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Can men have PMS?

Asked by jamielynn2328 (4737points) October 17th, 2009

My husband is slowly ruining our marriage. I had a deadline of November to decide whether or not I am leaving him, and that is quickly approaching. He tends to be negative, moody, and thoughtless about one week out of every month. The other times he is pleasant, helpful and receptive and open to conversation.

His mother is bi-polar, so I have put some thought into whether or not he could possibly have some sort of mental problem. The bottom line for me is this is not a happy way for me or my children to have to live. We don’t have health care, so seeing someone is out of the question. A couple of months ago I bought him some St. John’s Wort because I know that helps with mood stabilization, but he can’t remember to take it, and I don’t have the time to babysit him since I have two actual children that need my mothering, a full time job and a full time school schedule.

Any ideas?

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Tink's avatar

I wish they did so they would know how we feel.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

As men do not menstruate, no.
There may be some depression happening from another cause.

Sarcasm's avatar

Pre menstrual syndrome.
We do not menstruate, therefore we do not have a “pre-menstrual” period, therefore we cannot have “Pre-menstrual syndrome”.

There is, however, Irritable Male Syndrome.

RedPowerLady's avatar

Yes actually they can have the equivalent to it.. In fact men cycle through PMS more than women do. This is if you equate the cycle of male reproductive organs similar to that of what women go through when they have PMS. This is what allows for conception in men as PMS relates to the menstrual cycle of women which is what allows for conception in women. http://www.pamf.org/fertility/conception/male.html

There is also something called IMS (irritable male syndrome)
http://www.about-pms.com/articles/pms-basics/male-pms.php

There is also evidence that there is a Male PMS due to testosterone and its fluctuations: http://www.4-men.org/testosterone/pms.html

scamp's avatar

In men, I think it stands for P unish M y S pouse , so my answer would be yes, they do!

I’m sorry you are having such problems with your husband. I hope you can get to the bottom of it, and get some relief one way or the other.

wildpotato's avatar

Yes, Red got it right. Though I haven’t noticed a change in men monthly, based on the organ cycle she brings up in her first paragraph. Men go through irritable periods, in my experience, about 4 times a year. Maybe what I’m noticing is the second or third thing Red writes about. One week out of every month sounds like a lot of irritability. Maybe your husband should see medical and mental health professionals for a quick checkup, just to rule out any physiological problem and bi-polar disorder.

patg7590's avatar

you’re leaving him because he is unpleasant 25% of the time?

Darwin's avatar

Technically, no, men can’t have PMS, but they can and do have hormone fluctuations. However, because he has a parent that was diagnosed as bipolar that would be the place to start.

Rather than disrupt your marriage and damage your children, especially if the week he is moody is predictable, have you considered staying apart during his grumpy week?

In terms of health care, if he is willing to see someone you might check with your various state agencies. Our version in Texas is MHMR, and they provide free or reduced cost mental health care to those in low income brackets.

filmfann's avatar

Still laughing over @NewZen ‘s opening remark.

Can you connect the week he is moody to any home or work event, like bills, end of the month accounting, or other due dates?

MagsRags's avatar

Does he recognise that he has a problem? Sounds like you have somehow taken on ownership of this. You got him the St John’s wort, you’re facing a decision deadline of whether you stay together. If he can’t even remember to take the St John’s wort, it sounds like he’s not really invested in this as a problem in need of a solution or at least a change

RedPowerLady's avatar

I apologize I forgot to answer the second half of your question.

I want to say that you should note that you do not need health care to see a good therapist. They have sliding-scale therapists and pro-bono therapists in most areas. In fact we see one pro-bono ourselves.

I have a question for you? What exactly does your husband do this one week out of the month? I am getting an image of violence or at least verbal violence. Is this the case?

hearkat's avatar

The National Alliance on Mental Illness can help you find low or no-cost services in your area.

I understand all too well that you can not be a parent to your spouse… and I hope you are able to find resolution.

jamielynn2328's avatar

25% is a lot of the time. And it is not always the third week of each month, but it does seem to be cyclical. We have been married for nine years now. When he is moody it effects everyone. My children should be able to have stability, and emotional stability is just as important as financial stability to me.

He is verbally and emotionally abusive. I can’t say anything to him without it turning into a huge ordeal. It is impossible to be around someone who walks around with a black cloud looming over their head.

I do feel like I am more invested in the process of fixing our marriage than he is. I often feel that even though he knows he has a problem, ignoring it seems a better option for him. I picked up the St. John’s Wort after a conversation that we had, and he agreed to try it. I am not trying to fix him. I just want a home full of love and kindness. Not hate and eggshells. I love him so much. But I cannot live this way anymore.

Capt_Bloth's avatar

@wildpotato One week out of every month sounds like a lot of irritability. I couldn’t agree more. : )

patg7590's avatar

whatever it is he’s going through must be really tough; I bet he needs you now more than ever

RedPowerLady's avatar

@jamielynn2328 If there is abuse going on in any form then perhaps you should stay with some family for awhile. That may jog your man to understand you are serious about getting this problem dealt with. In the meantime you can look for a good marriage therapist. If you have been married 9 years and this is a new phenomenon I would suggest not jumping the gun too soon, figure out what is causing the moodiness and try an deal with it. But in the meantime protect yourself from the abuse. I am very sorry you have to deal with this.

Iclamae's avatar

Have you considered telling him that his mood swings are making you miserable and that if he doesn’t make an effort to do something about it, you don’t think you can stay? If this is only happening for a week every month, it seems like there has to be some kind of emotional trigger, so maybe talk to him about what’s stressing him out like this.

Bluefreedom's avatar

Men have SRH (Sperm Retention Headaches) so I guess that could be the male counterpart to PMS.

proXXi's avatar

If they’re in a heterosexual relationship.

jamielynn2328's avatar

We talk about it everytime it happens. And it is not a new thing at all. Me being at the end of my rope is the new thing that is happening…

NewZen's avatar

Strange that the mods removed my answer of “No. Hahaha.” to Can Men have Pms? Does the mod have perhaps, these symptoms?

Endeavor's avatar

men get pms every month if they are married..

filmfann's avatar

@Endeavor Welcome to Fluther. Lurve.

@NewZen I’m telling you, I laughed at that post all morning.

derekfnord's avatar

@jamielynn2328 Is he aware of the November deadline, or is this something you’ve decided privately? If you haven’t told him, it might be worth it to tell him. Obviously he knows there’s an issue (since you talk about it after every occurrence), and he knows you feel like it needs to change (because, for example, you got him St. John’s Wort), but he may not really grasp just how much it needs to change. If he knows it will be a marriage-ending issue if it continues, maybe that would shock him into doing something about it…

jamielynn2328's avatar

@derekfnord I have told him about the November deadline the last three times that it has happened. I’m out of my mind with frustration. The worst part is that we work through it everytime and everytime it happens again. I worry that since he knows, and I don’t doubt that he loves us, that it may come down to being a chemical problem or a mental problem.

MagsRags's avatar

One of the first law of relationships: ultimatums are ineffective unless you’re prepared to follow through. Either he doesn’t believe you’re serious, or he’s unwilling to change or he’s unable to change. It’s hard to believe based on what you’ve shared here that he’s unable, because it doesn’t sound like there’s been effort on his part.

CMaz's avatar

As in Premenstrual syndrome?
You would have to be premenstrual.

Moody men just become a reflection of their johnson.
We don’t need any stinking excuses.

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