Should Trump or any man be sued for not asking permission before a kiss?

It depends on the circumstance

It’s a whole lot different if it is someone you know, who perhaps you are dating, versus a person you have just met and who is a public figure.

As @ARE_you_kidding_me suggested, it’s all about context.

But the rule of thumb is that a kiss (or a hug, or squeeze, or a pinch) is in an invasion of one’s personal space. Civilized people don’t invade that sort of personal space without an OK. The only ones who would do so are (a) people who don’t care about society norms, or (b) people who feel entitled to ignore these norms.

Which one is Trump?

@elbanditoroso I agree that kissing someone you just met is against social norms. But I wondered if a lawsuit might be overreacting or appropriate.
What do you mean, “which one is Trump?” He is the one who wears neckties; Hillary is the one who wears pantsuits and earrings.

Yes, either a law suit or pressing criminal charges for battery.

Absolutely.

If it garners publicity and publicity is what you’re after.

In the real world?

No.

I’ll guaran-goddamn-tee you that if anyone grabbed, groped, or otherwise touched Donald Trump in a manner uninvited and unwanted, then he’d be all over pressing assault charges against them.

I’ve slapped men so they are under no illusion that their unwanted physical attention is a breach in etiquette. Women should do it more.

If a person kissed me without permission they should expect a fist to the nose or a knee to the groin.

@Seek lol So if you were at a nice party and you were introduced to an attractive man and he gave you a brief kiss you’d punch him in the nose even though it might spill blood on the hostess’ carpet and break up the party? Wow; you sound like a female wrestler!
I do not know why but I have never punched a man in the face. Maybe I’m the exception and men are being punched in the nose all over America as we speak.

I have had to punch two men in self defense.

No.

He should be slapped, or at least told not to do it (what if the man just doesn’t read the woman’s behaviour well? I don’t refer to Trump specifically) not sued.There is difference between someone kissing you for not understanding social cues or being a douchebag and trying to attack you.

@cazzie I wish I had thought of it a few times. But even if I had wanted to punch them I doubt I could have brought myself to do it. Maybe because my mother wasn’t the punching type. Not sure.
Once was on the well lit dance floor of a local dance club. All I did was yell at him. I was ashamed of being such a sissy. But, then , he had been drinking and he might have decked me and they could have called the cops and/or an ambulance. I didn’t want that to happen. I was very much loving being there with the exception of that idiot.

@Aster The punches were proceeded by actual violence from them, not just a feel up or unwanted kiss. The men on dance floors or at pubs got pushed or slapped and told off. It doesn’t happen anymore. Benefits of being an old hag now. Now I get hassled for being a foreigner. Not quite as strait forward to defend against.

@Aster

Fault the man in question for the unwanted advance, not @Seek for the absolutely justified punch. People need to respect other people’s boundaries, personal space and body autonomy.

@cazzie Hahaha!! Benefits of being an old hag. Yes; I know what you mean . There are actually a handful of benefits. Not too many. It’s comforting knowing you will not be hit on anymore, day and night, everywhere you go with the exception of by dirty appearing, half drunk , fuzzy faced younger guys toting six packs of beer out to their bashed in trucks. That just doesn’t do a thing for my ego. I think, “you’re kidding, right?”

If anyone, attractive or not, violated my body autonomy, they should expect to be violated right back.

I am really surprised with all the women who claim Donald Trump violated their body autonomy not one punched him in the face. Even the one who claims he put his hand all the way up her dress simply changed seats on the airplane. Heck; she didn’t even scream. Knowing me I would have screamed my head off. As if I had seen a mouse run across my lunch plate.

@Aster

No surprise there. People often fear to strike back against people that have some power over them. That’s why so many unwanted sexual advances, even sexual assaults, in the workplace go unreported.

It would freak me out if a guy I didn’t know just walked up to me and kissed me.

I did not ask for permission when I kissed the hand of Princess Diana, I was a cheeky bugger & she gave me a knowing smile…no harm done.

It’s just a little too convenient that all of these women suddenly have a problem with something that supposedly happened 15–30 years ago.
If a stranger put his hand on my leg, he sure as fuck wouldn’t be moving it higher up without a broken finger or an elbow to his nose.
If you’re more concerned about disrupting a party than you are about defending yourself and/or stopping someone from sexually harassing you, it’s time to seek professional help so you can work on building a little self esteem.

@Dutchess_III it would freak me out too but , these days, I don’t mind being freaked out from time to time. Breaks the monotony.

@cheebdragon

Suddenly? Many of these allegations have been around for decades, but have been largely ignored by the press until now.

@cheebdragon is in the house?! Yay!

Well, now I went and found your comment. It it possible that they aren’t “just now” speaking up? Maybe they’ve tried all these years, and finally gave up. because no one cared—until now.

Ok. I’m super tired, and just waiting for NOVA to come on so I can veg, but this is bugging me.

I’ve been grabbed and groped. I managed to grab the fingers of two different guys, on two different occasions, without looking, behind my back, after they pinched my butt as they passed. I damn near broke their fingers. Both of the looked at me in utter, disbelieving, confused shock, and I looked back at them in solid anger. They were so confused.

But those were just your run of the mill, average guys. They weren’t bazzilonaires. I mean, if Trump grabbed you….what could you actually DO about it?

Throw a fit….it would be covered up.

Break his finger? Yes….and you’d be arrested for assault and he’d have 50 witnesses against you.

Go to the police. They gonna arrest him? I don’t think so.

Hire an attorney….he sends 50 attorneys against you, to subtly threaten you, your family, you kids, or to make you understand Trump will spend MILLIONS denying this (and “proving” this) .... and how are you going to fight it?

But now…the women actually stand a chance to get some justice. Trump says he’s gonna sue them? Good luck with that, asshole.

Many of the allegations have been around for decades? I’d like to see some evidence of that because I can’t seem to find anything filed against him before this year other than the one lawsuit from 1997 filed by a woman who claimed he had attempted to sexually assault her between 1992–1997. I’m sure it’s normal to continue associating with your alleged attacker for several years before deciding to date him in 1998, right? Clearly she was just so traumatized by him that she continued trying to contact him a few times after the relationship was over, most recently last year, hoping to be his makeup artist….. Seems legit.~