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FDA, FAA: Clueless to the point of criminal negligence?

Asked by KalWest (1389points) March 27th, 2009

In the never ending affronts from our government, that’s yours and mine, two recent offerings, peanut butter and aircraft deicers. On the off chance that you’ve been out of the country herewith the facts.

Several hundred people became sick (and some died) from peanut butter contaminated with bacteria. Turns out that it had been ongoing for some weeks prior to the reports last month, including the remarkable information that the FDA was ‘working on’ informing the public. I don’t know about you but before the news was reported by the media – I never heard from the FDA. Oh, and by the way, it was also reported that the FDA knew for some time that this manufacturer was doubtful. I believe this to be criminal negligence. People died because the FDA didn’t do its job.

But wait there’s more. An aircraft crashed killing all aboard last month and one person on the ground. It appears that it was due to icing. Now icing on aircraft is a serious and often fatal occurrence. Such that the FAA, another agency tasked with protecting us, has been working on deicing standards for new aircraft. Here’s the kicker. They’ve been at it for the last 15 years and announced when asked that they are almost ready. I’m sure that will be a comfort to last month’s dead and their families. Criminal negligence. People died because the FAA didn’t do its job.

These agencies report to the president and are funded by acts of congress.

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Dog's avatar

Are you referring to the Buffalo crash? if so they have not made an official cause as of yet.

Sueanne_Tremendous's avatar

I’ll take my chances with both peanut butter and commercial airlines. I think the FDA and FAA do more than a decent job for government organizations. I’ve eaten a lot of peanut butter and flown on many an aircraft that has been de-iced and I am still here.

Oh, and next time you say “herewith are the facts” you might want to actually cite factual information, not just your take on what you read.

Cardinal's avatar

If you knew what the Hell you were talking about your question MAY make more sense. I agree completely with Sueanne…...get some facts. I have flown and flown in aircraft with deicers and they are more then adequate 99% of the time.

KalWest's avatar

I may have been mistaken regarding the FAA – and I apologize for the error. And “herewith are the facts” will never be used again in this context. Forgive me.
However – regarding the FDA – I don’t feel very confident. And apparently – neither does our President:

WASHINGTON – Describing government’s failure to inspect 95 percent of food processing plants as “a hazard to the public health,” President Obama promised Saturday to bolster and reorganize the nation’s fractured food-safety system.

“In the end, food safety is something I take seriously, not just as your president, but as a parent,” Obama said in his weekly address.

The call for fundamental changes in the nation’s food-protection system follows a massive salmonella outbreak in peanut products that has sickened more than 700 people, killed nine — including three Minnesotans — and led to one of the largest recalls in U.S. history.

Obama said he will ask Congress for $1 billion in new funds to add inspectors and modernize laboratories.

Sueanne_Tremendous's avatar

@KalWest : Thanks for the factual statement. I agree that more needs to be spent to upgrade the inspection processes, and while the FDA could probably do a better job, I believe they are handcuffed by lack of funding and manpower.

That said, I am nearly 50 years old (I know the minute I type this I will be struck with some horrible food poisoning) and have pretty much eaten like a queen for those 50 years. I shop in all types of groceries. I eat everything from sushi to cannibal sandwiches and have never been sickened. Nor do I know anyone who has been affected by tainted food. Based on that I’d say that overall the food system is pretty darn safe.

You know, come to think of it, I may not affected by tainted food simply because the amount of alcohol I drink kills all the baddie germs. Something to ponder

KalWest's avatar

@Sueanne_Tremendous
“you know, come to think of it, I may not affected by tainted food simply because the amount of alcohol I drink kills all the baddie germs. Something to ponder”
LOL

galileogirl's avatar

The departments of the executive branch reflect the politics of the president. If you haven’t noticed, along with deregulation there has been decades of reducing govt inspections in the drive for “smaller govt”. Instead of regular govt inspection of many industries, including foods, many companies are allowed to hire their own inspectors with the occasional govt rep coming in to inspect reports. There might as well be no inspection at all.

Also when a company is so out of compliance that people are getting sick or injured, often action must be cleared by the politically appointed head of the dept. I am positive when the dust clears, we’ll find the peanut company, through a lobbyist or political contributions, had someone stifle the career employee’s report.

Like employees in any organization, most federal employees want to do their jobs but are often prevented from doing so. Then when something goes wrong, they are the scapegoats. For the smaller govt, laissez faire advocates, there are legitimate reasons rules and regulations are necessary-someone needs to protect us from “profit first, profit before safety” companies.

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