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Feta's avatar

Do you think this is even remotely fair?

Asked by Feta (930points) September 8th, 2014 from iPhone

At my school, to run for homecoming you have to have a club to sponsor you.

I’ve been a part of my schools French club since I was a freshman.

I’ve attended every event, every field trip, and every meeting when others did not.

So I always figured if I did run for homecoming I would be sponsored by French Club.

We have to be voted to be a candidate by our class mates.
I have two girls running against me, one of which I believe is in French 1 and this is the first meeting she’s ever attended probably because she just wants to be sponsored, she’ll never come to another meeting after homecoming I guarantee it.

The other I don’t mind so much because we get two candidates and I know she’ll be one because the class is full of her friends.

No one really knows me in the club even though I’ve been there for so long and worked every event.

The girl who just joined to be a candidate isn’t necessarily more popular than me but I feel like the kids in the club are more likely to vote for her because she’s more well known.

I’m considering talking to the teacher about this because I feel it’s grossly unfair that I can be devoted to a club throughout high school and not be sponsored by that club just because that girl decided to join just to run as a candidate.

What do you think?

Unfair?

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26 Answers

rojo's avatar

Fair and unfair, two words I have not used in a long time. What can I tell you? Life is not fair but, then again, neither is it unfair, it doesn’t choose sides; it simply is.

Life is what you make of it and the fairness or unfairness depends solely on your point of view. What is fair to you is unfair from anothers perspective.

It is sad that you are not going to be handed a sponsorship but if it is that important to you then you need to do everything in your power to get it. Fight for it, do whatever it takes to get it, It is entirely on your shoulders.

Feta's avatar

@rojo

I know life isn’t fair.
But that doesn’t mean it always has to be unfair.
I see this as a situation that has a logical outcome, that only the girls who have been in the club or French class the longest should be eligible to run.
I don’t see why my teacher is even considering letting the other girl run when it is blatantly obvious why she has decided to join the club a month before homecoming.

rojo's avatar

@Feta Life is not being unfair. Life simply is. Do you think the other girl thinks it is unfair? Probably not. What are you doing to ensure your position as the homecoming rep?

zenvelo's avatar

Usually when there is an “election” like this, both have to make a pitch to the club. You can stand up and say, “I’ve been a member here since…, and I’ve been to every event and worked for the club.”

I guess I am a little puzzled that you are not known in the club despite having been an active member for a long time.

Good Luck…

Here2_4's avatar

If you don’t learn to stand up and speak on your own behalf, life will eat you alive. Fair is where you go to win blue ribbons, and ride the ferris wheel. Life is where you learn, grow, live. Practice being grown up, and speak up. You seem like a very good girl. I’m sure if you speak up it will make all the difference.

cheebdragon's avatar

Seems unfair that you need to have a club behind you, but life is shitty like that sometimes.

I wish I had these kinds of problems. Being an adult sucks.

fluthernutter's avatar

Fair or unfair is almost a moot point in this situation.

If the people in your class don’t know who you are, chances are most of the people in your school don’t know who you are either. Homecoming is a popularity contest. Doesn’t sound like you’ve got much of a shot. Unless your French club is in its own social bubble?

kritiper's avatar

That’s the way the cookie crumbles in junior and senior high school, and in life. Better get used to it!

trailsillustrated's avatar

No. It is in no way shape or form, fair. Get over it. Rise above. This will not be the first time or the last that you have encountered unfairness. It certainly is not fair. The end result is how you handle it. (from a female dentist and pilot)

ragingloli's avatar

Welcome to politics. Get used to it.

Feta's avatar

I’m not trying to be prejudiced but French club literally is in it’s own social bubble because it’s comprised of Mexican kids who think it’s uncool to hang out with white kids.
They literally flock together everywhere.

The reason they don’t really know me is because I’m a senior and they’re all sophomores or juniors.

They also don’t know me despite me being active in the club because they never do ANYTHING in the club.
They only show up for the meeting about when we’re taking a field trip and you never see them afterwards.

Feta's avatar

Please stop saying “get used to it” and “life’s not fair” as if I’m a child throwing a tantrum.
It’s really rude. I honestly come to Fluther because I expect well thought out, mature answers.
Lately all I’ve been getting is snottiness.

Homecoming is different at my school.
It isn’t so much about popularity.
No one really cares if they win.

All of my friends are doing it and we’re all pretty much losers. We’re just doing it for the memories.
Underclassmen don’t know most of the girls anyway and they’re the ones voting.
It usually comes down to whoever they thought had the best dress.

canidmajor's avatar

Given your last two posts, I’m not sure what you want, here. No, it’s not remotely fair. Does this surprise you? The tone of your details sounds to me like you’re a bit outraged by the unfairness. Have you not noticed, after four years in high school, that things are likely to be unfair? Some of your previous questions and posts would indicate that you have.

So, exactly, what sort of response are you seeking?

And, out of curiosity, why do you want to run for homecoming? (I went to a school that did not have homecoming, so I am curious about the benefits, here.)

jca's avatar

Life is not fair but that’s not the answer you seek.

You will find that throughout life, good things may come to the popular people and many times it’s not what you know, it’s who you know. The biggest example I can think of is jobs. The job may not go to the best qualified, but to the relative of the big shot at the company or the friend of someone at the company.

Go talk to the teacher who runs French Club. Explain to her what you told us here. Tell her your reasons why you should get the sponsorship and the others should not. Hopefully the teacher will be receptive to what you have to say. At the very least, maybe in the future the rules will change based upon your points.

Good Luck and please let us know how it goes.

KNOWITALL's avatar

I Say go all out! Talk to the teacher, lobby your French club, put up posters with your pic & a catchy slogan.

gailcalled's avatar

I don’t even know what “running for homecoming” means?

Your many questions about your HS experiences seem to indicate deeper problems…well beyond any advice I have. You had a similarly unfair or unresponsive teacher/sponser in the yearbook club, if I remember correctly. You also alluded to the really “vicious” girls in your school and your feeling very down-in-the-dumps on many occasions.

livelaughlove21's avatar

This is about being homecoming queen. There’s nothing “fair” about it, whatever that means. It’s a popularity contest – that’s it. What did you expect?

I wouldn’t go whining to a teacher about it. It’s just school – in a few years, none of this will even matter to you. Trust me, this is one of the least unfair things that’ll ever happen to you. C’est la vie.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Welcome to life. Fair? Laughs.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Feta You deserve a lot more than that sarcastic answer. Life goes in directions we really can’t understand on the basis of fair or unfair. Sometime the biggest bitch wins the election. Did she deserve it? Probably not. But at the end of the day, can you look in the mirror and say I did what was right and my best effort?

deni's avatar

Talk to the teacher like you said. No, I don’t think that’s fair. At the same time that girl knows what she’s doing is wrong and karma will get her in the end, rest assured.

stanleybmanly's avatar

21 answers so far all attesting to the fact that the election for homecoming queen is the paradigm example of politics in action. The pretense may be there that the contest is about merit or ability, but the reality is that nothing could be further from the truth. It’s a popularity contest with all the depth one might expect from a beauty pageant. It’s a lesson that should serve you well for the rest of your days. Don’t waste your time or tax your dignity by whining to your teacher about the injustice involved. Your teacher’s very job itself is but a brutal exercise on the rigors of injustice. Better to concentrate on scholarly pursuits, and leave the vacuous nonsense to the bimbos. It’s their battlefield, and you don’t stand a chance if you aren’t one of them.

Here2_4's avatar

What I believe is not fair, is asking a question of a community devoted to providing the most helpful answers they can, and then bashing those who cared enough to answer your question. Not only is it not fair, it is childish and impertinent. May you get this homecoming position you seek. I hope it serves to comfort you all the remaining days of your life.

jca's avatar

I think also, don’t go through life feeling resentful and upset about opportunities that passed you over because they were not handled fairly. Get over them and move on. Many things will not be handled fairly, yet your life will be so much more trouble-free if you don’t get caught up in resentments.

cheebdragon's avatar

It’s very difficult to treat you like a adult when the topic of your question is honestly very childish. Do you know what being homecoming queen will do for you as an adult? Absolutely nothing. There isn’t an adult in the world who cares about homecoming nominations. There is no glory in the real world for people who were popular in high school, because when you have to worry about bills, kids, rent, jobs and all the other shit that comes with being an adult, you don’t get a lot of free time to think about who the fuck was prom queen in high school.

JLeslie's avatar

I didn’t even know clubs had to sponsor homecoming candidates, I wonder if it was like that in my school?

Talk to your teacher and state your case! Maybe there is some sort of solution that will give you a shot at running. Possibly they will allow two candidates from one club.

Another option is to join another club and get their endorsement. Basically, play the game the way the game is set up.

You might not get what you think is fair, but if you at least speak up you won’t have to wonder what might have happened if you just opened your mouth. Talk to your teacher without strong emotions if you can. Just state the facts and say something along the lines of wanting the opportunity to try.

They might not change the rules for you, but your input might change things for the future.

I understand your dissappointment. I spent several months in therapy as a teen partly dealing with how unfair life can be.

jca's avatar

If you really want it, make an effort instead of thinking about how unfair it is. Speak up.

At least, in the future, you won’t feel like you didn’t try your best.

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