Was Angelina Jolie "duped"?
According to this article she was.
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They said “you have an 87% chance of breast cancer.” I don’t think of that as being duped. They are entitled to their opinion and I hope it was an educated one. But I do know , if it had been me, I would have done months of research before being maimed.
It seems to me that you could still get cancer on the chest wall which is what she has left .
Not the most reliable source, sez I (a survivor of breast cancer).
My daughter just called to discuss this with me. I was well over 50 when I was diagnosed, which changes the odds. My mother had a very small lump removed when she was in her late 80’s. No one even bothered her about chemo or radiation. She lived happily until well after her 96 birthday. And there are no other female cancers in any other family member, on either side for her. So I calmed her down.
It is certainly not an issue to take lightly.
I applaud her courage & wish her well.
Question could have read “Did Angelina Jolie make a boob?”
A. The article was written by a man.
B. This is commonly recommended surgery for people who have the BRCA gene. I know two people personally to whom it was recommended. I’m sure Joie did not undertake it lightly.
She strikes me as a very smart person, not one easily “duped.” I’m sure she did her homework on this, and I applaud her courage.
Everything about this article makes me angry. Is this the first time this person has heard of preventative surgery? No, she didn’t have cancer yet, but she was pretty much assured to get it, and if she waited until after she got it to have a mastectomy, it could spread to other body systems.
I admire her and admitted to my husband I would do the same thing if I could afford to. If you’ve never heard a loved one crying saying “I have cancer.” then you probably can’t understand my point of view, but I have and it was horrible.
She has children and is doing to the responsible and brave thing, which is not self-mutilation to me, it’s self-preservation spitting in the face of modern ‘beauty’ and ‘image’, as per Hollywood.
The part of the article that upset me the most is that the person disregarded ‘luck’, and all of us know someone that hasn’t ever smoked or anything and got cancer. By the way, get your annuals and your mammograms, people!!
“So the whole “chance” argument is pure quackery. There is no chance involved in whether you get cancer. It’s all cause and effect. You are either living a pro-cancer lifestyle and therefore growing cancer, or you’re living an anti-cancer lifestyle and keeping cancer in check so that it never becomes a problem. Cause and effect is what results in either the growth of cancer tumors or the prevention of cancer tumors. There is no “luck” involved.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040349_Angelina_Jolie_breast_cancer_surgery.html#ixzz2TNtYlUBY
I’ve always wanted to see Angelina Jolie topless, but this isn’t what I meant.
I think she made a very tough and brave decision, and I will not second guess her.
I say good luck to her.
I do not believe she was duped. The vitamins and nutrition the author of the article sites I do not believe have been studied in a large group of BRCA positive women. These women are not the average women in terms of breast cancer risk. I do think we have some control over our health and the development of cancers, but some people have such a strong genetic tendency towards a disease it would be difficult to be so perfect with our environment and what we put in our bodies to avoid the cancer.
I really get the impression the author is lumping all women together in terms of cancer risk.
He also compares it to colon cancer and testical cancer and it is not the same. First, colon screening is reasonably easy to do, and if it is cancer that starts as polyps we can easily remove them and hopefully avoid cancer altogether for people with that risk. Testical cancer has great cure rates. Men usually can catch testical cancer early. Also treatment for breast cancer, the chemo, royally sucks. For whatever reason, the chemo for the female cancers tend to be really abusive to the body from vomiting to loss of hair. Not all chemo treatments are like that. Not that I am saying other cancer treatments are a walk in the park. Plus, breast cancer goes to the bone or lymph system, and then to other parts of the body all too often. I don’t know how often that happens with colon cancer and testical cancer, I do know someone who had a very aggressive colon cancer, would not be caught on colonscopy as a polyp, and it spread throughout his body fast. Maybe if his sone knew of a test for that particular cancer gene, maybe they would remove their colon later in life?
Consider the source.
” A top cancer doctor praised Oscar-winner Angelina Jolie for raising public consciousness about breast cancer by detailing her decision to undergo a double mastectomy.
“Awareness is a good thing,” said Dr. Otis Brawley, chief medical officer of the American Cancer Society.” Source
”“If a woman with a high risk of ovarian cancer had a 30 percent chance of being diagnosed with ovarian cancer at some point in her lifetime, an oophorectomy could reduce her risk to 6 percent, assuming an 80 percent risk reduction,” according to the Mayo Clinic.
Angelina’s doctors estimated that she had a 50 percent chance of getting ovarian cancer, so removing her ovaries would drastically reduce her cancer risk.” Source
Angie went topless in a couple of early roles & on a purely selfish level, I shall “mourn” there passing.
@marinelife I was wondering about her ovarian risk, was she planning on removing them also? I hadn’t heard anything about her speaking to that.
@JLeslie Yes, if you read that article, you will see she is planning to have that surgery also.
Nope. But people who think that chewing broccoli will prevent cancer might be.
She had the money and she also got reconstruction. So what’s the drawbacks here?
This woman has never struck me as a fool. She seems to have a very clear sense of her own priorities. Reducing the risk of a shortened life and ensuring she can be around to mother her children would seem far preferable to spending the rest of her life worrying about whether or when she will develop breast or ovarian cancer. It’s her right to make the choice she did. I am quite sure she didn’t wake up one morning and make the decision flippantly. She has access to the best doctors and specialists available.
I wish Ms. Jolie well. She had access to good information and to knowledgeable people who helped her interpret it. I only wish that the test – for defective genes – had been available in Trinidad and Tobago five years ago.
I tested positive in 2010 for the condition described as HER3 which is caused by a defective gene.
I think she would not take such drastic steps without good reason. What I find remarkable is that, according to the news, suddenly more women are having breast exams, mammograms, etc. simply because she took this action. Are people so hypnotised by movie stars that they ignore health warnings until someone like Angelina decides to go public with her ideas on the subject. I just watched this today and this doc sort of poo poos the idea of annual tests if you are not in the group that has the propensity to develop the problems. Another case of who do you believe???
@rooeytoo To your first question: Yes, people are hypnotized by movie stars.
Now, about your link. That video; well, I could almost weep it makes me so happy there are doctors like that. The technology shown is incredible! I didn’t know it existed. Indon’t think he was saying all the annual tests we do now should be thrown out. I interpreted what he said as doing them is a waste for patients and money if and when we have mire information about the risks the particular individual has. He mentioned genetic testing. Most people do not have genetic testing done. As that gets cheaper and more available we will have more information. He showed doing an EKG in your phone, or an echo on your phone, that will save an incredible amount of money.
I personally think breast mamogram every year from the age of 40 is a waste. When a study came out saying that everyone freaked out you might remember. I have never met someone who had breast cancer in their 40’s where it was seen on mammogram. I don’t even mean caught, I mean seen. Everyone I know who had breast cancer that young found it themselves and when they had a mammogram it was normal or inconclusive. I’m sure there have been women in their 40’s who had breast cancer caught on mammogram, I obviously only know so many women who had breast cancer in their 40’s, so it isn’t like I can make some sort of scientific declaration, but that has been my experience.
Women are more concerned about breast cancer than heart disease, when heart disease is the much bigger risk. Except for women who are more likely to get breast cancer. The average woman has a 1 in 8 chance of breast cancer. The average woman has a 1 in 3 chance of heart disease (those are probably USA stats). But, Angelina Jolie, her personal chance of breast cancer is much higher than heart disease. That’s what this doctor on the video is talking about, using that information to cater individual health care.
Having just lost my Grandmother to cancer and with other family members who have fought cancer and had varying levels of success, if anyone said to me that they could have prevented it by a simple change of diet I would have a very strong urge to smack them in the head. My dad’s Aunt had Ovarian cancer for years, she was the healthiest (as far as nutrition etc) and fittest person I have ever met. I truly believed that because of her lifestyle she would win her battle and live a long life. She died a slow and painful death. I think Jolie made the right decision if everything we are being told is true and I hope I would make the same one if I found out that my chances of developing cancer were that high. The person who wrote this article comes across as an ignorant, insensitive arsehole.
Q: What Angelina Jolie duped?
A: She’s no boob.
No, your grammar is all wrong. It’s “No boob, she.”
But does she have a brother named Hilary?
Yes, but he’s married to Bill.
I think it took a lot of courage to do what she did. After all, some people might accuse her of trying to revive a flagging career with a risky PR stunt that also enables her to get cosmetic / augmentation surgery at the same time (paid for) and allows her to cash in with the “Oh, poor you!” sympathy crowd. She’s got all her bases covered here.
However, on a much more positive and less cynical note, this will certainly raise awareness of female breast cancer risks in the USA. After this, who can fail to note that Heart disease is the Number 1 killer of adult women in the United States?
Wait… what?
@CWOTUS Yeah, I already mentioned the hear disease risk in my last paragraph. Komen has just done an amazing job at “promoting” breast cancer. Primarily because, and this is just my opinion, women often die if their illness is related to sex organs our country is so flippin’ puritanical, especially in the past. God forbid you said the word breast in public 50 years ago. But, it is time for heart disease to move front and center, Barbra Streisand has a fantastic fund and hospital researching women’s heart disease. She said men were more likely to give huge donations than women, which she found very surprising. She is talking about peers of hers who can make very large donations. The women were harder to talk to. She thinks it might be some sort of denial? She’s not sure.
But, for Jolie her breast cncer risk probably is much higher than heart disease. That’s the thing. The public needs to really look at health from an infdiviual basis, not just as those we are part of a mass of people according to gender or race or part of the world. That is what is so exciting about genetic testing.
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