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Is there a strong or weak connection between spirituality and organization?

Asked by Aster (20023points) May 4th, 2013

I was wondering, while munching on honey roasted cashews, if some or all persons would feel calmer and closer to Spirit or God if one were living in an orderly, clean environment as opposed to chaos and disarray? That is, would a clean and neat home tend to make one feel more relaxed and Spiritual than living in a messy, disorganized household? And if so, would it be wise to begin getting rid of many useless, material things if one wanted to become more Spiritual? Or are the two not connected?

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marinelife's avatar

I think the two are totally unconnected.

syz's avatar

I don’t think there’s any link.

chyna's avatar

Not sure what “munching on honey roasted cashews” has to do with it, but I see no correlation in clean house=more spiritual.

thorninmud's avatar

To start, a clarification of terms: for me, spirituality is a perspective that looks for connectedness, and takes for granted that nothing exists in isolation. This is the basis of compassion, which is arguably our subjective experience of connectedness, and the whole point of spirituality.

When you’re attuned to that connectedness, the state of your surroundings matters. You don’t see yourself as a being in a bubble, unaffected by what’s around you. It’s not that you want to keep your surroundings orderly so that you can be more spiritual, though. It’s more that—strange as this may sound—your compassion moves you to want the best for everything.

That’s hard to explain, but I experience it like this: spaces (or things or people or animals) that show signs of neglect and disarray look to me like they’re suffering. Even though it may not make any sense to think of a neglected room or car as “suffering”, that’s how it feels from a perspective of connectedness/compassion. It’s that sense of suffering that moves me to want to do what I reasonably can to alleviate it. To be “spiritual” is to be responsive to that urge.

In the Zen world, there’s a maxim that if you walk into a temple and see dirt and disarray, then something’s amiss in the spiritual life at that temple. That’s not because Zen temples are “supposed to be” neat and clean. It’s because a community of compassionate people wouldn’t abide suffering like that.

Aster's avatar

@thorninmud GA a million times. I have to keep reading your response; it is just too fascinating and deep for me to fathom.

dabbler's avatar

Most spiritual systems have some aspect of order and refinement to them.
How that maps into mundane material existence is a matter of interpretation.
But I think @thorninmud‘s description is a start.
When you have your spiritual ducks in a row you may have a lot less time for “useless material things” and they won’t collect around you.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Maybe the mess is a distraction preventing you from meditatating?
Something bothers you about the material mess.
Clear out unwanted items, clear out your mind of unwanted thoughts etc
I cleared out 17 years of storage that bothered me every day that I saw it.
I feel better now that that burden has lifted.
Like I had tacked a problem and solved it to my satisfaction successfully.
I can now go on without this distraction.

gailcalled's avatar

I expend less energy when I keep my house clean and uncluttered; it frees me up for more interesting and fulfilling activities, not religious in my case. However, if you consider weeding, soil amendment and pruning a spiritual activity, then I am down with that.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Cleanliness and minimalism both allow your focus to remain on worship and study. Many religions mention it.

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