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Is higher learning a scam (NSFW video inside mild swearing)?

Asked by talljasperman (18441 points ) January 27th, 2014

Don’t go to law school. Can one counter the pessimistic argument, from the video, with something positive about higher education… or is It true that university is mostly a scam? If so what programmes are not scams? Does the scam extend to the trades too?

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WestRiverrat's avatar

The link is blocked here, I will try it later from another ISP.

In and of itself education is a good thing. However the idea that you cannot be successful without going to college is a scam.

As far as I am concerned if you can pass the bar you should be able to practice law, regardless of the schooling you have.

hearkat's avatar

In my case, it wasn’t a ‘scam’. Granted, I didn’t feel like I’d learned much when transitioning from the classroom to clinical practice, but had I not had the Master’s Degree and all those classroom hours, I know that I would not have been able to really understand what I was doing in the clinical environment. There are exceptions to every rule, and I’m sure there are some gifted individuals for whom classroom lectures are not necessary; but making exceptions for the few and far between would be an administrative nightmare. Having universal standards to practice certain professions just makes sense.

For example, a friend of mine earned their Master’s Degree and aced the clinical portion of their exam, but could not pass the written portion of the test – had they made an exception for her, how many other people would they have to process as potential exceptions and who would be liable if those ‘exceptions’ made errors in their practice? Conversely, I have always been a gifted test-taker, and believe that if given a typical multiple-guess standardized test, I would pass. Just because someone can pass a test doesn’t prove proficiency. Again, if they gave certifications/licenses to people who can simply pass a test, who would be liable for issues that arise in the actual practice of the profession?

I will note that current higher education costs are outrageous, and most generalized 2-or 4-year degrees are useless (e.g. Liberal Arts, Art History, Philosophy, etc.). However, if one is in a program that is prerequisite to a particular career goal, then it is valuable by necessity, but still very overpriced.

LuckyGuy's avatar

I took physics and engineering courses and continue to use what I learned. The courses and advice that did me no good were: “Take German language as one of your humanities requirements. You will need it to read technical papers.” “You must take 2 philosophy courses. They will help you think.”
I take data and figure things out, therefore I am.

I learned the original phrase and just used it in a joke so I guess I did learn something.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

^^ What he said.

Tiabaailey's avatar

Lol , not mine

Naked_Whale_Tamer's avatar

I received a degree from a 3rd rate college but was hired by a Fortune 10 company almost immediately. I did very well financially.

When I chose a major, I asked myself what is the hardest possible field to reduce the competition. I certainly didn’t chose sociology, psychology, history or English. I went for math/science. I was an awful high-school student so I had to study non-stop.

When I took my GREs in a large university auditorium, the proctor whispered ‘good luck’ to me; she didn’t say that to anyone else. That scared the daylights out of me.

If you go for easy fun courses, be prepared to be disappointed by the lack of job opportunities and tons of competition.

The scam of higher education is when the students aren’t made aware of the probabilities of gaining meaningful employment for certain majors. Wanna be a philosophy or comparative religions major, sure go ahead, the uni will take gladly your money but you’ll be living in your parent’s basement for quite a few years.

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