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Trumpers and anti-Trumpers alike, who does Andrew Coyne of the National Post remind you of?

Asked by flo (13313points) September 13th, 2016

Is there another writer or broadcaster who he reminds you of? And what do you think of the article?
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-media-presenting-a-false-balance-between-clinton-and-trump

*”...yes, the press is trying to be even-handed — that’s the problem. For they are presenting as equivalents two candidates who manifestly are not: a practice known as “false balance.
This is the particular dilemma of covering Trump, or any candidate so clearly unfit for office. There is no getting around this. There’s a version of Trump that his supporters have in their heads who is merely “controversial”: a little rough around the edges, maybe politically incorrect, but a straight talker who’s willing to face down the special interests, etc. But that’s not who Trump is.

He’s not just lacking in relevant experience: his whole career is a series of failures, frauds and lawsuits. He is not just untutored in public policy: he lacks the most basic understanding of it. He is not just dishonest: he lies more often than he tells the truth, so often that he seems genuinely unaware of the distinction. He is not just coarse: he has poured forth a stream of vulgarity, insults and open racism never before witnessed in a candidate for president. And so on.

It would simply be untruthful to report on such a candidate as if he were like any other. There is no way to normalize Trump, and we shouldn’t. I realize that will strike some readers as biased. There is no getting around that, either. Reasonable people can differ, but so can unreasonable. At some point elementary judgment enters into it.

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BellaB's avatar

Interesting. Given that he writes for Canada’s most right-wing national paper, that’s harsh.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I don’t know that he reminds me of anyone, but I agree with every word of his take onTrump.

SmashTheState's avatar

@BellaB Trump’s thuggish alt-right populism is virulently opposed to the neo-liberal elitism which Andrew Coyne and the National Pest for whom he works represent. What happened is the neo-liberals have been hoist on their own petard. For an entire generation the neo-liberals have been harnessing the power of stupid by seizing control of the mass media through people like Rupert Murdoch. They’ve deliberately sabotaged the educational system to prevent people from learning how to think, and then celebrated the value of ignorance while convincing the stupid that “experts” know no more than anyone else. In this way they were able to conquer the world.

But now the monster they created has broken free of its restraints and is rampaging around at random, destroying everything which crosses its path. The neo-liberals failed to recognize that once they removed people’s capacity for understanding their own best interests, they lost all the hold they had over them. We now have a planet full of utter morons living in the most astounding sort of delusions, but who have been turned into an effective political force.

It would be hilarious to witness but for the fact that I have to live on the same fucking planet.

janbb's avatar

^ Boy, those so-called “neo-liberals” sure have had a lot of power!!

flo's avatar

@BellaB But it’s not harsh. Isn’t the whole point of the article that the difference between Clinton and and Trump has nothing to do with left wing versus right wing.

@SmashTheState According to Never Trump ers no matter what, even considering electing someone who said:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/

http://www.gq.com/story/176-reasons-donald-trump-shouldnt-be-president-olbermann

BellaB's avatar

Saying that there is no way to normalize Trump is harsh coming from a right-wing writer.

flo's avatar

@BellaB I believe you wrote that in your fist post, the only difference is are the words newspaper and writer Is it harsh for a right winger to say no to for example a pedophile for a teacher?

BellaB's avatar

Andrew Coyne and the National Post are noted for supporting right-wing positions and personalities regardless of how reprehensible and / or ridiculous they are. Not supporting Mr. Trump wholeheartedly is not what I expect from Mr. Coyne or the NP.

flo's avatar

@BellaB
1)I think you’re saying right wing=evil left wing =angel. Both are supposed to be on the same side. I mentioned Never Trump ers in my post before last.

2)So, are you saying if a writer or a newspaper or whatever else, happen to be on the wrong a lot, they should continue??? Why can’t a newspaper a writer/s start seeing the light? are the degree and kind of right-wingy-ness of the NP and Andrew Coyne are not the similar? What reprehensible/ridiculous are you referring to, and do you have a link to an article?

3)What reprehensible/ridiculous are you referring to, and do you have a link to articles? Just curious.

flo's avatar

….Edit above: I meant:
Are the degree and kind of right-wingy-ness of the NP and Andrew Coyne similar?

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