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NerdyKeith's avatar

Scientifically speaking, how much longer could the human race survive before extinction?

Asked by NerdyKeith (5489points) February 26th, 2016

Or would we ever become extinct even after billions of years down the line? Are there limits to how adaptable we are as a species?

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stanleybmanly's avatar

How would anyone come up with a “scientific” answer to such a question? You can dial up a psychic or consult your dog, and an opinion from either would be equally probable.

NerdyKeith's avatar

@stanleybmanly Based on probability and based on causes in the environment which have caused other species to go extinct.

Coloma's avatar

Impossible to say but nuclear war and/or bio-warfare aside, and not considering potential natural disasters like Volcanic eruptions ( Yellowstones volcano could wipe out the sun for easily 40 years if it blows ) meteors like the one that wiped out the Dinosaurs, global warming, the teeming masses, drought/water shortages and agricultural challenges, it seems to me a famine could be a strong possibility.

If we can’t sustain the farming industry we are screwed. Deplete the land, lack of water, = no food. This is why people should be growing their own now, in whatever capacity they have. backyard gardens, chicken raising, potato boxes. Don’t count on the Ag. industry to keep you fed forever.

Seek's avatar

That’s a hard thing to put a number on, but we’ve done a lot in the last quarter of a million years. I’m willing to bet we’re more a firecracker than an oil lamp, if you follow me.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@NerdyKeith “Based on probability and based on causes in the environment which have caused other species to go extinct.”

Species go extinct because they cannot adapt to new and changing conditions. If anything, we humans have proven ourselves to be extremely adaptable as a species.

stanleybmanly's avatar

@NerdyKeith Asteroid strike or catastophic episodes of vulcanism, even instabilities in solar output. There are just too many random things we can’t really nail down. The asteroid strike WILL happen, but when? The world itself has a finite and predictable lifetime determined by the length of time left for our star on the main sequence. If we as a species haven’t found a way off this rock by then, we don’t deserve to continue. For my money the propbability of our own self destuction as opposed to “natural” catastrophe, grows exponentially as we advance technically. But who knows?

Vincentt's avatar

Scientifically speaking? Then the answer is: it’s impossible to tell.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Scientifically speaking: indefinitely. The key word is could not will. I have said it before, if we can adapt and spread off world we live but if we never learn to get off this rock we are doomed.

rojo's avatar

Just ran the numbers and it looks like 53 days.

I could be off by several factors of 10 though: I need to recheck my figures but wanted to get the results out now so folks could make plans. Just in case…......

Coloma's avatar

@rojo That’s just great, so you mean I just spent $1,200 on something that won’t be signed, sealed and delivered until after doomsday. Figures! lol

kritiper's avatar

I figure less than 250 years. I base this on climate change, overpopulation, food shortages, declining fresh water supplies, sickness and disease, MRSA type infections brought on by the rapidly accelerating uselessness of antibiotics, declining life expectancies, and war.

Soubresaut's avatar

In the conversations I’ve heard about potential-future-human-extinction, people usually look around the universe and say “well, if it’s so easy to survive, where is everyone?” (a slight variation on the Fermi paradox, which asks “if life is so common where is everyone?”) They assume life is easy enough to start, but difficult to sustain. They sketch a scenario where life, once started, reaches some stage like our own and then kills itself. The whole ‘we’ll destroy ourselves’ answer to human extinction.

But there’s a new theory published (or at least a new discussion of an older theory) of what is called a “Gaian bottleneck.” I’ll link you to the phys.org page that gives a light summary of it; a link to the journal article is found at the end, though I haven’t had time myself to get very far into the actual article at all.

Basically, the theory suggests that life on earth has already passed the most difficult part of its evolution:

”‘Most early planetary environments are unstable. To produce a habitable planet, life forms need to regulate greenhouse gases such as water and carbon dioxide to keep surface temperatures stable.’

“About four billion years ago Earth, Venus and Mars may have all been habitable. However, a billion years or so after formation, Venus turned into a hothouse and Mars froze into an icebox.” (While life on Earth successfully stablized Earth’s atmosphere.)

So it’s not a direct answer to your question, just a vague optimism. Life made Earth habitable back when life was beginning, and we’ve just got to maintain it. I think that’s a pretty cool idea.

No natural disaster to this point in Earth’s history has wiped out all existing life. Since humans are found basically anywhere there is land, I think it would take quite a natural disaster to wipe us all out entirely, one like Earth hasn’t yet seen.

That said, we will eventually lose the oxygen in Eath’s atmosphere (at least, so said some end-of-earth nat geo show I saw a while back). And some billion years later the sun, as it dies, will disintegrate Earth back into smaller components. So it goes back to the whole ‘we can only live as long as the Earth does, unless we go elsewhere.’

I had an anthro professor who suggested that when you look at how poorly our genus has survived (we’re the last of it), it’s only a matter of time until we’re gone.

And (if I remember my earth-creation-shows well enough) the bacteria that originally produced the atmosphere the rest of us enjoy suffocated itself in its own byproducts. In a way, then, the theory of life-destroys-itself exists simultaneously with the theory of life-sustains-itself. So really, who knows?

janbb's avatar

I’m beginning to think there will be colonization of other planets once we are through using up this one. Personally, I’m finding it psychologically healthy not to worry beyond my grandsons’ lifetimes.

Coloma's avatar

@janbb Yep, no use worrying from beyond the grave, it will just lead to getting to the grave even faster. haha

Here2_4's avatar

Do you mean just the humans on this planet only, or all?
Too many variables.

CWOTUS's avatar

No other sentient species on this planet has the capability – as far as we know – to know as much about the planet’s – and the Universe’s – history and resources, to adapt those resources to serve its own ends, and to predict what may happen outside the planet’s own biosphere. For all of their supposed intelligence – which I don’t doubt – dolphins and other cetaceans don’t have telescopes to understand geophysics, and certainly cannot launch exploratory – maybe someday “colonizing” – missions to other planets. Or even to find those planets, if they exist.

So the answer is “indefinite”, but with qualifications:
1. If we can’t produce vastly better – and faster – space transport and life support systems than we now do, on a scale that we haven’t even dreamed of yet, outside of space opera movies and television, then we as a species can’t launch those colonizing missions, either.
2. If we can’t even understand global economics any better than we do so far, and practice what we preach regarding sustainability, re-use and recycling, then whatever we do develop along those lines is going to be used up and empty by the time it gets where it needs to be, and the supposed colonists would have consumed each other in a space-based Donner Party orgy.
3. If we don’t focus our attention on the top two items, then politically we’ll still be arguing about petty differences and trying to fund homeless shelters and soup kitchens even when we have a “date certain” that the Meteor of Death is due to hit the planet and wipe out the species.

So, given all that, indefinite, but the smart money is betting on an early extinction – and not planning to have the bet paid off when it “wins”.

SecondHandStoke's avatar

We are all inevitably fucked. No matter how wide we might be able to spread ourselves across the Universe.

Eventually, as the Universe expands it will become so opaque that reality itself will have nothing left to hold it’s existence in place.

All information, light, gravity even time will have nothing through witch it can travel.

Everything will begin to fall apart at the atomic, and beyond, level.

Even if humans evolve into a state of pure energy we will still pass into nothingness.

Enjoy your latte.

NerdyKeith's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 Omg we better start on our bucket lists so haha

Coloma's avatar

I guess this means I can quit dieting and exercising now, bring on the beer and cheesecake. lol

SecondHandStoke's avatar

^ Better get a move on before the beer, cheesecake, table on witch you set it, even the time required to savor it vanishes.

flutherother's avatar

If the human race survives it will evolve until we can no longer recognise our descendants if we saw them face to face.

Seek's avatar

^ Nor would we be able to breed with them. Yay, speciation!

ucme's avatar

How long is a piece of string?
Or enough rope to hang ourselves with?

Strauss's avatar

You might as well ask, “How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop?” The world may never know!

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