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Could a university annex itself away from a city?

Asked by grumpyfish (6657points) November 9th, 2009

Here in Pittsburgh, the mayor is proposing a 1% tax on higher-ed tuitions

Two larger universities are Pitt and Carnegie Mellon, who own pretty much all of the land surrounding their campuses, to the point that the two of them make up a rather huge contiguous area if you combine the two.

I also know that it’s relatively straightforward to create a city out of unincorporated land—this is the story behind City of Industry—however, is it possible for an incorporated chunk of land to become a separate city?

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aphilotus's avatar

And Pittsburgh already has a precedent of a neighborhood being a separate municipality completely enclosed by the rest of the city: the borough of Mt. Oliver.

The borough of Mt. Oliver, though, is not to be confused with the adjacent Pittsburgh neighborhood also called Mt. Oliver.

Then again, if Carnegie Mellon and University of Pittsburgh (and I guess Carlow too) were to succeed, which neighborhoods would they take? Where does one draw the lines?

A more specific question: what neighborhood do you think CMU is in? Because according to the city, that’s actually the west part of Squirrel Hill North.

grumpyfish's avatar

I would suspect that the universities would simply annex their own properties, rather than trying to decide based on neighborhood lines.

E.g., this map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=40.444726,-79.956908&spn=0.02443,0.055747&z=15&msid=109268314472766791730.000477f1c090d51dafda6

(And yes, Carlow is included in that map)

aphilotus's avatar

@grumpyfish If we are going to start chopping up Pittsburgh, let’s throw in Baum-Centre too…

Beta_Orionis's avatar

$500 not burdensome!? In the scope of things it may not be so much, but that’s about the amount extra I have to pay for school supplies during the semester, and even that’s hard to come by. grumble

I wonder if the calculations take into account what those of us relying heavily on grants actually pay. For example, in the scope of my life, $500 is actually nearly 3% of what I contribute towards tuition.

He also said:

“When you look at some of the fees these places charge,” he said, citing charges for everything from athletic facility use to orientation to security, “we think it’s only fair to include a fee for the city.”

CMU’s fees total $300, $200 of which are waived if you live off campus.

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