's avatar

Sorry, busy week.

That is pretty much it, but you use a tapered or steel ball to swedge the rivet and make it bigger. The trick is to so it without punching the rivet out; make sure you have a solid backing or the rivet will just come out the other side.

LocTite is mainly used to keep screws from vibrating loose. There are other ways to use it, but I don’t think it would help here.

jamaljj's avatar

Next time, use some loctite. It’ll prevcent the screws from falling out. Here is a guide http://bestmachete.net/how-to-protect-your-knife-with-loctite-242/

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