Does this article amount to anything, about you, the state of affairs, and the State?

That is a gross misrepresentation of what Oppositional Defiant Disorder is. A link to the actual DSM-IV criteria may be a good start. You can also see the changes between the latest version and the new one, note that there’s essentially no difference.

So, is “nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness”? I’d say manifestly not. Note that, despite the article’s picture, you must meet a significantly higher bar than “arguing with authority” to be labeled with ODD. It’s an extended pattern of aggressive actions, and it has to cause “clinically significant impairment in social, academic, or occupational functioning” and “more frequently than is typically observed in individuals of comparable age and developmental level”, so pathologizing teenagers this also is not. Being annoyed or argumentative is not a mental illness. Being constantly upset, touchy, argumentative, and violent for half a year, so much so that you can’t work in society? That is a mental illness. Freethinking that is not.

Also also, this is very typically a child’s disorder, not adults. It’s for excessively hostile children. Also, again, I’ve checked and this has changed very little from DSM-III, which makes this freakout a little disingenuous. It used to be:

A pattern, for at least six months, of disobedient, negativistic, and provocative
opposition to authority figures, as manifested by at least two of
the following symptoms:
(1) violations of minor rules
(2) temper tantrums
(3) argumentativeness
(4) provocative behavior
(5) stubbornness

If anything, the new rules are more stringent (you must meet four criteria instead of two) and far more specific to particular behaviors, making it less likely to be diagnosed.

Also also also, there is no medication for ODD! Current treament is talk therapy of various kinds. Again, grossly, grossly misrepresented.

Also, in general, anything that quotes Natural News as a legit source is not going to go well.

Also, just to say, looking over the article more fully, claiming that this is a ‘new’ disorder when it has existed since at least 1980 (when the DSM-III was published), as well as claiming this is evidence of ‘overmedicalization’ when there are no medications prescribed for ODD is incredibly dishonest. I figured those two things out within minutes on google, and only a few more to find that the details of the disorder vary greatly from the way they’re presented. I recommend a different source for your psychology news in the future.

I have no faith or trust in Psychologists or Psychiatrists and certainly would not put my mental health in their hands.

@BhacSsylan
Thank you, I don’t know when I can get back, but I will. It’s ultimately up the the doctors as long as they tick the correct boxes for the insurance. A doctor might have an affinity for the older version, the insurance will not. I will get back. The countries that use the IDC have criticised it, many in the APA also. Would you be opposed to looking at some Psychology Today articles? There are 3 or 4 that I’ve pulled up on this.
Now you are towing the line, it sounds boorish. “Be nice, take drugs, and how are you feeling by the way?” It’s a formality.Though you put it well. Damn sorry about that. I’m not anti-science I’m anti-dependency on the system. What They do and say are at odds. It does not make an independent person it’s a charge of the State.
Making more criterion then requiring more to be ticked off need to be met does no good especially if the wording is changed. I could be in error.
It is a freak-out and should be as, soon the crazies will outnumber the sane. If that is not the case already. Practice is different than the book, I’m sure you know. Children are being medicated with off label drugs. I will go off my meds is that is not true. I want more, I have to look something up. I’ll be gone for a month maybe less. If it’s alright with you.
And I say to Hell with functioning in society, not all homeless are mentally ill e.g.

Better if we wrap it up. I’ll just say it, I believe you have the wrong values.

I work with emotions, they amp my endocrine system better than meth.

Yet, that’s not why we are all here.

This is personal to me, me, me.

If anyone wishes the articles could be pulled by:

Phycology Today DSM-5 controversy

@BhacSsylan I overlooked your second post, I get my source from experience. You are either very good at this, or are part of this. Remember how people looked back in horror at the insulin shock, cold water, lobotomies. In 50 years, this hmm.. indignation will repeat itself.

Personally, the piece read more like a personal rant based on obsolete information than a well-reasoned, well written article. Plus, his constant reference to DSM-IV is a concern to me. By the time the article was published on line, the DSM-IV had already been updated via both DSM-IV® and DSM-IV (TR).

So I don’t put any faith in his opinions. With any website like The Mind Unleashed, the primary question to be investigated is: who is running/supporting it?

it is because the medical community uses half-truths, obfuscation, sins of omission, coercion and other evasive speech. So yeah a few of us are pissed. Do you know what tardive dyskinesia, dystonia, and akathesia is? Well I have it badly. I never heard a word about it. Now when I ask a doctor or nurse about it they will not even let the words pass their lips. Imagine if you were a cancer patient (yes I’ve gone through it with another) you go to your oncologist and he’s upbeat acts like this will dramatically improve your life, but never tells you about the side effects. When asked he dodges the question. Ask a nurse and they don’t have the authority so they stonewall. Taking neuroleptics is like chemo for life. I cannot argue properly the symptoms and meds have taken that away. I glean information but cannot remember the details or source. The people like doctors have to much knowledge for me, they can jump from one fact to the next negating anything I say. People say it’s a cop out.
Now I will assert this again we live in squalor, financed by… well you. We live in communal housing and after rent have $20 discretionary money left over. The social worker comes, she’s going to get you back on your feet. Funny that her clients become so dependent on her they ask for everything, constant reassurance, constantly highlighting their “accomplishments”.
As I hinted before it looks good on paper but in practice it’s killing the human spirit. Some go to the ER just for the attention.
Look I’m over this, I’m sorry for it all. I just want sleep. And I WILL find rest.
yes I’m locked and loaded, I don’t want ambiguous speech I get enough of that. But I have to put my dog down first. And familial duties come first. Do not follow these icons of healing.
“I don’t fuck much with the past, but a fuck a lot with the future.” -Patti Smith

@sahID our population will grow, not only because of a book, but because there is a crisis in the western world. I think whoever I addressed first is a bold-faced liar. PM me if you want other little gothic tales. bye.