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talljasperman's avatar

It’s their loss and not his problem .

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

There is a lot I can say, however, if he represents the greater obese people ion the us, then we have way too many depressed people here in the US. My second thought, was if it were any other thing he would definitely do something about it if he could, such as his teeth falling out, losing his hair, breaking out in nasty boils, or if he were losing pigmentation in his skin, he would not just do more of the condition bringing the problem simply because someone noticed in a negative way.

anniereborn's avatar

I think it’s great that he is at least trying to do something about his condition. And I think it’s good he is raising awareness.
@Hypocrisy_Central I too am medically considered obese, and it most certainly stems from my depression/PTSD.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ The answer is to put every obese person on psych meds or send them to the shrink’s couch and the US will get remarkably slimmer?

anniereborn's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Yeh, I only wish. I do both. And, by the way, I was only talking about myself. Not sure how that suddenly encompasses “everyone in the US”.

Coloma's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Are you serious? It’s a lot easier to lose weight than to change a crappy personality. Many factors factor in to weight gain. I have gained weight in my middle age and am now, right now, being tested by an endocrinologist for Cushings and other other hormone related issues.

I have a tumor on one of my adrenal glands that was discovered in an unrelated CT scan a few months ago and I have gained about 40 lbs. in the last few years after decades of being in amazing shape.
Be careful judging others unless you have all the facts. Not every overweight person is some depressed mental case.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@anniereborn I was only talking about myself. Not sure how that suddenly encompasses “everyone in the US”.
I was just clarifying if you were echoing what it seems he is saying that he eats because someone spoke negatively about him being fat. Also in the video he seemed, at least to me, to say that being fat has more to do with some condition such as depression than just being greedy with food and not moving those bones enough. If I were to go off that premise, then nearly all obese people are that way because it is a byproduct of something, and that ”something” therefore, needs to be treated so then the person won’t be overeating.

@Coloma Be careful judging others unless you have all the facts. Not every overweight person is some depressed mental case.
I am not judging, I am trying to find a connection to why people are fat and if they believe it is due to something they can’t control, genetics, mental illness, some other medical problem. When I was fat, I know why I was fat; I eat everything in sight and was too lazy to get my bones moving. When I got tired of moving up in waist sizes, and not being able to see my toes when I got out of the shower, I did not diet, did not know how anyway, and surely would not have stuck to one. I did know hoe to do ”pushouts” at the dinner table. Even if I felt I wanted another scoop of those great spuds, slathered with butter, I refrained from doing so, and passing on the cake. I am just trying to see if I am unique in that or other can do it if they wanted to bad enough.

anniereborn's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central “I am just trying to see if I am unique in that or other can do it if they wanted to bad enough.”

I think you’d have to ask every overweight person in the US. I am sure you would get a million different answers.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@anniereborn I think you’d have to ask every overweight person in the US. I am sure you would get a million different answers.
That I am sure of, the prevailing theme seems to be ”I can’t help it”, or ”I am still fit”. People seem to have forgotten simple biology, and I was far from perfect in that, but I did remember, it is not what you eat it is what you keep. You can eat anything so long as you spend the calories. Granted some have a harder time spending calories, but they can do so if they want to make the extra effort. I did not know how much I was going to have to spend to lose the fat, but I did not have to get as big as him to know I wasn’t happy with what the mirror showed me and I for dang sure was not just goihng to put up with it.

whitenoise's avatar

I think that he misses the opportunity to bend the genuine concerns people may have into supportive approaches. True friends that worry about each others health should be able to express their concerns.

Anyways… Obesity is a sincere problem and shaming people isn’t the answer. The problem still needs to be addressed, though. The US has a lot more obesity than other countries. It seems therefore to me that lifestyle does drive a lot of the obesity problems with many people. As does the cost of healthy food vs the cost and accessibility of ‘bad food’.

Coloma's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central

There are many factors that contribute to overweight. Personality/ temperament with extroverts who, being gregarious with a thirst for life tend to have hearty appetites. There is sedentary lifestyles, many people sitting 8+ hours a day at desk jobs. There are genetics, many people are simply more prone to their bodies wanting to stay on the heavier side inspite of effort.

There is stress and the Cortisol issue, a hormone produced in the adrenal glands that when over produced due to stress or wonky endocrine issues like I am experiencing, leads to weight gain in the trunk of the body/belly area.
Then, or course, their are poor choices in diet, depression and other emotional issues and, last but not least, we all know how easy it is to out on some weight and how hard it is to get it off.
I spent most of my life in a state of hunger, sticking to about 1,500 calories a day, walking/jogging 3 miles a day 6 days a week, doing weight and floor routines and riding my horse on 10 mile trails once or twice a week. I fucking KILLED myself to keep a fighting weight of around 124–26 lbs. pretty much all muscle on my petite 5’3 frame.

At 55 now I simply don’t give a damn about working my ass off to stay in amazing, head turning shape anymore.
I am looking forward to getting my adrenal issues worked out as I am sure this, along with middle age, has contributed to some weight gain the last few years but I will never be pounding the pavement the way I once did, counting every calorie that goes into my body.
Overweight people carry their struggles, whatever they are, on their sleeves for the world to see but how many closet perverts, drug addicts, alcoholics, shopaholics, angry assholes and others with major issues have them neatly concealed behind a fit and trim body?
Plenty.

There is no one size fits all when it comes to the myriad reasons people pack on the pounds.

flo's avatar

Thank you all.

I didn’t watch the whole thing but I got the message. No need to be hostile abusive about it.

@whitenoise You wrote “True friends that worry about each others health should be able to express their concerns.“I don’t think he’s referring to true friends who are expressing their concerns with sensitivity.

whitenoise's avatar

@Flo
He talks how he loses a friend over the issue. You might be right, however, that was also my impression.

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