Settle this debate: How do you pronounce "Rutherford"?

This should not even be a debate. I should not need to post this question.

I know how to pronounce Rutherford.

For some reason, my boyfriend has a completely different idea of how this name is supposedly pronounced. He thinks that my version of the pronunciation (the correct version) sounds “ridiculous” and could never be correct.

This is just absurd. It is also frustrating because I know that I’m right, but I can’t prove it.

So please, phonetically demonstrate how you pronounce this name.

Also, indicate whether you feel it should be pronounced differently depending on whether it is a first or last name. (Rutherford B. Hayes vs. Shannon Rutherford.)