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Did the System Of A Down "Toxicity" Album predict 9/11 among other things?

Asked by Darbio16 (767 points ) September 10th, 2009

Listen to the disc. Read the Lyrics and song titles. System Of A Down is without a doubt a politically driven band, touching on all sorts of issues from totalitarianism to the break down of the prison system. Many scary coincidences arise when viewing the data surrounding this album.

1.) System Of A Down was under the “American” record label which features an upside down American flag as a logo.

2.) The album was released one week prior to the attack.

3.) The song “Jet Pilot” is strangely coincidental to 9/11. Here are the lyrics.

Jet Pilot
Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay,
Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay.

My horse, is a shackled old man,
His, his remorse, was that he couldn’t survey,
The skies, right before,
Right before they went gray,
My horse and my remorse,
Flying over a great bay

Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay,
Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay.

My, source, is the source of all creation,
Her, discourse, is that we all don’t survey
The skies, right before,
Right before they go gray,
My source, and my remorse,
Flying over a great bay,

Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay,
Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay
Where were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay,
Where were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay.

Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay,
Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay
Where were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay,
Where were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot,
One that smiled when he flew over the bay.

4.) “ATWA” (song 9) Ali Atwa is a terrorist that tried to hijack a plane.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/teratwa.htm

5.) Several references toward flying in the album. “Jet Pilot” “ATWA” and “Aerials”.

Just a thought. If you find any other uncanny similarities or you just plain disagree just write it down.

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28 Answers

mrentropy's avatar

Having been dead for centuries, it’s a shame we cannot simply ask them if they predicted this or were forewarned, somehow.

teh_kvlt_liberal's avatar

Why’d you leave the keys upon the table?
You wanted to!!

eponymoushipster's avatar

Aren’t all System of a Down albums about the Armenian Genocide?

Via
Some fans of System of a Down claim that the song is about man’s nature to be a paradox, i.e. different people at different time[1][2]because of lines such as “Life is a waterfall, we’re one in the river, one again after the fall.” Other fans interpret the track as a critique of mainstream American luxury compared to the band’s rejection of the mainstream, e.g, the scene with the alien leaving the press after being publicly scrutinized for his fame and retreating to the band playing in a barren desert. Some fans believe that lyrics such as “And we are the ones that want to choose/always want to play but you never want to lose” and the line “Life is a waterfall/we drink from the river then we turn around and put up our walls” refers to humankind’s tendency to exploit the Earth’s resources, something that may be seen as being childish through the eyes of a heavanly being whether it be an angel or an extra-terrestrial[2][3]. Another theory of the song, is that the video is much like David Bowie and Marilyn Manson’s iconic characters Ziggy Stardust and Omēga, because much like the two, the child is an extra-terrestrial, and possibly for that is made famous (Ziggy Stardust and Omēga become rock-stars), and in the end all realize what “Hollywood” has done to them. Although Omēga in the end either dies or becomes the “Disintegrator”, it is unknown what happens to the little boy.

Likeradar's avatar

@mrentropy who’s been dead for centuries? so confused already…

benjaminlevi's avatar

Im pretty sure “jet pilot” is gibberish.

And what does “Pogo” have to do with 9/11? And “Needles”?

eponymoushipster's avatar

I hear Chop Suey is about how the Chinese Government is going to buy up US currency and make us eat cats. Get me my foil hat now!

mrentropy's avatar

@Likeradar I was being facetious.

Darbio16's avatar

Good, now that the wise guys had their turn, we can now get on to some real answers. Good answers for everyone who has participated.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Darbio16 oh golly, i adore your commendation.~ The answer is still ‘no’.

wait how does this connect to fiat money?

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

It’s coincidental, not prophetic.
Serj isnt like that guy from Heroes who can paint the future or anything.
Good album but that’s all it is.

Not everything is a conspiracy

Serj does come from a part of the world that is no stranger to terrorist attacks.

rebbel's avatar

That leaves the dumb guys.
So, here goes.
Isn’t it also a known fact that Bush is the uncle of Daron Malakian?

mrentropy's avatar

I was being facetious about them being dead for centuries, not that it would be easier just to ask them. Because, you know, it’s not like they’ve been dead for centuries.

In any case, I think if the song was prophetic at all then there’d be some people who would be very interested in talking to them. In a small room with a wooden table. And a lamp swinging from the ceiling.

aphilotus's avatar

I feel that lyric-ology (reading prophecy into lyrics) is a lot like numerology- yes there might be some striking coincidences, but the signal to noise ratio is so high that people can get out of the lyrics or numbers whatever message they want.

So sure, Toxicity prophesied 9/11, but it also prophesied, oh, I don’t know, how two waiters are going to interact with each other the night of August 21st, 2052, in a bar that has yet to be built on the corner 42nd and 3rd, NYC.

drdoombot's avatar

I’ve listened to Toxicity numerous times and I’ve never picked up on the seemingly prescient lyrics about 9/11 in “Jet Pilot.” I don’t believe it’s truly prophetic, but a fun coincidence to think about. Creepy, even.

Thanks for pointing it out @Darbio16!

benjaminlevi's avatar

Every time I listen to “Jet Pilot” I think of the episode of Mr. Ed where Mr. Ed hijacks a plane and tries to fly to South America.

Sampson's avatar

The song, ATWA is actually in reference to a saying started by Charles Manson. It stands for Air Trees Water Animals and All the way alive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATWA

Darbio16's avatar

@Sampson I did explore that route, but the lyrics in the song ‘ATWA’ constantly say “you don’t care about how I feel, I don’t feel it anymore” say to me kamikaze. Charles Manson is still alive, and he does ‘feel it anymore’. Those hijackers could have honestly sang that song and dramatically die with the last word of the song. System does promote mother earth, but due to the other coincidences, I am leaning more towards the song being a reference to Ali Atwa(FBI most wanted list).

References to the New World Order are abundant in System music. In the song “Toxicity” they ask this: “New, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder, disorder.” The banking institutions and multi-national corporations do indeed seek, by any sinister means necessary, great wealth. They use the wealth they have in order to influence every aspect of being human. Monsanto for instance, a global company who has brought the world great joys such as PCB’s, Agent Orange and Aspartame, has also bought a very large majority of the worlds seed banks. Monsanto also dabbles in Bio-Engineering. They produce the world’s top selling herbicide “RoundUp”. They have inserted genes into numerous plants so that “RoudUp”, which kills EVERY plant it touches, does NOT! killed the modified plant.

In theory “RoundUP” can be applied to the field to rid it of any unwanted vegetation allowing the farmer to save some money in clearing his fields by hand. Do not go calling Monsanto a hero to the farmer just yet. In order to use these ‘miracle’ seeds, to which Monsanto has an exclusive patent, a farmer must first sign a legally binding agreement to not use the seed from his harvest for the next year. The farmer must then pay Monsanto royalty fees each year to produce his crops. That’s all fine and dandy for any farmer willing to go along with it, but it gets worse. Just as all plants do naturally, the genetically modified plants too reproduce. When a genetically modified plant fertilized a non genetically modified plant it changes the unmodified plant into one of Monsanto’s “FrankenFoods”.

The U.S. and Canadian governments are in line with Monsanto as well. Monsanto routinely scours the country sides of America and Canada in search of patent violations. Monsanto has been suing farmers all over for using their patented seeds even though the farmers hadn’t purchased the seed, their fields had been infected. Monsanto has many patents on a variety of plants. They are now trying to get patents on certain pig genes. Indeed it seems they want to put a lock on the world food market.

To make matters even worse Monsanto has bought up most of the chemical companies that had produced for Hitler. I.G. Farben being one of the most prominent. Though the names change over time the agenda never does. I.G. Farben, producer of the Zyklon-B Gas that was used to exterminate jews during WWII, had on subsidiary called G.D. Searle. That name should sound familiar because our own Donald Rumsfeld was the president of the company. In fact, if you look at the staff of our White House and all the oppressive bureaucracies, you will see that very many of them either come from Monsanto before serving in public office or go to work for Monsanto directly after.

I put great emphasis on this one company alone to show that no act of terrorism portrayed by the media is as scary as what this one company is doing. There is a vast network of companies that have deeply entrenched themselves into the fabric of society. Many of you, sadly, will have to google for hours in order to be introduced to much of what I said. After all, this conglomerate owns 90% of every bit of media we see. That 90% is split into five companies that own every television network, radio station, newspaper, magazine, think tank, university, publishing company and anyother form of communication you can think of. Disney, Turner, Viacom, GE and News Corp

To pay for all of this is easy. 6 billion people provide an awful lot of tax. If a certain country doesn’t want to donate to the “One World” fund then “Hi Ho..Hi Ho.. It’s off to war we go”.

markyy's avatar

Yeah right, well if you make a song with lyrics that are that symbolic by nature and are used as some kind of metaphors you can interpret it any way you want to. Also it doesn’t help that the song only consists of a few lines sung over and over again.

eponymoushipster's avatar

System of a Down are obviously a modern day Nostradamus. If you’re vague enough, any twit can see their situation in your words.

Janka's avatar

No.

The lyric references to 9/11 are very vague and could as well refer to any other incident involving jet pilots and death. Terrorists hijacking places was actually not invented for 9/11 at all, either. That it has a reference to “flying” and came out some time before the incident seems most likely purely coincidental. Moreover, the lyrics read metaphorical, not like referring to real incidents, to me.

If you are regularly convinced that lyrics of songs include “hidden meanings” like this, you might want to talk about that to a mental health professional, especially if you suffer or have previously suffered from depression or other mental health problem. (This is not meant as an offense, but as sincere advice.)

asleepwithfish's avatar

People are Crazy, ofcourse they have or had connections with the terrorists. They left NYC the night before the attacks after burning a flag in public at one of their penthouses. I understand Chop Suey is a tribute to the hijackers, jet pilot is related (duh), and ofcourse Aerials, what are you retarded, Toxicity-the air was toxic/flashlight reveries caught in the headlights of a truck-i.e a deer. (tire hub) How about these words as a tribute to the hijackers, YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT HOW I FEEL I DON’T FEEL IT ANYMORE, ALL THE WORLD I’VE SEEN BEFORE ME PASSING BY-this song is a beautiful song to me about the hijackers as is chop suey, which is exactly what ground zero looked like. All the band members were investigated by the FBI immediately following 9/11/01. BOOYA. BITE IT HAJ!!

asleepwithfish's avatar

They may disguise they’re songs with double meanings, to avoid the obvious intended meanings. If the song feels like a song its probably a politcal statement. If a duck looks like a duck and quaks like a duck, then…who knows what it is these days.

asleepwithfish's avatar

But, Ali Atwa hijacked a plane in 1985.

nono's avatar

Not usually a conspiracy theorist but I have noticed the similarities between the Toxicity album and 9/11. To add fuel to the fire some believe that there is a hidden ‘9/11’ in the song “Chop Suey”. In both the 1st and 2nd verse, during the silent bit immediately following “Wake up (wake up). Grab a brush and put a little makeup”. (9/11). It sounds very far away in the studio, some say its an echo, yet echos tend to sound like that which preceded them. Also, there is no 9/11 echo after the lyric “Why’d you leave the keys up on the table?” I think I’m crazy, but its on youtube as well, and most people I play it for hear what I hear, so, you know, I don’t know.

JonnyNightmare's avatar

also in one of the other songs on the CD on toxicity it says…..“you gave us guns well look at us now”. and its no secret that america gave afaganistan guns back in the day to help them out. thats what started everything. we turned our back on them afterward and bin laden blamed us for it all. not that there was anything more we could have done for them anyways, i dont belive.

also the same song says, ” pushing little childeren with there fully automatic, they like to push they weak around!” really wierd how all this adds up

i myslef dont wanna belive the hype but i to in the past few years have wondered the same thing.

and i hate consperacy theories i dont belive any of them. but this is the most believable. especailly if you really know the history of bin laden and america. but id like to think its just coincence. i really like the music and id hate to think by purchasing there CD i somehow helped out a group of ppl that dont think so highly of us.

sorry for the missspelled words. typed fast didnt care to change any of mistakes.

jsdfk's avatar

I personally beleive that the song Chop suey is about an abusive relationship, although my friend argues that it is about 9/11. I understand where you come from when you say they may have made it to have a double meaning. But I myself still beleive that it’s only about an abusive relationship. Because in the beginning it goes “wake up, grab a brush and put on a little make, hide the scars and fade away the shake up, you wanted to”

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