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How can I stop using men and relationships to fill an empty part of me I don't know how to fill ?

Asked by partyrock (3870points) February 7th, 2012 from iPhone

Lately I’ve realized I have been using men, relationships, love, and sex to fill an empty part of me. I would like honest advice about this. I feel like there is always a constant emptiness and I want my other half. I long for a happy, healthy, long, stable relationship with a gentleman. All of the men and people in my life are very positive, intelligent, sweet, and kind. I’m not dating or seeing any assholes or jerks (except for that one guy who said I needed to lose 15 pounds, but that story has ended). I don’t know what I can do to get over this. I have a social life, great friends, great family, I guess I need a stronger sense of self and confidence. At this point I feel like I WANT to fall in love and I’m ready for it – but I know there are issues I need to work out. But at the same time I want to protect my heart from being hurt so I distance myself from people. I’m very safe and I’m not sleeping around. Having sex or dating a bunch of men grosses me out too.

I just feel desperately like I’m ready for it and I deserve it. I feel lonely and I hate feeling that way. I feel like all I want to do is get married and have kids. But I feel a strong emptiness since I don’t have these things. Can anyone give me advice?

Please no “Just see a proffessional! Or – See a therapist” comments… I’d like personal honest opinions about this.

I long for having a loving significant other in my life. I long for doing simple things with my love like going to the movies, the beach, encouraging each other, laughing, etc….. Yes I do all these things with my family and friends, it would be nice to do this with someone I was romantically in love with.

I sometimes think maybe I got too used to being with my ex, which I was with him for a year and a half. We broke up in Sept 2011, so maybe that’s why I think I need/want a similar relationship.

I think about making love with someone I love, I think about being a mother, I think about being pregnant and how I would raise my child, I think about how I would love to fall in love and be there for my partner, all the time….I’ve been horny a lot too for the past 3 months. I’m single now, and I have no idea what to do with myself.

I do have hobbies and I do keep busy, so no comments like “just keep busy or just do hobbies”... Thanks. Anyone asking about my family issues or patent issues, my family is great and both my patents were awesome growing up.

I don’t want to be hurt and put pressures on people for who I want them to be. I fall in love easily, I get attached easily. I don’t know what to do.

I get horny all the time and when I can’t have sex it makes me lonely and mad. But when I am making love, I get scared Im getting attached and u want a deep solid relationship. Someone help and give me some honest insight.

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51 Answers

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

The one you need to learn to love and trust is the one you see in the mirror.

partyrock's avatar

I think I want to be more level headed and logical. I have a friends with benefits situation now with a really really great guy. Im starting to get feelings for him, and I do not want to. I’m afraid of getting attached to him, and it not working out or him leaving me. I feel very very confused. I don’t want to be this way.

I want to be a strong independent woman and person.

I’m really emotional, romantic, maternal, and compassionate anyway. And now for the past months ive been really horny, lonely, and confused. But then again also there are days AND weeks where I feel I would much rather be single and happy to have freedom to be on my own.

I am very, very confused.

partyrock's avatar

@aidiron—I’ve been doing a lot of self help work and bettering myself. I’ve taken up lots of diverse activities and I do like the strong person I’m in the process of becoming… I have wonderful friends, family, I don’t do drugs or even drink, and I don’t sleep around or get involved with harmful people or reckless behavior. I’m trying to become more aware but it is really hard. I being myself down. I feel like I want to express my love through another person since I don’t really love myself.

I want the “other half” of me, and I want to know that I’ve been whole all along.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Why don’t you love yourself? That’s your core. You need to look at that. If I don’t like me, how can I expect someone else to like me?

partyrock's avatar

I’ve been trying really hard. Everyone in my life is great. I just don’t want to feel like I “NEED” a man or relationship to complete me.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Do you want to go to PM?

partyrock's avatar

I think it comes down to different past situations. And I’m learning to not use the past as an excuse for current behavior.

I think I do love myself, I realize qualities about myself, but I always feel like I can be “better”.

I have low self esteem, I’m aware of this. I don’t hate myself, but I know I can love myself more. And during this self- discovery time, I feel like I would really love to love someone too. Maybe I need to wake up ?

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

You need to be the one that is great. It flows from that.

partyrock's avatar

We can talk here or you can private message me, either is fine.

partyrock's avatar

And I do feel like I am in the process of being great, and I love myself for being in this position in which I am metamorphosing amd changing… I feel like I’m a very strong person for choosing to better myself, but, I don’t know…. I get really lonely and it’s very confusing.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Ok. I have to go for a bit. I’d like to see other’s ideas. Back in a bit.

partyrock's avatar

I think about love, sex, kids, babies, marriage, family, and more sex all the time. I don’t want to feel this way anymore. I’m obsessed with ideas in my head of falling in love and having a great relationship with someone.

partyrock's avatar

Adiron I’m gonna nap right now so I’ll be back too. I’d like to hear other peoples ideas as well.

bob_'s avatar

Vibrator?

partyrock's avatar

I’m horny all the time and I crave love, a stable relationship, and acceptance all the time. I want someone to motivate me so I can feel loved. I have a lot of friends and great family so I don’t know why I would need to fill this void. Or need love to feel loved ??

partyrock's avatar

Bob it’s more than that…..... Funny though… I crave someone elses touch. I crave smelling my partners scent on my pillows and I crave someone to hold hands with and feel completely safe and secure.

I want a stable, lasting, relationship really badly. It’s more than sex. I dont sleep around, go to bars, or party, so it’s hard to go out and just hook up with a guy. I don’t know.

partyrock's avatar

If anyone is wondering, I’m 22.

MollyMcGuire's avatar

I don’t think any of this is particularly normal—- understand I’m no professional. You are 22 and obsessed with this. A loving romantic relationship is one part of life. If comes when it comes. Live your life and let love find you. You sounds like that’s all you do is think about having a husband and kids. That’s pretty lame for 22, in my opinion. Concentrate on your education and career.

cookieman's avatar

You are a person of value all by yourself.

You say the people in your life are “great”, well you are a person in many other people’s lives. Would they describe you as “great”? Do you add positive things to their lives? I’ll bet you dollars to donuts the answer ‘yes’. But you don’t see it. You don’t see your value.

You don’t need someone to complete you. You are already complete.

You just need to believe it. Easier said than done, I know – but this is what you need to work on IMHO.

dabbler's avatar

You’re quite at odds with yourself
“I want a stable, lasting, relationship really badly.”
“Im starting to get feelings for him, and I do not want to. I’m afraid of getting attached to him, and it not working out or him leaving me.”

Any trust relationship (pals, business partners, life partners) inherently will be vulnerable to the actions of the other person. In most of them there are moments of disappointment, but that can be due to your own unfair expectations. Learn to corral those.
Know that the other person takes a risk being with you too. And your relationship will be based on a mutual intention to keep each other safe, and to care for each other.

The relationship you are craving requires both a surrendering to the partnership and your active intention to make it work to your mutual benefit. Go find someone who understands that and shares a commitment to it and you will get what you want.
You will both give yourselves to each other and “use” each other happily.

Paradox25's avatar

It sounds like you don’t know what you want and I’m saying this because I felt similar to you at one time, in some ways. It also sounds like you’re too dependent on others for your own inner happiness, which is not necessarily a good thing. I know you’ve mentioned that you have hobbies and such but you need to find something that you’re truly passionate about, and this can be difficult but I think that it is something that you need to do. It is difficult to say this because I don’t know what type of person you are.

I’m not sure about how extraverted you are and if you have a high degree of extraversion than you may be just passionate about being around other people or being in relationships. I don’t know, and I’m speaking as a person with a very high threshold for alone time when saying this. I do know one thing though, there was a time when I felt the need to have others like me to be ‘happy’, and a time when I needed to not only be in a relationship but be in the ‘right’ one with the ‘right’ person. I guess as I’ve gotten older I found many things that gave me great joy such as working on my invention projects, my career, education, cooking, etc where I wasn’t very dependent on others to be happy. The end result was that I’m more happier now than I ever was when I was friends with more people, and being more dependent on the former scenerio I’ve described rather than the latter for my happiness. On top of that I’ve naturally attracted more decent people into my life as a result of this.

When I stopped comparing myself to other people and their situations/expectations that helped me to gain more self-esteem and joy. It should be more important how you want to perceive yourself rather than how you want to be perceived by others. I know this sounds like a broken record coming from me, but you will never be happy until you’re happy with yourself, and you can’t get that from other people. I don’t know of any better way to give you advice than to compare myself to you to some degree, assuming that I even comprehended your post correctly.

marinelife's avatar

You need to work on yourself. I would suggest therapy. Failing that, you can get a lot of self-knowledge from the book Self Parenting.

wundayatta's avatar

Whoa! BIG question! I hope these words don’t scare you: you sound just like me. I did get a diagnosis to go with the feeling, fwiw.

I’ve told this story a dozen times before here, so you who have heard it can skip to the end, and you won’t miss anything.

About a decade into my marriage, my second child came along and my relationship to my wife started rapidly declining. Within a few years, we weren’t having sex at all. It seemed like we didn’t have a marriage any more—only a business that was responsible for two children and a house and a car. That’s all we did. Take care of things. We never went out. We never had fun. We never laughed. We never made love (maybe two or three times a year at the worst). I felt like I was all alone, on my own, with no connection to the world.

After a while, I started thinking about having an affair. I didn’t want to leave my wife because I loved her still, even if we were just a corporation. But I needed to be touched. I needed to be held. I needed to be taken inside.

In the beginning, I thought it was just sex that I wanted. I ended up advertising on Craigslist and that led to the most sordid experience of my life, which scared me to death. I didn’t recognize myself. I had risky sex with someone who was as far from a sexy woman as you can imagine. I took myself to the doctor and got checked out and was ok, and then I took myself to a therapist, and then I got my wife to join me.

Unfortunately, she hated the therapist, and then she had some health problems of her own, and we stopped getting help and I was on my own. But Askville appeared on the scene, and there I started meeting other women who seemed to mirror my situation. They had husbands who weren’t interested in sex, and who had emotionally separated from them. They wanted love as well as sex, and I realized, too, that I was fooling myself when I said I just wanted sex.

What I really wanted was love. Connection. That feeling of being known. Inside and out. And for me, sex is the confirmation of that feeling. That’s just the way it is for me. I need the physical connection in order to confirm or support or do something to the emotional and spiritual connection. Without all of it, there’s nothing really. Not for me.

I fell in love with six women in six months, and they fell in love with me, too, and I actually met one of them for a weekend. These relationships were roller coasters. I’d meet them and get to know them with an intense series of emails and phone calls and video chats and then I’d destroy them.

Not on purpose. But I’d get afraid. I’d start watching for any little sign of a problem such as someone not calling when they said they would, and then when they were ten minutes late, I’d freak out, and accuse them of jerking me around, and there was only so much of this anyone could stand, and the relationship would be over in another week or two. I’d have descended from euphoria to a depression I’d never felt before. And then it would start all over with someone new.

I don’t know where these women would come from, but they were always there. If I was psychologically open, they were there. They told me they liked my writing. They liked my ideas. They thought I was funny. They said all kinds of nice things that I didn’t believe for a second, although I was glad.

Because within each depression there grew a black hole inside me. It felt like endless empty space. It was loneliness and it felt so big, there was no way it could ever be filled. There was no way I could ever be ok with myself. There was something wrong with me and no matter how intelligent or witty or wise I might be, and no matter how many women loved me, there was no way that hole was ever going to be filled. But I didn’t know what else to do.

I started feeling like scum. I had a wife and I didn’t deserve her. I had two beautiful children and I didn’t deserve them. I was no longer doing any work at work, so I didn’t deserve that. I was pretty much worthless and I decided to tell my wife so she could divorce me. That way, I felt, I would help everyone out. No one would have to put up with me. I could leave my home and let my family be free of my worthlessness.

I could then be free to love someone else, although I knew that wouldn’t happen. If I wasn’t married, I was sure no one would be interested in me. I’d be desperate. The desperation would show. No one would be interested, and I’d be even more alone than before. I’d lose my job because I wasn’t doing anything. I’d lose my place because I couldn’t pay for it. I’d end up in a gutter somewhere covered with fish guts because I had nowhere else to go. I felt so bad that I think I actually half-wanted that to happen.

My wife, smart and loyal as she is, decided there was something wrong with me and took me to a shrink and got me diagnosed as bipolar. They gave me meds.

But the issues of loneliness and emptiness, even as the depression lifted, remained. My wife and I remained in therapy, and it helped us trust each other more and forgive each other a lot.

But I believe that the women who loved me when I was sick—if it makes sense to call that desperate state of being sickness—made a difference. They showed me that it isn’t a fluke. There is something in me that others like or want or feel comfortable with or something…. valuable to them. I had something to offer.

I don’t know what it is about me, but having one person say that I was valuable just wasn’t enough to make me believe it, especially when they weren’t loving me physically. And having women say they wanted to love me wasn’t enough because it wasn’t real. It was virtual. And yet, despite the virtuality, I came to believe there was something there. They were, I believe, attracted to me. I mean, why else would they do it? They didn’t have to? There was no contest. Nothing to prove.

Yes, they had their issues, just like me. Similar issues. Similar loneliness. But there are millions of men on the internet. They could have gone to anyone and they chose me.

Slowly, I think, this awareness that I have something to offer grew inside my awareness or self-concept. It began to help me with my sense of self. I began to wonder if maybe I was worthy of love or friendship or something better than my gutter, after all.

The conventional wisdom, I find, is that you have to work on yourself to fill that hole. No one else can do it. Perhaps that is right. Yet, if you don’t believe in yourself, I don’t think you can work on yourself. You just give up.

I think that other people can and do show you that you are worthwhile. They don’t like you for nothing, @partyrock. They don’t spend time with you for nothing. They don’t seek you out for nothing.

And you might think it is your body they want. You might subscribe to the guys are dogs philosophy and they’ll fuck any woman who’ll spread her legs for them. I don’t think that’s true. I think guys talk that way and they may even think that way, but I also think there’s a part of them that knows it’s bullshit. Guys want connection, too. They just don’t know how to think about it in many cases. They are often afraid of their own feelings of need. And like you, they often turn away chances to connect because they are so afraid of how badly it will hurt if it doesn’t work out.

I have found that I will do a lot more than is socially acceptable to find that connection. Even as I am loyal to my wife and my kids, I did stuff that most people would tell my wife to divorce my ass for. I did unforgivable things. And I would do them again, in the same situation. They worked, for me.

Your need for love and connection is very powerful. I can’t tell you what to do. I don’t know if what I did would work for you. I don’t know if it even works for me. But I found I could not fight myself. I had to try to get what I needed. Even if it meant doing things that people don’t approve of.

So. My little lessons from the experience.
1) You may want to consider going outside the boundaries of social approval. It’s that important.
2) You may want to let yourself really go for love. Stop holding back. One thing that helped me here was believing I could survive the depression when it didn’t work out. I was right, but I also got a lot closer to not surviving than I ever would have believed.
3) You need help from your “friends.” Every bit of love makes a difference in how you feel about yourself over the long run.

4) Another thing I learned in this process is that I can’t afford to judge myself. If I judge myself, I judge myself badly, and in doing so, I destroy my own sense of self-worth, and that opens the door to the final solution. That’s just me. My brain has a chemical imbalance so maybe I react much more strongly to negativity than others. I don’t know. But there’s no percentage in judging myself. It always works to my detriment—at least with respect to the black hole.

My advice is that you take this very seriously. This is the most important thing in life you have to deal with. This is your life and the meaning of life that you are dealing with. Do what you have to do in order to make your life what you want it to be. This does not mean abandoning principles or hurting others deliberately. But there may be collateral damage. Clean up your own messes, but don’t let the possibility of collateral damage keep you from trying to save your own life.

That’s pretty drastic advice. That’s based on my life. Hopefully, your situation isn’t as drastic as that. Hopefully you don’t even see anything in common with me and I am the one who is reading too much into it. I hope so. In that case, just enjoy this as a morality tale that doesn’t apply to you.

Good luck.

submariner's avatar

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be a wife and a mother. For the great majority of women, their role as mother is both their greatest source of personal fulfillment and their greatest contribution to society. But you’re not going to be a wife or a mother tomorrow, so in the meantime, why not see what else you can achieve as well? Find some area of endeavor that interests you and strive to achieve excellence in that field. Art, science, commerce, politics, philanthropy/social service, religion/spirituality… the world is wide open to you. I’m not talking about getting a hobby, I’m talking about accomplishing something. And chances are that in the course of your work, you will find a fellow traveler who will want to be your partner.

And don’t waste your time on FWB relationships. If they go well, you’ll want more, and if they go badly, then you’re better off being horny. You know you want to be a wife and a mother, so find somebody who wants a real relationship.

gambitking's avatar

Take or leave this response at your discretion, but its all about a higher power. Or, often equally importantly, where you place your priorities, and what you deem as significant enough to have power over you. Take secrets for example, like those that would cause trouble for you if others knew them (or so you might wrongly assume). They have power over you, but they wouldn’t if they weren’t secrets anymore. You might sometimes simply misapply power and significance to things.

But whether it’s God or some other deity or simple spiritual higher power of your own choosing, you need something like that to fill that spot where you’re currently placing other things like men and fantasies of your future love life. When I was your age, I lost a girlfriend of 3+ years in a rough break-up. It destroyed me, and I felt like you describe thereafter.

I went to a friend for solace, and received the opposite. He knew how attached I was to that girl, and how upset I was. But when I went to him hoping for sympathy and said “My GF and I broke up”, he said (wisely)... “Good, now you can find the right Higher Power”. I hated him at the moment, but it was the best advice I’d heard.

saint's avatar

You broke up in late 2011. That was yesterday in life terms. Your real issue is that you are impatient. Were you over indulged as a child?

deni's avatar

@MollyMcGuire What makes education and career less lame to be obsessed with than falling in love and having a family? Just because many kids are worrying about school and careers at 22, not everyone is.

But, @partyrock it’s kinda crazy, you basically just described the situation I’m in as well. Minus the having a child part, or getting married. But I got out of a relationship a few months back as well and I feel like empty void in me. I miss having somebody to do everything with and somebody who knows just how to touch my hair to make me feel better when I have a headache….tiny little things like that. My ex said to me once that he thinks I have a void that I try to fill with boyfriends, but they’ll never be able to fulfill it. I know he’s right, but pinpointing why I have that hole in the first place is what is so hard.

I think theres a lot of options….you seek approval, maybe you have low self esteem and need someone to constantly tell you they love you and make you feel better about yourself. I’m sure somebody has said this already, so sorry, but I think many issues like these stem from not loving yourself enough. I am currently trying to love myself more and be proud of what I do, and whatever, it’s harder said than done though. Good luck. I will return to read answers to help me out as well lol

wundayatta's avatar

@deni This is a common condition. Maybe even the human condition.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@deni @partyrock You’re also both at a very transitional stage in life. It can be tough.

Judi's avatar

I haven’t read all the other answers, but it might help to realize that what you are feeling is totally normal and comes from our base animal instinct to reproduce. What is causing you stress is the intectual part of you that fights to rise above your biology.
I don’t have an answer for how to get over it, but don’t beat yourself up. Hormones are really tough boogers to fight.

Coloma's avatar

I agree with @Judi to a degree, however, I think it is imperative to understand there is NO ” other half.”
One is whole and complete on their own, so, you are on the right track in looking within, finding ways to develop your self esteem and inner confidence. Regardless of age and hormones emotionally healthy people, while still feeling a pull towards wanting a relationship, feel “whole” and content within themselves and a relationship is an enhancement not a substitute for what’s already there.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@partyrock I mentioned trusting yourself in my first answer. Have you ever completely trusted one of your boyfriends? Enough to allow him completely into your heart. Or do you pull back?

partyrock's avatar

My last relationship ended very badly. I did trust him, with my heart, and body, and it went into pieces. It was heartbreaking. So now I feel torn between really wanting love, to being afraid of being hurt and distancing myself.

Thanks for everyone who has answered. Someone asked above if I think my friends would see me as great, I know they do. I feel really loved when it comes to my friends. Someone suggested I be very passionate about something, and I think that’s the answer too. I don’t have anything that I’m very passionate about, that I can just dive into and really put my soul in. I think everyones answers are very good. Thanks everybody

partyrock's avatar

Saint- No I don’t think I was.

partyrock's avatar

I’m not sure whether to break it off with the FWB situation I have like someone else suggested. In some ways I do and should break it But in other ways I don’t. I agree with what everyone says I need to work in myself.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@partyrock Sorry you got hurt. It’s scary enough trusting someone that much once, let alone trying it again. There are quite a few single jellies on here. I don’t think I could do it. I want to wake up to someone, and carry on the days activities with them.

partyrock's avatar

Don’t think you can do what ?

partyrock's avatar

I want to wake up to someone too. It’s a lovely feeling.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@partyrock Live all by myself. I get very lonely.

auhsojsa's avatar

Hm, focus on your hobby and dominate it, do it the best you can and your man will come along.

Coloma's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I think your sentiments hold true for a lot of men in our generation. My theory is that males of our generation were mostly used to having a stay at home moms and then wives who took care of them. A lot of middle aged men do not fare well being single, but..for a lot of us women who divorced in middle age it is a WONDERFUL, freeing time to focus on ourselves after years of domestic duties.
I married at 21, divorced at 43 and 9 years later, I am STILL high on having nobody to tend to except myself and my pets. lol

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Coloma I haven’t had a toxic relationship, so I don’t know what it feels like. I agree no relationship is better than a bad one.

YARNLADY's avatar

I suggest several sessions with a counselor.

auhsojsa's avatar

I remember going through my party phase, having sex flings and not relationships. Honestly the only way I got out of it, is when I decided to just stop it. Consciousness can be a very powerful, “thing”.

Smashley's avatar

I don’t really think there’s a problem here, besides the fact that you are upset that the kind of relationship you want isn’t coming to you. There’s a myth going around that the desire to focus your life on a relationship and children is an outdated and weak goal for a woman. This is bull. You know what you want, which is a lot better than a lot of people. Don’t worry about the “wrongness” of feeling empty without a husband or kids. It’s a legitimate life goal. If some unemployed person said they felt unfulfilled in their life, you’d understand. It’s not crazy to have similar feelings about not having a relationship or a family.

So you know what you want, but not how to get it. Unfortunately, there is no simple solution here, and there can be big time consequences for making bad decisions. It sounds like you’re going to have to do some experimentation before you can find the kind of relationship that works for you.

So don’t be afraid! Go into relationships wearing your heart on your sleeve. Practice openness, honesty and communication and demand the same of your partners. If you can’t sleep with someone without getting attached, get to know them well enough to know that maybe they could work out in the long run, before you hop into the sack. This will minimize the number of times you get hurt, but, let’s face it, until you can stop yourself from getting attached to people who aren’t right for you you will get hurt. Learn and grow from it.

As a final note: being horny and single with your life goals is like grocery shopping when hungry. Get out your vibe (or buy one already, you prude!) and love yourself daily. You’ll think clearer and make better decisions. Good luck!

HungryGuy's avatar

You could always become a BDSM slave and have no choice in anything, and be used yourself, and learn obedience. Just sayin’ :-/

Blondesjon's avatar

I started drinking.

mattbrowne's avatar

When it comes to relationships it’s all about we instead of I. So if you really like to get an honest feedback, take a fresh look at what you were writing above. Notice the number of times you were using the pronoun I?

Life is not just about ourselves. Neither men nor women are interested in having relationships with I-centered people. So how about this? Write about the feelings of the men you were with. What about their needs? What about your common feelings? Your common needs? The dreams you had in common?

Then picture a future man sharing which dream?

Ela's avatar

I have not read read through all the replies, so I apologize if this is a repeat or unhelpful…

Personally, I don’t think you have low self-esteem or a need to re-evaluate yourself for short comings. I see nothing wrong with wanting to find someone you can depend on. As I am sure they would able to depend on you. I see nothing wrong with wanting to find a deep, passionate love that reaches every level.
While a person should always try to be the best they can and be open to growth and change, I don’t think you need to completely change your outlook. I do think you may want to learn ways to preserve and protect yourself so you don’t lose what I consider a rare, special quality… the ability to love easily, unconditionally and without restraints.
There are to many people in the world who will take advantage of you and hurt you.

john65pennington's avatar

Short and sweet answer here.

Some people were born to be great artists and some were born to be a wife and mother.

Your emptiness lies in having your own family with a man that loves you as much as you will love him.

Keep searching for Mr. Right. He is out there, you just have to go looking.

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