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Can my boss edit my timesheet once it is submitted without letting me know?

Asked by rmolnar (6points) May 5th, 2009

My boss edits employee time sheets after they have been submitted, and doesn’t let us know that he is changing them. We see that he has done this after we receive our checks, and by then it is to late, even if we really were in the right and him in the wrong. He just says “oh, oops, oh well”. I personally don’t feel that this is okay, but from a real business perspective is this okay?

Yes, he gives you less hours than you really should have gotten. for example… I had to take a 3 hours off last week to take my car into the shop, and said i was going to use my vacation time to cover it, and he said okay. but when i looked at my stub today he didn’t put my time in the way we had already discussed. He said I can’t use just 3 hours vacation I had to use 4, and I said that would have been fine if you had just asked me.

He does this with other employees also.

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casheroo's avatar

Is he making it so you have less hours?
Of course employers can edit time sheets, mine just had to the other day because I forgot to clock in, so she adjusted it for me.
They should never adjust it so you have less hours. I don’t know the legalities with that though.

RandomMrdan's avatar

how many hours are you getting unpaid for? I think it’s wrong regardless, but perhaps he is doing it simply for budgetary reasons.

I would record all the hours you work, and compare for a couple of pay periods. And then send it up to a higher authority than him. And it would help if you had another colleague that can corroborate the same story.

rmolnar's avatar

Yes, he gives you less hours than you really should have gotten. for example… I had to take a 3 hours off last week to take my car into the shop, and said i was going to use my vacation time to cover it, and he said okay. but when i looked at my stub today he didn’t put my time in the way we had already discussed. He said I can’t use just 3 hours vacation I had to use 4, and I said that would have been fine if you had just asked me.

He does this with other employees also.

mattbrowne's avatar

Would be illegal where I live (especially the ‘without letting the employees know’ part).

RandomMrdan's avatar

well…that isn’t illegal, technically you didn’t work. However, it was wrong for him to forget to put in your vacation time to cover that. And after a pay period ends, you can’t adjust it from what I understand.

He simply forgot to submit your PTO (paid time off). Now if you worked a 45 hour week, and he adjusted it down to 40 hours, then I’d be bitching up a storm. But it sounds like he just forgot to submit for some vacation time for 3 hours.

RandomMrdan's avatar

-edit, forgot to ask you about the 4 hours instead of 3.

rmolnar's avatar

See the problem is that the way our system works, I automatically enter it into the system, and then he just has to approve or unapprove them, and then that’s how the bank knows the cut the check. So he didn’t forget to do it, he actually went in and took them out.

Darwin's avatar

When I worked for the city, if there was an error on a time sheet that needed to be adjusted the employee and the supervisor both had to initial the changes. The city was very sensitive to that because it was sued over time sheet discrepancies and lost.

It sounds wrong to me that your employer would be doing that.

And where is it written that you can’t take 3 hours of vacation, but have to take 4?

squirbel's avatar

You can use flex time in the manner you described, but vacation hours have to be 4 hours or more. Check the system, and read the small print under the line where you are putting in your requested hours.

rmolnar's avatar

It really is more that flex time. we are a small company, and we only get 40 hours time off a year. and it can be sick or vacation or whatever. there is no where that says how much or how many you can use.

squirbel's avatar

Ask to see company policies on timekeeping. You can speak to your HR person. Then take up the issue with your supervisor.

avalmez's avatar

some companies do have a policy that vacation time must be taken in 4-hour increments. and in that case, yes 3 can equal 4. somewhere along the line you probably signed an acknowledgment that you received and read a copy of the company’s policy (which usually also includes “as may be revised from time to time”). if you didn’t, then i think you have a gripe, but it’s that you weren’t made aware of the policy. suck up the hour and perhaps get current with the company’s policies. wish i could advise otherwise.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

Speak to your HR department. That’s definitely not right.

rmolnar's avatar

I did, he HR department is my dad, and he is the one who says “oh, oh well”

squirbel's avatar

lawl.

Bud, if you are working for your dad, what happens at home happens in the office as well.

sjmc1989's avatar

I know what your going through I had a boss who would constantly cut my hours that I actually was there at work. She would go over her payroll and instead of working us less hrs she would still make us work then cut hrs off our time sheet, and hope we didnt notice. WE DID! I dont know if there is anything you can do about. For the vacation hrs thing I would go to whoever is abouve your boss and say That its a reoccuring problem and you and co-workers feel this is unfair. There should always be someone above your boss to talk to about issues your having.

Darwin's avatar

Sounds as if it might be time to brush up the old resume.

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