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filmfann's avatar

Isn’t it sad that the Republicans have to make shit up to make Obama look bad?
The Democrats never had to make shit up to make Bush look bad. The truth was enough.

josie's avatar

I really do not like Barack Obama.

Having said it, I will bet that is bullshit.

zenvelo's avatar

It is except in Louisiana.

Be scared of traitors to the Constitution pretending to be Christians.

DWW25921's avatar

@ragingloli That’s a great site! Thanks for posting it. I think I’m going to be spending more time there!

@filmfann It’s sad no matter which isle one hails.

@josie It would appear to be total crap. I’m glad! :)

ragingloli's avatar

@zenvelo
Yep, only christians are allowed to indoctrinate at public schools.

DWW25921's avatar

@zenvelo I don’t think that’s ok either… It would be worse though if it came from the top. I’m glad that’s not the case!

DWW25921's avatar

@ragingloli So am I right in asserting that Obama was talking about the people group as a whole and not about the religion within it? That is a big difference…

ragingloli's avatar

@DWW25921
Obama never made that speech.

DWW25921's avatar

@ragingloli Geezzz… Man, I believe in freedom of speech as much as the next guy but this crap has got to stop. I mean, is there a REAL “fair and balanced” news organization… anywhere? Just the facts! Is that too much to ask from these people?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@ragingloli Unfortunately I agree with you on that. I’m not sure why the hypocrisy is so blatant but it is. It’s unfortunate because it undermines the rights of others and some Reps refuse to see that.

It’s not necessarily that I find it wrong to do, but like the Satan statue, I’d rather keep it all out than allow everything.

MadMadMax's avatar

Typical.

Right now, every few minutes I get hit with emails that claim Kay Hagen wants babies dead.
She voted yes for Affordable Health Care and she’s probably the only Democrat left in NC.
The lies are incredible. I did a little research. The orgs paying for most of these attacks are funded by Art Pope who is a major nut job billionaire who successfully used his donations and phony conservative organizations to get NC redistricted and change voting rights.

We are a fascist state now.

Darth_Algar's avatar

They should really pass a law requiring that bullshit detectors be distributed to everyone, free of charge. It doesn’t even have to be a particularly expensive or strong bullshit detector. In this case any cheap, $15—$20, made in China, bullshit detector from your nearest Big Box Retailer should have been able to pick up on this.

DWW25921's avatar

@MadMadMax One of the reasons why I like this site is if I’m having trouble fact checking the folks here are a variable cornucopia of information. that just to say, the truth is out there if you’re willing to dig or ask…

@KNOWITALL You would think “keeping it all out” would be easy… Such a simple idea. Folks want their stories told along with their world views. It may be against human nature to ask them to tone it down a bit…

@Darth_Algar I love it! A little buzzer goes off when you’re full of crap… I think politicians would exempt themselves but boy the citizens would HAVE to wear it!

Darth_Algar's avatar

I was thinking more along the lines of something you use to pick up on other people’s bullshit.

jaytkay's avatar

Hah I love those stories from The Onion!

DWW25921's avatar

@jaytkay I don’t read the Onion, or watch CNN or FOX for the same reason.

bolwerk's avatar

There is nothing illegal about religion in school anyway. If there is a legitimate state interest to be shown (e.g., is a certain group underperforming in schools?), there would even be nothing illegal about reaching out to a religious group.

What is illegal is using schools as a venue to establish religion. Students in schools have a right to the free exercise of their religions, and schools can even make reasonable accommodations to allow that.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The supposed “news article” is clearly satirical. Even my exceedingly low opinion of Republicans will not permit me to believe that they are responsible for this sort of thing which is clearly beyond ordinary nonsense. Nope, some very blue leaning individuals are behind this one.

ETpro's avatar

@stanleybmanly Nice try. But here’s today’s home page. http://gopthedailydose.com/ If this is a false flag attack, don’t you think they are taking it a bit far? Look at all the comments the stories get. Look at who they are fundraising for. This is just one more in a growing cesspool of RepugniCon hate mongering and pandering to the rabid right base.

stanleybmanly's avatar

You know what’s curious about this? I clicked on your link and there was the straightforward replay of Brown’s press conference on the water shortage. I couldn’t figure out what you were talking about, so i repeated the process with the same result. I was going to question you as to what the problem was, but clicked the third time and there was the President instead. I swear, there has to be some sort of genuine infection going around to attribute for the worrying stupidity of people gullible enough to find this sort of sh&t credible. It actually requires an extraordinary dumbing down in the country to allow even those eager to believe the worst of our “demonic ” President to swallow this. How would you even propose a method of reasoning with anyone capable of falling for this?

DWW25921's avatar

@stanleybmanly @ETpro A lot of people take it very seriously and the site was referred to me by a good friend of mine. I don’t like propaganda, (I won’t be visiting again) I like to know what’s actually going on. That’s why I posted the question, and I’m glad I did because now I know. What’s scary to me is there are conflicting bubbles of lies and misinformation on the extreme of both sides. Everything from one group comparing Obama with Hitler and the other calling the Tea Party Racists. Of course that’s a load of bull but I’d sure like to know what’s going on without a spin. Anyway, thanks for your input.

DWW25921's avatar

@bolwerk Is it a “states rights” issue you think? I mean, if the people of the school district approve than it’s really their business… I suppose…

bolwerk's avatar

@DWW25921: If you buy the idea that the First Amendment applies to the states, then not particularly. There is no legal basis for the establishment of a religion, which is why mandatory prayer is more or less out of the question in public schools.

The icky part is free exercise. To the extent that free exercise can be regulated in a school setting, the school would need to show that the regulation meets a legitimate state goal with regard to education (e.g., the exercise would have to interfere with the school’s mission or disrupt other students). I don’t think that’s particularly hard to do in most cases, but there still seems to be an expectation for making reasonable accommodations for conscience. That said, I guess states have pretty wide latitude to decide such questions on their own based on the needs of their own populations.

gorillapaws's avatar

@bolwerk Nailed it. Religion is NOT illegal in school. Students are protected from schools trying to impede their faith. Students currently can pray, wear religious garments, etc. You would see “godless liberals” leaping to the defense of any kid forbidden from praying in school. What is illegal is for the school to endorse a particular faith. They have to respect the beliefs of all students.

This isn’t a state’s rights issue. It’s written into the constitution in the first amendment.

Yetanotheruser's avatar

@DWW25921 is there a REAL “fair and balanced” news organization… anywhere?

It’s getting harder and harder to find it, ever since the the reporting of the news became a profit center for broadcasters, rather than a required public service,

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, he IS a Muslim after all…....

gorillapaws's avatar

@DWW25921 “is there a REAL “fair and balanced” news organization… anywhere?”

I find PBS to be one of the better sources out there for real news.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Dutchess_III “Well, he IS a Muslim after all…....”

He isn’t, but so what if he was?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I was being facetious @Darth_Algar. But I’ll play. If he WAS a Muslim it would still be just as wrong, not to mention illegal.

Darth_Algar's avatar

I had no way to know you were being facetious, and I hear/see the “he’s a Muslim” line quite a lot as if being a Muslim is some kind of evil or criminal status disqualifying him from office.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I know. :) That’s OK. You don’t know me very well yet. But now you know…I’m pro Obama. He was born in Hawaii (which, as everyone knows is a state in Kenya) and his Mom was from Wichita (not far from here) annnd….I think Michelle Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

ragingloli's avatar

There are so many better things than sliced bread.
For example: Freshly baked bread that you slice yourself.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Hell, even if he was born in Kenya his mother was a US citizen, which makes him a natural born US citizen.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Yup @Darth_Algar. However, there are those who would argue that Kansas does not exist, ergo is not part of the US. Those who would argue that are not here, thankfully!

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