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12 year old boy missing for 12 days was found alive in his father's basement. Do you have any thoughts on what was going on here?

Asked by Dutchess_III (46811points) June 26th, 2014

Read the article, and watch the video. Nancy Grace is breaking the news to him on TV.

Do you think his reaction is real?

And why did the mother refuse a polygraph test?

Do you think the kid actually gone all of that time, and snuck back into the basement?

What else do you think about this incident?

The thing that struck me was that the father seemed to have no reaction to the news that his son had been found alive. He only started reacting when he learned they found him in the basement. But then again, there could have been a time lag between the time Nancy Grace said it, and he heard it.

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Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Nope. Don’t give a shit because it’s a million miles away and I hate the screaming, frantic nightmare called Nancy Grace. How can you watch that bullshit? Can’t you see how fucking toxic it is?

Juliasmile's avatar

As soon as I saw the story and saw the father’s reaction I thought, “He did it.”
1. The cadaver dog did not smell the body? Really?? I think because it was not there at the time.
2. The way the father hugged the newscaster. That was really odd since that newscaster had just suggested the father looked guilty.
3. There may have been some time lapse but it seemed longer than should have. Even if it took that long for him to hear the entire statement, he must have at least heard, “your son has been found.” That alone would have merited an amazing reaction.

As for the mother refusing to take a polygraph,... my husband does very little in my home that I’m not aware of, or at least would be suspicious of, so yeah if he did it she knew or helped.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@Espiritus_Corvus I skip over Nancy Grace on TV, because I agree with your assesment. She just happened to be included in this article that caught my eye.

@Juliasmile the cadaver dog did not smell the body because there was no body. The kid was alive and healthy when they found him.

Juliasmile's avatar

Wow I made a big booboo, I thought the child’s body had been found. Sorry, the news feed I watched earlier was incredibly misleading. Feel really silly now, but so glad the child is o.k.

CWMcCall's avatar

My initial impression from the video is this father’s reactions are genuine. The Father maintains that FBI and dogs searched his house and dogs are very thorough so I belive the father was not hiding nor knew of his sons whereabouts. We are talking about a teen or pre-teen boy in war torn Detroit who my guess would be got caught up in some gang related activities for these 10 days and finally came back to his dad’s house to find refuge from the hell he has been living.

Dutchess_III's avatar

That’s a very real possibility @CWMcCall.

JLeslie's avatar

I felt the father’s reaction was real. I think he believed his son was dead. I couldn’t load your link, but I saw him on TV, a short clip of the father, and he didn’t seem to be faking it to me.

Refusing the polygraph doesn’t surprise me because that part of town doesn’t trust the police much. When Jean Bonnet Ramsey was killed the parents cooperated fully, including polygraphs, and the police still pursued the parents and so did much of the media.

chyna's avatar

We can never know how people will react to things like this.
I watch these real life murder shows on TV and one person will cry and the police will say they didn’t act appropriately and the next one will not cry and the police will say that is inappropriate. Who really has an edge on knowing the “appropriate” way to react?

dappled_leaves's avatar

Time to dust off your copy of Camus’ novel, L’Etranger.

Seek's avatar

Is this Balloon Boy’s father again?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I’d forgotten about that @Seek!

Seek's avatar

I wish I could. They were in town a few months ago. The new gimmick is marketing the kids as a heavy metal band. They’ve grown their hair long, and get up on stage and headbang out of time and beat on some guitars and scream a lot. It’s nothing close to music. Also the kids are out of control – mouthing off to everyone in the bar, getting behind the bar and in the bartenders’ way… My husband threatened to cancel a show because the promoter wanted to put them on it.

Awful, awful parents.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Who was in town?

Seek's avatar

Balloon Boy and his brothers and parents.

The “Heene Boyz”.

http://www.heeneboyz.com/

The parents are professional child exploiters.

livelaughlove21's avatar

I’d love to watch it, but Nancy Grace ruins my day.

As for refusing a polygraph test, it means nothing. Polygraph testing isn’t even admissible in court, so I probably wouldn’t do it either. It proves nothing.

jca's avatar

Never watch Nancy Grace, but this case was discussed on The Today Show this morning. Kid was hiding in basement with a mat, food and water. The kid is currently not in dad’s custody, which leads me to believe (I wasn’t paying close attention to the report) that he was taken away by CPS. Step mother was arrested on a parole or probation violation. Kid was hiding because they think he was trying to avoid the dad’s mandate of 4,000 steps per day on stairmaster. Bizarre. Dad didn’t look to be in incredible shape himself, so I don’t get it. I am not following the case as it’s not the most intriguing, but it makes not a whole lot of sense.

livelaughlove21's avatar

Ok, I gave in and watched it. That reaction looked like bad acting to me, but who am I to say he’s lying? Either way, Nancy Grace is still an obnoxious bitch.

Dutchess_III's avatar

You guys I agree with every one’s assessment about Nancy Grace, OK? But this post was not about Nancy Grace, so quit picking at it from that angle.

Thanks for the extra info @jca. The 4,000 steps thing is what an abusive, controlling person would force their kids to do just because they can. Just because they’re bigger and stronger than a kid. It has nothing to do with getting the kid in shape.

But how was the kid able to hide from the dogs they brought in?

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Dutchess_III “You guys I agree with every one’s assessment about Nancy Grace, OK? But this post was not about Nancy Grace, so quit picking at it from that angle.”

Now, now, you know damn well that’s not how the internet works.

jca's avatar

@Dutchess_III: Maybe because they are cadaver sniffing dogs and there was no cadaver, they didn’t pick up on the live human scent.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Good point. But you’d think they’d alert to something…..but IDK.

chyna's avatar

I was thinking that maybe the kid was coming and going and not in the basement when the cops and dogs were there. I don’t know this, just the only thing I could come up with as to why the dogs didn’t find him.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Those were my thoughts too @chyna.

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