Obama(romney)Care sucks. Since the Republicans want to repeal it what is their replacement?

Honestly, I don’t think they need a replacement, they can just want to get rid of it. Republican Presidents since I have been alive don’t seem to touch the health care issue for the masses, they just leave it to the free market. Bush did do some stuff with medicare, but that is a government run program already.

Romney talks about doing everything that is in that bill EXCEPT for the part of how to pay for it. Everybody hates that part, (tax rise), but how else does it get paid for?

@cazzie I have not been following politics much, but I had thought Romnet talks mostly about each state getting to do whatever they want, and not so much about doing everything in Obamacare except how to pay for it. Are you saying he has said he wants to continue certain parts of obamacare at a federal level?

@JLeslie the quotes I saw, he said, ‘Yes, we need. blah blah blah blah’ which are current components in the Affordable Care Act. I think he would like to implement the popular parts and let the States work out how to pay for it. It is what he did in Mass, isn’t it?

@cazzie Well, Romney argues it doesn’t matter what he did for Mass, he doesn’t agree with the fed dictating what needs to be done. So, I find it interesting that you heard him say that. I do wonder if your interpretation is different than his intention or how republicans are understanding/hearing what he said. I saw Bobby Jindal on Meet The Press, he is being considered for VP supposedly, and he persisted on saying states will get it right on their own. One of the people on the panel threw out a stat that over 20% of TX children are not covered by health insurance, and Jindal said in his state of LA 90 something percent (high 90’s) of children are covered. So, it seems to me the Republican line is still leave it all up to the states. Of course, those are just stats for children. Many states offer a government option for children.

Romney may very well have meant what you think, I just find it surprising if he has gone that route.

There are federal mandates for many things. Drinking age, car safety, education, food safety, air and water quality. Perhaps the federal government needs to say ‘Hey, States, get your shit together over caring for the health of your citizens and reach these goals, or you loose… say… all your tax, pork subsidies.

If the States rights people keep yelling about ‘it is a State issue’, (like Arizona creating it’s very own foreign policy) they may as well call themselves the ‘American States Union, like the European Union, but even more loosely united, where all they have in common, really is their currency. There will be nothing ‘United’ about the States at all. (except it’s mindless rhetoric, perhaps) But I am guessing that won’t happen.

The argument of most of the people objecting to the Affordable Care Act mostly boils down to this.

@johnpowell, I watched the video. Rubio didn’t blast Obamacare in his discussion with Stewart. Regarding his plan on healthcare reform, Rubio said he has made speeches about his ideas and it never got coverage. He and Stewart even discussed single-payer. I honestly wish everyone would watch the video you posted. At least the portion with Rubio. He is sharp. Thanks for posting, @johnpowell.

Also, regarding Rubio’s solution to healthcare, if you go to his website there is a synopsis that says: To start lowering health care costs and begin to reclaim our country, Senator Rubio believes we need to take simple, common sense actions, including allowing individuals to purchase health insurance across state lines, encouraging small businesses to band together to form Association Health Plans, giving individuals the same tax breaks given to businesses, incentivizing the use of electronic medical records; giving people tools to make cost-conscious decisions, increasing the number of community health centers, incentivizing state medical malpractice reform, enhancing Health Savings Accounts, pursuing medical malpractice reform and adopting a sensible program to cover those with pre-existing conditions.

I found this on the GOP’s website. My first problem is that they insist on calling this a “job destroying” bill. I have a hard time understanding how it will destroy jobs. It is a pretty bare-bones description of what they want to use to replace president Obama’s healthcare plan. Near as I can tell, while some of their ideas makes sense (such as not denying coverage for preexisting conditions), it will do nothing to help someone like me be able to afford medical insurance.

@cazzie I call it the Confederate States of America, but maybe yours is more comtemporary.

Job destroying? Hah! You can’t pump that much money into a sector of the economy without driving up the demand for health services and dramatically increasing the need for health care employees.

Then their plan? Allowing folks to buy plans in other states? That won’t help unless you allow people to buy plans that with lower minimum coverages. If you do that, you don’t help, because the health insurance plans don’t cover much.

Malpractice reform? Won’t save much money. Malpractice is not a bit cost component in health care. Health savings account? Merely a tax gimmick. It changes nothing about how people consume health care. Pre-existing conditions? No mention of how it will be paid for.

Getting rid of abortions? A, it won’t save much money and B, it hurts women. It’s a destructive policy.

The Republican plan is a joke. It doesn’t deserve to be called a plan. It’s just there so they can say they have something, even though it does worse than nothing.

The Republicans have no ideas for health care because they have boxed themselves into a corner. They can have no ideas about health care because the only thing that will work is single-payer.

They say Americans will try everything else before they try what works. The paucity of elements in the Republican plan shows we are damn near out of everything else. After Obamacare, the only reasonable next step is single-payer. Of course, I won’t hold my breath on that. Republican have a genius for persuading the American public to do the stupidest thing possible.

They don’t, unless you consider the I’ve gotten mine so tough shit if you didn’t get yours argument an alternative.

Relevant. The whole clip is excellent, but scroll to 2:20 for Romney’s ‘plan’.