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I need a civics lesson about the Health Care Bill?

Asked by Judi (40025points) September 17th, 2009 from iPhone

Does congress now vote on the Baucus bill or are there more opportunities to correct it? For discussion, how can it be fixed in a way that could stand a snowball’s chance in he’ll of being passed?

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Harp's avatar

Here’s what happens next.

dpworkin's avatar

The battle begins now.

augustlan's avatar

@Harp That link was very informative. Thanks!

ubersiren's avatar

@Harp : Thank you for that.

Judi's avatar

Thanks @Harp. So it’s still a mystery I guess. Will they be able to remove the disasters (at least according to Rachel Maddow) that it seems to have for the middle class?
Withoy laboriously reading and trying to interpert the entire Bill, who is an unbiased reliable source to help translate it? Iove Rachel, but let’s face it, I’m sure even she wouldn’t claim to be unbiased.

Harp's avatar

@Judi Here’s a good synopsis of the bill.

The criticisms of the bill’s repercussions on the middle class are coming from all quads, including several Dems. Essentially, many feel that the income level at which the government would start helping pay for insurance is set too low in this bill. And since there’s a monetary penalty for not being insured, the fear is that some in the middle class would be in a position where they can’t actually afford insurance because the government won’t help, but they face hefty fines for not having it.

It also gets a lot of its revenue from taxing high-value insurance plans. That sounds like it would apply only to white collars, but apparently even many middle-class workers have these “golden” insurance policies (it’s a popular form of compensation because it hasn’t been taxable). They may not have any choice as to which plans their company offers, so they could find themselves hit with a big tax, even though they don’t make much money.

All of this was Baucus’ strategy for squeezing under the $900 billion bar that Obama set as the maximum acceptable price tag. Not an easy thing to do.

Another Dem has already stepped forward with an amendment designed to allow employees a greater choice of plans, and you can be sure there’ll be plenty more.

Judi's avatar

I have been wondering what a “Cadillac plan” looks like. I have never heard of a plan that covered plastic surgery unless it was reconstructive and deemed necessary. I don’t think we should be taxing anyones employer provided insurance. Who do I send my ammendment to?~

Harp's avatar

edit: Oops, my synopsis link above is to the second page of the article. This is the first page.

Harp's avatar

And another correction: The proposal isn’t to tax the workers for the “cadillac” insurance plans, but to tax the insurers for those plans. The end result could still be bad for workers, as Jay Rockefeller explains: “He should understand that (his proposal) means that virtually every single coal miner is going to have a big, big tax put on them because the tax will be put on the company and the company will immediately pass it down and lower benefits because they are self insured, most of them, because they are larger. They will pass it down, lower benefits, and probably this will mean higher premiums for coal miners who are getting very good health care benefits for a very good reason. That is, like steelworkers and others, they are doing about the most dangerous job that can be done in America.”

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