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Why did you vote for Obama?

Asked by peyton_farquhar (3741points) November 10th, 2008

I would like to believe that the majority of Americans who voted for Obama did so because they thought he would do the best job at leading this country in a post-Bush Admin. recovery. However, I feel like many voted for him because of an eagerness to resolve the issue of racism and that in electing a black president saw a redemption of our shady history. Would you have voted for Obama were he not black?

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asmonet's avatar

A lot of people who voted Obama answered here as for me, I voted on policy. It was just kind of cool to see a black candidate that wasn’t insane or clearly attached to a religious group run successfully.

judochop's avatar

yes WE can. yes WE can.

tabbycat's avatar

I voted for Obama because I thought he was the best man for the job, and I’m very happy I did. I admire his intelligence, his concern for the middle class, and his interest in getting beyond the divisive, overly partisan politics of the last eight years and more.

I think he is committed to choosing an excellent team of advisers, and I think he’ll use them and his own insight to make the best out of the bad situation he’s inherited. I feel proud to call him my President. Color and ethnic makeup are secondary.

girlofscience's avatar

Yes, of course I would have voted for Obama if he were not black.

That’s incredibly insulting to ask.

It’s obvious that he won for who he is and what he’ll do rather than anything to do with his race. He was simply a phenomenal candidate.

emilyrose's avatar

Cuz he’s hot. One of my straight male friends told me he keeps having Obama dreams! But really, it was because he was inspiring, I thought he had the power to bring people together (he clearly did!) and because I agreed with his policies more than those of the other candidates. At least those who had any chance of winning that is….... and because I cannot imagine myself voting for a Republican to hold the highest office in our country. I have voted for Republicans in local elections, but when it comes to running our country and looking at federal legislation, I feel that Democratic ideals are more in line with my values. I also wanted an anti-war candidate. It was a bonus that he was black, and I think that helped him to connect with voters that he may not have been able to connect with otherwise. His cultural and racial background has clearly shaped him. If Barack Obama grew up white, he would indeed be a different person, simply because his experiences would not have shaped him in the same way. If I were a man I would not be the same person!

buster's avatar

I voted for him to piss off my racist southern baptist father.

Sueanne_Tremendous's avatar

I didn’t vote for Obama, but I did vote for Jesse Jackson in a presidential primary many years ago. Frankly, I do think I voted for him because he was black. I was going through my “fight racism!” period (I still have the t-shirt with the slogans on them) and thought it was quite important to have a black person on the ballot, almost regardless of his policies.

DrasticDreamer's avatar

I voted for him because I think he truly has a vision to change this country for the better. “Better” is, of course, defined by each individual. However, his “better” was along the same lines as my “better”, so naturally, I thought, “HELL YES!”. Whether or not he will be able to bring about the changes he sees for this country in the amount of time he has to be our President is highly unlikely, but his ideas and what he’ll try to push for are a huge step in the right direction. Maybe one day, for my kids or my grand kids, this world might be close to what it should be.

I see in Obama, on a deeper level, what I have not seen in any President that I can remember. He doesn’t simply have ideas. He is a visionary who, after becoming our President, now not only has the power and authority to bring about changes, but the true, emanating belief and drive to actually make the change. He is hungry for a better world – you can actually sense it. He sees it, he wants it and he will try his hardest… There is no doubt in my mind.

lapilofu's avatar

We didn’t try to solve the history of sexism in this country by voting for Sarah Palin.

jsc3791's avatar

I voted for him because (among other reasons) I didn’t want another republican in office.

puttzilla's avatar

Yes, part of the reason I voted from him was simply because he had the best chance of winning against the Republican Candidate, I also just really wanted to keep Palin away from the white house.

EmpressPixie's avatar

There were so many far more important reasons to vote for him than that, my top one being that he’s intelligent and inspiring. Number, like, seventeen was absolute fear of Sarah Palin. Number seven thousand, five hundred and eighty-six might have been because he was black, but I really don’t think it came into it for me.

Judi's avatar

He inspired me to hope. Yes, one of those hopes was that we could transcend race, but he also inspired me to hope that we could be a better country, that the ideals we stand for as a country are not dead, that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness still mean something in this country.
The fact that he is a constitutional attorney assures me that he will take his obligation to defend the constitution seriously and he will actually know what that means. The last thing I wanted was another spoiled rich kid in the office who thinks that “rich” is defined by someone who makes $5,000,000 per year. I think Obama understands where ordinary Americans are coming from in a way a child of privilege like McCain never could. McCain’s intentions may be good, but I know, having lived in both the very wealthy world and in the very poor world that he really doesn’t have a clue. I know Obama has a hard job ahead of him. If anyone can do it it will be him, with his sense of optimism and hope that inspires the world.

Bluefreedom's avatar

I voted for Obama because in my heart and mind, he was the best candidate with the best hope for a new direction that the United States badly needs to take. He is articulate, intelligent, and he is everything that George Bush isn’t.

Malakai's avatar

I voted for Obama and he wasn’t the candidate I walked into the poll planning to vote for. (My political beliefs are more in line with Cynthia McKinney.)

I had heard of this happening to people before, but assumed they were low information voters or just wishy washy or something. I certainly never thought I would be one of them.

But I live in Tennessee, which generally rolls red to the tune of 8 to 12%, so I figured any vote against McCain in this state was to be considered a “protest vote” so we might as well show a little solidarity, eh?

The question of race or sex was a non-issue for me, as I would hope it would be to any intelligent person.

watchman220's avatar

I did not vote for Obama. I did vote for McCain…only because Palin is Pro-Life.

But…a good thing about voting for Obama…and Obama winning.

We are officially entering a new era, when equality reigns, racism should be ending and the era of white guilt is over.
No longer can whites be blamed for keeping the black man down.

Let’s see just how equitable the first black man treats all race groups and especially the white population.

I am not racist…I did not vote for Obama because I do not agree with is “neo-socialist” views. Black, white, brown or red… We are entering the end of something and the beginning of a new time. TO be sure.

timeand_distance's avatar

I voted for Obama because I’m more willing to trust a democrat as opposed to a Republican, to be honest. Democrats usually share the same values that I have, so I trust that Obama, being a democrat, will elect more liberals into his cabinet as opposed to conservatives.

It should probably be noted that I would’ve voted for Clinton as well; Obama’s race had nothing to do with my decision.

amurican's avatar

I always voted for Nader as he is almost the only one who never mentions God and continually educates the public through his considerable consumer activism and his warning about the corporate control of our government. The only reason we are in Iraq now is because special interest brokers created the Bush administration to create opportunites for big businesses to cash in on, Like military arms sales, Infestructure and refinery rebuilding by Haliburtan and Kerr McGee, access to one of the largest remaining oil reserves for the likes of Exxon mobil to exploit.As far as the Terrorism goes. That’s just a propganda smokescreen created by our government to con us gulable Amuricans into supporting this enormous farse. Those courageous people using their own bodies as weapons are sacrificing everything to repell us from their sacred lands. We call them Terrorists because we are brainwashed cowards supporting the evil occupation of THEIR lands. Obama has got Corporate hands in his pockets so I am not expecting fundamental change but I voted for him to create a bridge that will some day wean us from our delusions and then we can vote for the Green Party and take this country away from the corporations and then like “Neil” having been removed from the “Matrix” we too can put our superstitious dogmas aside and see with our own eyes and choose with our own hearts!

Judi's avatar

My brother who lives in Texas went into the poling booth ready to vote for Nader. At the last minute he decided that he would vote for Obama because he wanted to give him a mandate for change. He used to be Libertarian until he had a down syndrome child and realized that under a Libertarian philosophy his daughter would be on her own. Now he’s come full circle and realized the need for us to care for “the least of these” to use a scriptural reference from Matthew 25.

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IchtheosaurusRex's avatar

Change is necessary. The other guys did not offer it.

@watchman220 – don’t fall for the pro-life bullshit they’re feeding you. It’s easy to say you’re pro-life when nothing short of a Supreme Court reversal or a Constitutional Amendment will undo Roe v. Wade. The amendment never got any traction in the Reagan years because you will never get a majority of Congress and statehouses to support it.

Conservative efforts to change the composition of the Court to an ideological pro-life stance have failed, despite the fact that we’ve had conservative Republican presidents for all but 12 of the last 40 years.

I am morally pro-life, but I consider the legal and political battle to have been lost decades ago. Look at the larger picture of what’s happened to this country, and you can see that the policies of the conservative Republicans have brought this country to the brink of ruin. Stop falling for the hype.

amurican's avatar

The United States of Delusion. May your flag wave forever.

dalepetrie's avatar

For me it was simple. Think about what you believe, what your core values are. Visualize your “if I were the President, I’d…” scenario. What are your core issues, and if you could just wave a wand and say, “these are the laws now”, what would this country look like. Or more directly, if you were to pick someone to run the country, regardless of whether s/he could actually do it or not, what would you want that person’s ideology to be?

I’ve always thought in very broad terms about two things:

1 – This country has a lot of problems that no one is addressing, and
2 – In 2008, I would for the first time be old enough to run for President.

It’s an interesting fantasy world I allowed myself to live in. Intellectually I dream of what I would do as President. But I also know that practically speaking, I could never be President, nor would I want that kind of responsibility. I often have thought that no one who really deserves the job would want it. But nonetheless, I had ideals…I had a vision of what I would say to America were I ever to run for President. I guess you could call it a “hypothetical platform”.

That platform I dream of is very close to the Democratic Party platform, but in several areas, particularly areas of socio-economic justice, I have felt that the Democrats were no better than the Republicans. For example, though Democrats do more to build a strong middle class (in my opinion) than Republicans, they still allow business concerns to trump the needs of the common man far too often. On other issues they perhaps go too far…the death penalty for example…Dems would like to do away with it, and I tend to think for some crimes it’s not about rehabilitation or punishment, it’s about removing a dangerous fucking individual from society so they can’t hurt anyone else.

And though it can at times be nuanced (and others blatant), I had yet to encounter a Presidential candidate who spoke TO my beliefs. Politicians always seem to get bogged down in a couple of hot button issues and everything else falls by the wayside. Then four years ago, I first heard Barack Obama speak.

It was not about color, it was about that nuanced approach. When he said that he realized that people don’t expect government to solve all of their problems, but that they do sense that with a slight change in our priorities, we can do much better, THAT was absolutely the key for me. And when he went on to say that we have gay friends in the red states and friends who coach little league in the blue states, and that we are not a collection of red states and blue states, but one United States of America, that was incredibly powerful to me.

I’ve felt that what we’ve been doing with Presidential and national level politics is building coalitions of various niches and then pitting these coalitions against each other in an us vs. them mentality, and that has not been solving our problems as a nation. I’ve felt most of my adult life that we’re getting further and further away from lifting up our society as we become more bitterly divided.

What was so powerful to me about Obama’s words that it acknowledged a middle ground that I feared was lost forever. I think it’s only logical to acknowledge that though we may be the land of opportunity where theoretically anyone can make it, some people start on a different level of the economic ladder, and often where you end depends quite a bit on where you start. In other words, I think anyone who really believes that every child born is born onto a level playing field is seriously dilluted, but that is symptomatic of the problem when you look at the right wing of American politics.

The right has been fed the land of opportunity story, and those who either haven’t encountered financial hardship, or who have but have seen themselves through it, have no empathy for why it might not be similarly possible for someone in a different set of circumstances to lift one’s self up. But the left is not blameless…too often Democratic policies have been akin to throwing money at a problem in hopes that it will go away, and worrying about “fairness” of distribution, which really does nothing to actually level that playing field, and which leads to abuses of the system. It boils down to, some people need a hand up, but too often the left has wanted to give a hand out, and that has allowed the right to steer the conversation to the area where now anyone who needs a little help is seen as lazy, and people think that everyone relying on a little help is just sucking off the government teat. The right has intentionally built resentment among hard working people who don’t see that it’s fair that someone who doesn’t work should be afforded the same things they get when they work hard for their money. The problem is and has always been that the answer is in the middle.

And this is what makes Obama’s speech so powerful. He acknowledges that hey, people aren’t just looking to the government to solve all their problems for them (that’s the big lie), but they do sometimes have to look for help, which is why we can do much better. It is my belief that being as wealthy and expansive of a nation as we are, there is no reason for anyone to lack a subsistance living, adequate health care, quality education, and income security when they are no longer able to work due to advanced age or disability. These are the precepts of the social safety net that FDR put into place over 70 years ago, and which Republicans ever since have been trying to chip away at piece by piece, using the mantra of “personal responsibility” and “ownership society”.

When I was a kid, if I got sick, I went to the doctor. My parents and everyone they knew had pension plans through their work. We could get eyeglasses and dental care. My parents worked, the income put food on the table and the benefits kept us secure. But companies did away with pensions in favor of 401(k)‘s. Health Insurance was moved into the realm of Health Maintenance Organizations which were supposed to control costs, but which saw costs skyrocket year after year until first benefits had to be cut to make it affordable to the company and employees. Dental and vision were peeled off and became separate benefits which now most employers don’t even offer. Yet insurance companies are quite profitable, as are medical providers. Health care has gone in my lifetime from being something everyone took for granted, to being a luxury.

And that hasn’t been enough, Republicans have wanted to privatize our Social Security, so that savvy investors can profit from the losses of the regular Joe. And health care is just one area where we’ve been sold on this idea of taking “personal responsibility” for one thing after another, and now that we’ve taken this responsibility on, we’ve completely lost sight of the fact that there are those who can not do so…not because they don’t work as many hours or as hard as everyone who can afford these things, but because we’ve privatized everything, deregulated everything and become a completely free market society where it’s every man for himself. This is nothing short of Social Darwinism, economic survival of the fittest.

And so even though we had 8 years of Clinton, he was very conservative in what he managed to do. He certainly did not change us from a top down/trickle down/supply side economy back to a pay as you go, growing prosperity from the bottom up economy. Which is where Obama sits ideologically speaking. And that speech 4 years ago was the first sign of it.

But then in February of 2007 when he announced his candidacy, I was ready to support him. But I wanted to know who ALL the candidates were, and that included Democrats and Republicans. I studied their views, I read some of the books they’d published, and I came to the conclusion that in about 98% of all cases, ideologically speaking, Obama was saying the exact same things I’d always envisioned myself saying in my hypothetical 2008 run for the Presidency. I have rarely encountered a position of his with which I did not completely agree, and those which I did not agree on, I have ALWAYS been able to understand his point of view.

For me, it was a no brainer. I said nearly 2 years ago that if Obama ran, I believed not only could he win, but that he would win. I believed it would be harder for him to defeat Hillary than it would to defeat any of the Republicans. I was right. Nothing surprised me here, because I’ve kind of felt that inside, in that area that exists sort of intrinsically inside of most people that defines their moral compass, their set of what is right and wrong, just and unjust, that the policies that Obama espouses, and the genuineness with which he imparts his ideas, not to mention the conciliatory nature that he exudes, would be appealing to a broad spectrum of Americans.

In short, I don’t think we lean as far to the right as we think we do. I think we do believe that he health of our society depends on our looking after the people who live within it, which means strengthening, not weakening the social safety net, our infrastructure, and the things that all people need, but none can provide for himself.

Obama’s race, in my opinion was gravy. It’s great to break down a barrier such as this one and I think it will do a great deal to heal some of the relationships that have been strained in our society, and to that effect, I think it’s good for our society to have elected a black President. But as far as I’m concerned, any candidate who said what Obama said, how he said it and conducted his life the way Obama has conducted his life, would have won my vote, even if he/she were purple.

Mizuki's avatar

I voted based on policy, inteligence, and that I believe he has superior judgment….but on election night I cried because of race, and that my kids have a better chance for the breaking of barriers.

dynamicduo's avatar

I voted in spirit, what with me not being an American and all. A lot of Canadians were rooting for Obama to win. When I went to bed only a few states had reported in, and McCain had more seats, so I was a bit worried. CNN was the first thing I checked in the morning. I was so happy to see he won.

watchman220's avatar

@IchtheosaurusRex
I am morally pro-life as well.
I understand more perfectly after this election the freedom of democracy. The flexibility of democracy. THe imperfection of humanity. The scope of the future. The coming decline of America (what it once was).

All these things I say, with a numb feeling in my heart. My youthful innocence has long been stripped away, but the reality and maturity of our democracy frightens me on the natural. But in the spiritual I am not surprised to see the nation turn from God. ANd the leaders reflect this majority view.

Roe vs Wade? I don’t expect them to overturn it. I expect things to get worse for innocent life. We are well on our way to the bottom of a depressing chasm of Godless reality. But it will not last forever.

I believe the UNited States will say challenges like never before to even stay United States. THe people are divided like never before.

We are falling into federally backed bailout socialism. The bailouts are out of control. Headed to socialism…good, bad, or indifferent.

Bottom line,

Without God, we are lost no matter form of government we hold. A fresh Democracy gives a longer season of liberty to it’s people. We live in a stale democracy…that is quickly becoming not a democracy.

IchtheosaurusRex's avatar

@watchman220, things are not going to get better for innocent life until we create a society where life is revered and children are wanted, not driven to another state and dumped like garbage. To do this, we must embrace humanism, not turn away from it. I would rather my child grow up with limited socialism than starve under unregulated capitalism.

dynamicduo's avatar

I see people brandishing socialism around like it’s some type of tainted awful specimen. And I do understand a lot of that sentiment probably came from the Cold War. But socialism does have certain benefits, and I believe if people keep following labels instead of truly evaluating the pros and cons of certain types of action in each situation, more innovative and helpful solutions would be found.

As well, I completely disagree with watchman220’s conclusion that Without God, we are lost no matter form of government we hold. As well, I doubt people are more divided nowadays than they were during the Civil War, but that is simply my observation from Canada. I would love to continue this discussion in a thread more suitable to that topic, as this topic is focused on voting for Obama and not about the perceived decline of America.

IchtheosaurusRex's avatar

@dynamicduo, for people who voted against Obama (as opposed to those who actually voted for McCain on his merits), this is the decline of America. This country will recover – I think stronger than ever – under Obama, but it will not be the same America these people want.

dynamicduo's avatar

Indeed IchtheosaurusRex. Have you seen the recent South Park episode involving Obama and McCain? I loved the way they over-portrayed both sides, and of course the core plot was nothing but awesome. Noting that I’m a Canadian and thus couldn’t even vote, I paid a lot of attention to this presidential campaign as well as the public’s opinions on the issue. Someone asked an interesting question at my other community about where republicans would go to leave the country, based on how they told liberals to “move to Canada if you don’t like America”; I found that discussion pretty interesting!

Mizuki's avatar

So your bronze-age antiquated view of a authoritarian paternalistic “God” is necessary for the existence of the US? Maybe we can digress back to the dark ages for ya, like a Sarah Palin universe gone wild. Everyone will speak in run-on sentences and live in their own excrement. Only the priest and elders will read and write. People will believe fairy tales, copulate with children, justify their existence by the number of uncared-for little rug rats that explode out of the windows of their double wide mobile home.
Wait, I think that place is called Kansas, or Alabama…..

BBQsomeCows's avatar

I would never vote for a socialist

a pox on all who did

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