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What do you think this statement means (see the details)?

Asked by Sneki95 (7017points) November 4th, 2016

“In America, what has no point, makes no sense.
In Europe, what makes no sense, has no point.”

Heard it recently, also told that this is an opposite view and a big difference between America and Europe. I guess it refers to the way of thinking, or philosophical stance, but I don’t quite get it.

What do you think it means? How is it opposite? What is more important, is it true?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

The us political system right now??

LostInParadise's avatar

I can only guess at this. It hinges on differences in meaning between making sense and having a point. Suppose having a point means to suggest a certain action. Then the statement might be saying that Americans mostly think pragmatically. If there is no implied action to a statement then it is not worthy of consideration. Europeans, on the other hand, are more philosophical. There needs to be some underlying meaning to what they say in order to do anything.

ragingloli's avatar

It means the guy who came up with that, wanted to sound clever, but failed.

Sneki95's avatar

@ragingloli If that is true, it sucks, considering the position of the one that said it (the college professor).

Zaku's avatar

I’m not sure if it makes sense, or has a point, but I don’t seem to be interested enough to figure it out. I’m going with @ragingloli ‘s judgement until/unless someone returns my attention to it and explains it clearly.

Sneki95's avatar

Thanks for help, bruh, I appreciate it.
If you’re not interested in the question,why do you answer?

janbb's avatar

You would go back and ask the professor because I also think it sounds clever but isn’t. Don’t “making sense” and “having a point” mean almost the same thing?

Sneki95's avatar

^That is what buggs me too, didn’t understand whether are those two the same or not.

CWOTUS's avatar

Wow, @ragingloli and @janbb and me in agreement on a topic? It must be a sign of something.

janbb's avatar

@CWOTUS The end of the world as we know it is coming!!

CWOTUS's avatar

Yeah, on Tuesday. I knew that already.

janbb's avatar

You just spoiled our moment of detente.

Zissou's avatar

I think @LostInParadise is on the right track. It reminds me of something I read somewhere, maybe in de Tocqueville, which said that Americans like beautiful things but think that beautiful things should also be useful.

Having a point has to do with action—the point is what one hopes to accomplish by acting. Making sense has to do with the content of speech/thought. But in actual usage the distinction is often lost. To speak is to act, after all.

A debate about propositions that are “purely academic” might make sense insofar as the opposing positions are meaningful and internally consistent, but the debate might seem pointless in that the outcome of the debate has no practical effect.

Historically, I think Europeans might have been more ideological and Americans more pragmatic in their outlooks, but this is at best a broad generalization, and even if it has been true in the past, I’m not sure the difference is as great as it may have been.

imrainmaker's avatar

This is gibberish.. Nothing else.

Seek's avatar

I’ve tried my damnedest to come up with something for this to mean…

… And failed.

ucme's avatar

Pure, undiluted psychobabble usually reserved for people who hold their chin a lot while talking bollocks.

Zaku's avatar

Oh I spent some time trying to figure it out. I determined that it was probably way too unclear or was referring to some context I didn’t know about, and that I wasn’t willing to put any more effort into trying to figure it out. It is worth my interest enough to say that I think it’s annoying and agree that it seems to be trying to sound smart, but either meaningless or too obscure. I think that’s more accurate and valuable that trying to guess what it means.

YARNLADY's avatar

This is a talking/discussion point in a philosophical debate.

rojo's avatar

Think of it this way; In America we may have, or own something for which we have no reason to have/want/need (ie it is pointless) but we have it anyway ‘cause ”‘Murica”! and we can and it was on sale at Walmart.
Whereas in Europe if there is no need or want for it they would not/will not have it because to to do such would be pointless and probably take up valuable space.

or

Americans want for the sake of wanting: Europeans want for the sake of need.

Zaku's avatar

Ok, @YARNLADY‘s comment just snapped the meaning of this into crisp focus for me.

I’m American but I have European sensibilities, and for a long time, the quote MADE NO SENSE to me and so to me it HAD NO POINT, just as in the quote’s line for Europeans.

Meanwhile, what I was saying about it was getting reactions from @YARNLADY and @Sneki95 which I read as them saying they thought I HAD NO POINT so if I follow, they felt it MADE NO SENSE for me to post it.

So I think we just proved the point by exemplifying it.

Except I’m a European soul trapped in an American life. And maybe I’m just making it up, but right now, this looks clear to me.

bloodtiger64's avatar

The point of both of the statements are to tell you that both Europe and the us have the same veiws on idiots

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