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TheNakedHippie's avatar

Should new immigrants have to get the Guardasil (HPV vaccine) vaccination?

Asked by TheNakedHippie (468 points ) October 12th, 2008

Naturally, this move that made the vaccine mandatory for all woman applying for permanent residence has advocates upset about both the cost of the vaccinations ($360 for the series) and the unfairness to the women immigrating.

It’s not even mandatory for girls in the States, and don’t even get me started on how unfairly immigrants are treated as it is, but this is infuriating to me.

I don’t like the thought of making anyone get a vaccine for a disease that isn’t communicable like other diseases are (regular person-to-person contact).

What do you think?

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afghanmoose's avatar

i think anyone that is human and is recommended to get any vaccine for any disease should do it

seVen's avatar

All should, except native american indians. Peace!

TheNakedHippie's avatar

Wow, really? Why is that? I’m asking both of you guys

jvgr's avatar

No. No immigrant should be required to do anything that a citizen isn’t.
What’s next? Branding or Tatoo’s or Implanted RFID’s so we can keep track of them too?

gimmedat's avatar

What? That’s insane! Because the fedeal government says they should do it, it’s good or right for all? Ugh, sickening. The federal government should not mandate healthcare decisions for immigrants, anymore than it does for natural citizens. Mandatory innoculations are also wrong, in my opinion. I believe that too many vaccines are given to children too early.

TheNakedHippie's avatar

jvgr and gimmedat: I agree completely. I think it’s sick and very indicative of how we really feel about our own power.

cheebdragon's avatar

who gets to pay for it?

cheebdragon's avatar

“how unfairly immigrants are treated”.....
You must not live in a santuary city.

eambos's avatar

Doctors are considering administering that vaccine to men too, because it prevents genital warts.

TheNakedHippie's avatar

Cheebdragon: do you mean sanctuary? Regardless, what do you mean in regards to where I live?

TheNakedHippie's avatar

Eambos: Yeah, I’ve heard they’re starting to do that… I don’t think either group should be forced to get it.

cheebdragon's avatar

Edit: sanctuary*

Immigrants in sanctuary cities, are usually treated better than legal citizens.

augustlan's avatar

Unless we are required to get it, they shouldn’t be.

Tantigirl's avatar

I have no intention of having my daughter get that vaccination. It is relatively new, it hasn’t been used for very long, and I’d prefer to find out long-term side effects before I even consider it.

shilolo's avatar

All of you selfish anti-vaccine people should stick to your guns. When the next influenza or avian influenza outbreak happens, I fully expect you to reject the vaccine. Oh, wait, you would never do that.

And, NO, you cannot borrow my protective gear, either.

cheebdragon's avatar

LOL shilolo, I agree.

augustlan's avatar

@shi: I am not in any way anti-vaccine. My children have all had the usual childhood vaccines, and I plan on getting them (all girls) the Guardasil vaccine, too. What I am against is forcing one group of people to get it, while others have a choice. I think if it is really that important to the health of Americans, we should all have to get it.

shilolo's avatar

@Augustlan. No arguments here. I agree with you 100%. I was just venting my frustration at the anti-vaccine community. I see too many of them here in Northern California, and it burns me up that people would turn their backs on the greatest medical innovation in human history for obscure (and outright selfish) reasons.

augustlan's avatar

@shi: Try not to judge them too harshly…they are scared. When a disease (autism) goes unexplained, people will clutch at any straw to protect their children. I just hope that reason (on this and many, many other issues) will see the light of day sooner, rather than later.

shilolo's avatar

@Augustlan. There is no link between autism and vaccines. There is as much a chance that this is due to the routine use of prenatal ultrasounds (for example), or excessive TV watching (as another). In any event, many of the people I talk to don’t even bother listing the autism connection as a reason. They either think it is for the economic gain of a pharmaceutical company, or they don’t think the disease will happen to them (or is “that bad”).

augustlan's avatar

@shi: I don’t think there is a link, but I’ve heard many people use that as their reason for non-vaccination. The reasons you listed do seem awfully selfish.

Tantigirl's avatar

I’m not anti-vaccine either. It is just that this one is new, and nobody has a clue what could happen. Anyone remember Fen Fen?

TheNakedHippie's avatar

I’m not positive there’s a link between Autism and vaccinations, but because Guardasil is new, I’d rather be on the safe side and avoid giving it to my children.

shilolo's avatar

Fen-fen was a drug for an issue on the cusp between lifestyle and medicine (i.e. obesity). Yes, any drug can have problems when actually put into use (and also used off-label), but vaccines (for the most part) tend to be much safer.

marinelife's avatar

One more Bush piece of crap. He cannot leave too soon in my mind.

eambos's avatar

I don’t know.

marinelife's avatar

@Cheeb Yes, George Bush our president. Source: “DALLAS (AP) — A new requirement that girls as young as 11 be vaccinated against a sexually transmitted virus before they can become legal U.S. residents is unfair, immigration advocates say.

The federal rule added Gardasil to the list of vaccinations that female immigrants ages 11 to 26 must get before they can obtain “green cards.”

cheebdragon's avatar

“a 1996 change to americas immigration laws, required anyone seeking permanent residency to get all of the vaccinations recommended by the committee.”

Since Clinton was president 1996, you should probably blame him for this one.

TheNakedHippie's avatar

@Cheebdragon: I could care less who is to blame, I think it’s horrible.

cheebdragon's avatar

My answer was for marina.

shilolo's avatar

@Cheeb. In truth, the 1996 law was probably designed to help people rather than use them as guinea pigs. Many immigrants come from poor countries without a solid health care infrastructure, and are lacking in basic vaccinations. So, that law helps the individual immigrant get up-to-date on their vaccinations, but also helps society as a whole as large cohorts of unvaccinated patients could pose a serious public health hazard.

cheebdragon's avatar

It appears to be an accident almost that it became mandatory, the committee didn’t know that it would become mandatory when they recommended it, but because of the 1996 changes, all of the vaccinations they recommend are required for immigrants.
I don’t see any problem with it being required.

_Liz's avatar

why only make it mandatory for immigrants?

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