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Is the song "The Patriot Game" Anti-IRA?

Asked by w2pow2 (490points) August 19th, 2009

Come all ye young rebels, and list while I sing,
For the love of one’s country is a terrible thing.
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame,
And it makes us all part of the patriot game.

My name is O’Hanlon, and I’ve just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, and where I was weaned
I learned all my life cruel England’s to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.

This Ireland of ours has too long been half free.
Six counties lie under John Bull’s tyranny.
But still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the Patriot game.

They told me how Connolly was shot in his chair,
His wounds from the fighting all bloody and bare.
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame
They soon made me part of the patriot game.

It’s nearly two years since I wandered away
With the local battalion of the bold IRA,
For I read of our heroes, and wanted the same
To play out my part in the patriot game.

[extra verse I found]
I don’t mind a bit if I shoot down police
They are lackeys for war never guardians of peace
And yet at deserters I’m never let aim
The rebels who sold out the patriot game

And now as I lie here, my body all holes
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls
And I wish that my rifle had given the same
To those Quislings who sold out the patriot game.

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Nially_Bob's avatar

I believe the first paragraph implies that the song is indeed anti-IRA. The song appears to depict life from the perspective of someone who develops under the typical IRA ideology which may cause the song to be misinterpreted (assuming that my interpretation is correct).

theabk's avatar

I have wondered the same thing – the lyrics certainly seem anti-IRA, with the narrator’s almost childish perspective on the conflict, but the song was written by Dominic Behan (Brendan Behan’s brother), so it would seem to have a pretty strong IRA pedigree. Also, for what it’s worth, the song’s Wikipedia page claims it is “immensely popular amongst the IRA”.

w2pow2's avatar

Before I posted this question, I misinterpreted the line that goes:
“And now as I lie here, my body all holes
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls
And I wish that my rifle had given the same
To those Quislings who sold out the patriot game.”
My 4 pound brain thought that he was talking about IRA authorities. But I just realized he’s talking about deserters.

w2pow2's avatar

But the line that goes:
But still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the Patriot game.

DEFINITELY sounds anti- IRA

w2pow2's avatar

Just looked up the definition of “Shirk” And discovered that I’m a dumbbutt

janbb's avatar

A quisling is a turncoat or traitor to a cause. I think the song is more nuanced than just pro or anti-IRA. It seems to be saying multiple things about the Irish resistance movement and probably has more subtle meanings for thoose with more knowledge.

w2pow2's avatar

Thanks for the answer @Flo Nightengale

hubconstnt's avatar

I have never been a fan of literary theory, but it seems clear to me that sometimes writers and artists portray truths to which they themselves are blind. Kipling’s “White Man’s Burden” is to modern ears a powerful critique of the costs and frustrations of Imperialism. (“bind your sons to exile”, “bring all your hopes to nought”, “go mark them with your living, and mark them with your dead”). Kipling meant it as praise.

From what I have read in the Google search that brought me to this page, it seems clear the songwriter meant to praise the IRA. But to me, the song is an indictment of those who exploit youths for their idealism and their hunger to belong. During the Iran/Iraq war, the fanatics in Iran told 13 year old boys that they would earn heavenly rewards of a martyr if they marched hand-in-hand across battle fields as human minesweepers. That is more obscene than what the IRA did to O’Hanlon, but only by degree.

janbb's avatar

@hubconstnt Great answer – gave you lurve. Welcome to Fluther!

w2pow2's avatar

@hubconstnt Those kinds of comments will earn you great respect among the flutherites. Well thought-out. Graceful. Informative.
Please, stick around.
And welcome to fluther!

Errormes's avatar

This Ballard is being taken out of context, not that anyone here is blame for that. Because unless you are a young true-born child of Éire, living in turn of the century Ireland then you have no modem analogies that allow you to fully understand.

The biggest confusion here seems to be over the term IRA and it’s full meaning. To many true-born, the IRA (Irish Republican Army) only existed for 4 years. It was formed in 1917 after the Easter Rising and it fought and won the War of Independence.

It was then betrayed by Éamon de Valera or De Valera as he is named in this song. The betrail was his signing of the Anglo-Irish Treaty, something he would never have done if he was true-born like Michael Collins.

What came after may have called itself the IRA but in truth, they were once more just rebels in their own country betrayed by their leaders and now hunted by the governments of both south and northern Ireland.

They in-turn lost any right to even call themselves IRA when in 1968 the Irish rebellion finally died after nearly 800 years and was replaced by a terrorist movement who sadly destroyed the once-proud name of the Irish Republican Army. In an area of time commonly known as “The Troubles” but to a true-born, it is known as the “Betrayal of 10’000 Bombs”.

If you’re still reading then I’ll try and explain below the meaning of “True-Born Child of Éire”. So hopefully they are not confused with either terrorists or a 13-year-old Iranian child ever again. Also why De Valera is considered by many including the writer of this Ballard as Quisling and why Collins is considered the last True-Born leader of Ireland.

First off you need to understand that the Irish are a famously stubborn people and Éire has never sat peacefully under English rule since the last High King of Éire Ruaidrí Ua Conchobair signed the Treaty of Windsor 1175 which ceded a large sway Ireland which was taken during the Norman Invasions over to English rule. After this Éire became Ireland and has never been whole since in the eyes of a true-born child of Éire

This is the root cause of the IRA or as its more popularly referred to these days, its “Origin Story”

Because for over 700 years after the Treaty of Windsor was signed the true-born never forgot, never forgave and never accepted any part of Éire being held under English rule. This belief has been ingrained into every true-born from the cradle to the grave for longer than most other countries have existed. In that time there have been 18 official Irish Rebellions

Now fast forward to the 1916 Easter Rising or (No:19). when the always present but never peaceful Irish rebels consisting of the Irish Republican Brotherhood, the Irish Volunteers, led by schoolmaster Patrick Pearse joined the Irish Citizen Army of James Connolly and over 200 women of Cumann na mBan. The war lasted 6 days and was viewed by many as the last stand of the true-born Irish Rebels because those that weren’t killed in action were executed by the English afterwards.

The only real true-born Irish leader that survived was Michael Collins, mostly because at this point he was just a lowly foot soldier under the command of one Éamon de Valera. A man who sadly was not true-born but was, in fact, an Irish-american born in New York City under his real name of George de Valero.

Micheal and George later fell out over De Valera’s signing of yet another treaty that gave parts of Éire away to Ireland’s hereditary enemy. Especially as it happened right after Ireland had finally won after seven and a half centuries of fighting.

Sadly Micheal Collins lost to Éamon de Valera and the true-born lost their last chance to see Éire united by one of its faithful.

It is my opinion that Éire is now lost to us because to reform it would require the creation of an entirely new True-Born Republic of Éire. One that’s completely untainted by English rule and one who’s roots are not permanently stained by the traitor who founded the current “republic”.

Errormes's avatar

Also, your version has the verses out of its original order.

Come all ye young rebels, and list while I sing,
For the love of one’s country is a terrible thing.
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame,
And it makes us all part of the patriot game.

My name is O’Hanlon, and I’ve just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, where I was weaned.
I learned all my life cruel England to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.

It’s nearly two years since I wandered away,
With the local battalion of the bold IRA,
I’ve read of our heroes, and I wanted the same,
To play out my part in the patriot game.

They told me how Connolly was shot in his chair,
His wounds from the fighting all bloody and bare.
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame,
They soon made me part of the patriot game.

This Ireland of ours has too long been half free;
Six counties lie under John Bull’s tyranny.
But still, De Valera is greatly to blame,
For shirking his part in the Patriot game.

I don’t mind a bit if I shoot down police,
They are lackeys for war never guardians of peace,
And yet at deserters, I’m never let aim,
The rebels who sold out the patriot game.

And now as I lie here, my body all holed,
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls,
And I wish that my rifle had given the same,
To those Quislings who sold out the patriot game.

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