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Would it be possible to concoct a conspiracy theory so absurd even dedicated conspiracy theorists would reject it as improbable?

Asked by ETpro (34605points) September 9th, 2013

I’ve posted links to this video in answer to several questions. I guess it should be no surprise. We live in an age of technology and scientific achievement beyond anything our ancestors could have even imagined possible just 200 years ago. And yet we are in many ways less well educated on average than the citizens of that age.

The 30 second sound bite is now too long for the national attention span, and has given way to the 10 second sound bite. In an age where science is probing the very boundaries of the Big Bang’s Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation looming 47 billion light years away, and looking at subatomic particles doing amazing things in the attometer size range; much of the public’s belief in fairy tales, witches, ghosts and demons is back to what it was in the dark ages.

People who firmly believe that the government is profoundly incompetent and incapable of doing anything right also swear that this same government has been successful in a massive, half-century long coverup of extraterrestrial invaders visiting earth. The credulity level of today’s Americans is appalling.

Given the current Internet environment, how insanely ridiculous would a proposed new conspiracy theory have to be before reasonable skepticism would kick in?

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WestRiverrat's avatar

No, whatever conspiracy theory you concoct, there will be someone who believes it.

I mean people think the Bush administration pulled off the greatest conspiracy since the JFK assassination. But some of the same people will say Bush isn’t smart enough to find his own way out of a wet paper bag.

Blondesjon's avatar

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ucme's avatar

Fifty years ago if you’d told the American electorate they’d have a former actor, a peanut farmer & a black man as their president, they’d have probably laughed in your face.
I’d keep from them the chimpanzee that was George Dubya, no one’s gonna believe that shit.

talljasperman's avatar

Yes. That someone somewhere actually likes Tofu.

josie's avatar

http://www.blackherbals.com/got_melanin_anyone.htm
Until I saw your video, I always thought this essay about melanin was a winner.

1TubeGuru's avatar

Yes those pesky metallic oxide salts introduced into our water supply by the shadow government are causing a rainbow effect.maybe she is one of the unfortunate folks that got ahold of some of the brown acid at Woodstock?

Sueanne_Tremendous's avatar

What an awesome video. Concerning the “rainbow effect” I think this is an indisputable theory because until 1990 I never saw rainbows when I had an orgasm. Now it happens every time. In 1990 I started drinking water and I think that has caused this.

Neodarwinian's avatar

Simply, no.

The video starts with ” the sprinkler’s rainbow conspiracy. ”

So, obviously these people would accept anything they see as a conspiracy as a conspiracy!

Jeruba's avatar

I don’t think so. Whenever I read about the conspiracy theories that some people actually subscribe to, my own imagination always seems impoverished by comparison.

DWW25921's avatar

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s true! We all know that cats can stand on their hind legs, right? Well they’re here, among us right now! There’s a whole race of them in orbit just waiting for the order to invade! They’ve already infiltrated our planet with spies and the like! Have you ever noticed that our president is always clean shaven? Obama is actually a giant cat in disguise! Sometimes when you play his speeches backwards at different speeds you hear a distinct “meow!” He has a secret stash of scratching posts hidden at Area 51 waiting on his feline brethren and nom noms hidden in the oval office!

We need to do something fast or our planet will be scratched apart and used as a giant litter box! You may think this is just craziness or satire but when the hailstorm of ticked off alien kitties comes crashing down on you, you can’t say you weren’t warned!

@ETpro You mean like that?

glacial's avatar

Suddenly, I am seeing that double rainbow guy in a whole new light… he may have been on to something there.

filmfann's avatar

When a friend of mine started talking about how 9–11 didn’t involve airline jets, but were military missiles, I was dumbstruck. It was like the old line “Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?”

ETpro's avatar

@WestRiverrat, @Neodarwinian, @Jeruba & @filmfann I’m with you. Imagination doesn’t stretch far enough to exceed such credulity. :-)

@Blondesjon Dang I wish I could have gotten here quick enough to see what you said. Must be part of the vast conspiracy to keep me in the dark. You can tell the conspirators their evil plan is working far better than they could have dreamed.

@ucme Ah yes, the smirking chimp. The other branch of the great ape family’s revenge on centuries of humans dissing them.

@talljasperman Umm, my wife likes tofu and so do I. You’re going to need a bigger boat..

@josie Thanks. That’s truly hilarious.

@1TubeGuru You dropped some of that Woodstock stuff too? :-)

@Sueanne_Tremendous I’m pretty sure it the UFOs doing it, but then their shape shifters have replaced out elected officials, so I guess you’re right it’s our gubment too.

@DWW25921 Not even close to being unbelievable to the gullible out there. Look at all the sites about lizard people living in massive cities they have built on the dark side of the moon and having taken over all levels of the world’s governments.

@glacial On to something, or just “on something”?

ragingloli's avatar

There is. The conspiracy theory that Bin Laden and Al Qaida is responsible for 9/11.

rojo's avatar

I believe @ETpro is part of a conspiracy to make us so inured to conspiracy that we will not believe the actual conspiracy he is conspiring to hide in plain sight.

Does that count?

ETpro's avatar

@ragingloli Excellent point. A conspiracy that’s actually true will be rejected by the conspiracy theorists as too simple and obvious to have any credence. As Samuel Butler wrote in Characters back in the 17th century, “A credulous mind…finds most delight in believing strange things, and the stranger they are the easier they pass with him; but never regards those that are plain and feasible, for every man can believe such.

@rojo So what if you’re on to me? As @ragingloli and Samuel Butler explained, they will never believe you. Ha!

rojo's avatar

Damn! This puts me into a conundrum. I thought this was such an easy, simple theory.

1TubeGuru's avatar

@ETpro ,I was seven years old at the time Woodstock occurred so LSD was not on my list of things to do.

Blondesjon's avatar

Fluther is actually a front for the GOP meant to turn regular folks off to liberalism.

drhat77's avatar

I think if you tell a conspiricay theorist that (s)he is the head of some conspiracy, they would not believe it. But how funny would it be if they did.

Paradox25's avatar

I’m rather agnostic on some conspiracy theories, such as aliens visiting Earth and JFK’s assassination. Most conspiracy hypothesises I find absurd myself, but I don’t think there’s an answer to your question here. All we have to do is look at the flat earth society to understand my point here.

talljasperman's avatar

That I am actually traveling though time from using my or others psychic powers.

ETpro's avatar

@1TubeGuru Knowing what it’s like to do acid, I am really glad you didn’t try that at 7.

@Blondesjon That’s a good one! That just might qualify.

@drhat77 I was just reading about a case even stranger than that, but all too real. Read about the case of Paul Ingram in Washington State. It is an expose on religious extremism at least as crazy as the inquisition and burning millions at the stake for demonic possession and witchcraft. This is why I am such a critic of faith in an evidence free, absolute truth revealed by the ancients.

@Paradox25 It’s certainly possible that intelligent life from elsewhere has visited the Earth. But the lion’s share of the extraterrestial visitation claims are obvious fakes. Those making the claims are probably just as sincere as those who claimed visits from the Gods in ancient Greece and Rome, or the Virgin Mary or Beelzebub in the dark ages, or fairies in the Gaelic realms. Interestingly, visitations by demons and angels dropped off the chart at the exact moment aliens began abducting people. It seems far more likely that the ample ability of humans to have vivid dreams and waking hallucinations draws from the current Zeitgeist in determining what sort of spectre will drop in on us.

@talljasperman Way too tame. Remember, you’re competing with Satanic cults producing millions of undocumented births for ritual sacrifice and cannibalism; and aliens capable of traversing millions of light years in a flash, and walking through walls; but obsessed with using early 20th century medical apparatus to probe human sexual parts.

GiantKyojin's avatar

No, certainly not! All of these hoaxes (called “conspiracy theories”) in existence are patently absurd, but they have dedicated believers. Some people badly want to believe in something, and the more absurd it is, the better they love it. Some people also love believing the worst about governments and other groups, and these hoaxes allow it. paranoia is another element involved. It is impossible that ETs have visited Earth. Interstellar distances are quite huge, and matter has severe speed limits, as anyone who comprehends the Theory of Relativity knows. “SKEPTIC” magazine had a recent article in which several scientists told why “Visiting Spaceships Are Preposterous”. The nearest extra-solar planet for certain is a gas giant orbiting Epsilon Eridani. The most advanced possible civilization’s spaceships would require 210 years or not much less to make the voyage to Earth one way. It is unlikely that any life form could or would want to spend 420 years on round trips.

ETpro's avatar

@GiantKyojin Welcome to Fluther. It’s always nice to see new members join and bring along a healthy sense of skepticism.

I am currently reading The Future Happens Twice: The Perrenial Projet by our own Matt Browne. He has imagined a scenario where humanity, fearing a mass extinction event, has decided to use their advanced technology in the 22nd century to launch a ship that will carry frozen embryos along with human-like androids to care for them in childhood and an artificial womb device to nurture them and provide the right soup of hormones, proteins, and peptides and such to bring them to full term. Their trip to a earth-like exoplanet in the Milky Way will take over 42,000 years. It’s a interesting read, and I can see some alien intelligence or even humans in a future where such a venture is possible actually doing just such. But in that scenario, I think they would go out of their way to avoid planets already inhabited by intelligent life.

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