Is banning the so called Burkini a good idea?

It’s overkill. As the designer has said, women who want to protect their skin (see Nigela Lawson comment here) or who just feel uncomfortable wearing skimpier swimwear also wear these items. And the name is just a play on words. A combination of Burqa and Bikini. Some would spell it Burqini. The clothing covers their body, not their face, and as such I don’t see why women who choose to wear it, shouldn’t be able to wear it. I can see how covering the face could be seen as a security risk in some circumstances, but not in this case.

As ever, I marvel that anyone thinks that the solution to the oppression of telling women what they must wear is to tell them what they must not wear. Just leave women the fuck alone.

If any woman is in such a powerless position as to be incapable of deciding not to wear a specific garment, then banning that garment simply means that they cannot go out in public to wear that garment. It does not mean that they suddenly become free to go out in public without that garment. How can anyone not understand this? These kinds of bans make women less free, not more free. I am forced to conclude that those who suggest these bans are not actually in favour of making women more free – they are in favour of even greater oppression.

It’s just prejudice. I have worked doors at clubs before where dress code involved ‘no loose fitting clothes, no saggy jeans, no jerseys etc.’ The reason was clear, no black people…...

I personally don’t like exclusionary thinking.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, France has a totally different outlook on secularism and religious freedom than the USA and Canada. They seem to feel that state imposed secularism is important to the hegemony of French culture – a pot in which all differences are melted down. Like @dappled_leaves, I feel it reinforces the oppression of women; now Muslim women can’t go to the beach? How does that help anyone?

Oh, and as for the term, it was trade-marked by the Muslim woman who invented and designed the swimming costume for Muslim women. I think it’s quite clever.

No it’s a freakin’ stupid move by a ridiculous person who should not be in government.

Isolating/ostracizing normal Muslims is a great technique for helping terrorist recruiters.

It must feel like going to the beach in a wet suit, but if that’s what you want to do I don’t have problem with it. In a free country you should be free to celebrate your religion, or lack of it, as you see fit as long as you cause no harm to others.

they were on some public beach no one would ban that. If the French, who seem to be more enlightened, and lest disingenuous are acting that way, I can imagine what it would be like here in the US.

@Hypocrisy_Central Read some articles. Several towns in France have banned them from being worn on public beaches. That is the issue we’re discussing.

I agree it’s absurd to ban it. It’s only in one city though (Cannes). There are thousands of beaches in France where you can wear it.

@olivier5 I believe other towns have followed suit. And what if Cannes is the beach you live near? Can you imagine if the US banned Hassidic or Amish women from wearing dresses on the beach?

Yeah. This is a slippery slope.

Indeed it’s spreading fast. 11 municipalities are now banning it from their beaches, most of them around Nice. I stand corrected.

I agree it’s a bad idea. Not sure it’s even legal.

With the weight I have put on over the last 4–5 years, something like that may be just what I need!

Thank you all. It’s unaunanimous and it’s correct of course.
Like Trump for president, idea it only helps recruiters to radicalize people.
Did the 9/11 bombers for example go around wearing traditional muslim garb?
Are strippers etc. at the top of the list of most free/secular people since they bear evrything?

@Earthbound_Misfit ”...the name is just a play on words. A combination of Burqa and Bikini.” I know it’s meant to be but there is nothing bikini-sh or burqa-ish about the outft. The head and neck and part forehead covering is more hijab-ish, and Burqua is covers everything, including the face, and the clothing is wide /loose not tight fitting like this outfit.

I am gonna go against the grain here, but yes, I think they should ban the burqini…. My opinion and I stand with it :) Cannes is smart for banning it.

@SecondHandStoke You could be the victim of a terrorist act, right at the place you’re enjoying your wine (at the club as in Indonesia or France, Orlando, ....) or on your way back and forth in the train car.

France is home and one of the birthplaces of so many innovators of fashion & design (as well as Italy). They don’t hide or cover women there. Fashion is meant to be shown, worn & loved. That is the philosophy. Women are seen as beautiful and not to be “hidden”. Cannes is also an extremely beautiful place. The “Burqini” has no place or business in Cannes as far as I’m concerned.

You guys can argue with me all you want, or state your opinion, mine isn’t changing. YES they should ban the burqini.

@FlutherBug your post doesn’t address what was in all the posts above.

@flo

Question on Fluther : Is banning the so called Burkini a good idea?

My Answer: Yes they should ban the burkini

And yes I completely agree with the mayor of Cannes that the burqini is extremism.

@flo

Oh, I have indeed been the victim of a terrorist act.

I’m reminded of this every time I wait in line to take an airliner flight, to be questioned, scanned, patted down and partially stripped.

I have been to France. I have friends that were born & raised in France. I’ve been to Cannes also. It’s extremely beautiful.

The burqini has absolutely NO business in France in my opinion.

I am glad they banned it.

Cannes is also VERY well known for glamour, luxury, fashion, beauty, entertainment, etc. not something I’d wanna associate with a burkini ;)

@FlutherBug and @SecondHandStoke Your posts work for the no do not ban side, whether you see it or not.