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mowens's avatar

Which is grammatically correct?

Asked by mowens (8403points) December 2nd, 2009

Beer or beers?

Someone at work just said “Hey, let’s grab a couple of beers after work.”

Someone corrected him, and said beers is not a word. He is saying, the plural of beer is beer, just like deer. His excuse… is no one would say I shot 3 deers.

What do you think?

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sliceswiththings's avatar

Beers.
“I’ll have two beer”...sounds ridiculous:)

sliceswiththings's avatar

Ha, see the question right below yours!

gailcalled's avatar

Beers. Or two bottles of beer on the wall, if you will.

“Deer” used as both singular and plural is usage.

The word “money” means something different than “monies.”

erichw1504's avatar

That’s ridiculous, the plural of beer is beers because you’re talking about an individual beer (i.e. in a can or bottle) not just beer in general.

mowens's avatar

I didnt see that question. hahaha

erichw1504's avatar

If there was a huge vat of beer at a factory, you could say “look at all that beer!” You wouldn’t say “look at all that beers!”. But when you are talking about having multiple bottles of beer, you can say “beers” because there is more than one.

gailcalled's avatar

And yet, when I look out the window, I see one deer, two deer, 12 deer. Our language has lots of irregularies in it.

erichw1504's avatar

“Look at all those buccaneer!”

sliceswiththings's avatar

Yeah after you shoot three deer should you shoot three…meese?
Love those irregularities.

proXXi's avatar

Jeesh! Who wants a beer?

MrItty's avatar

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/beer

3. an individual serving of beer; a glass, can, or bottle of beer: We’ll have three beers.

Val123's avatar

@proXXi I’ll take two beer. s.

erichw1504's avatar

“Hey, let’s go grab a couple of wines after work.”

Val123's avatar

“Deer” and “fish” are the only two nouns that I know of that mean singular or plural either way…..

erichw1504's avatar

@Val123 But, I love fishes cuz they’re so delicious… gone gold fishin!

Val123's avatar

I love fishes too!!! But you can’t say that to the President. “You want one fish, or two fishes, sir?”

Val123's avatar

@susanc Sho nuff :) Or, in Kansas we called them “Sheps.” You know.

Val123's avatar

@erichw1504 Post it on Youtube!!

LexWordsmith's avatar

@erichw1504 : “buccaneer”—a piratical price for corn.

others: see also “the miracle of the loaves and the fishes.”

LexWordsmith's avatar

“beers”—your friend’s argument is not sanctioned by common usage; does s/he also say “two dish”?

mowens's avatar

I think this shut him up. Thanks guys. :)

Val123's avatar

@LexWordsmith It may be because it rhymes with “Deer.”

erichw1504's avatar

@Val123 Ends with “eer”.

dpworkin's avatar

It’s a distinction without a difference and someone is being anal retentive in terms of prescriptive syntax.

erichw1504's avatar

@pdworkin I read that as “prescription of Syntax”, like Syntax is a medication, possibly for their anus (anal).

dpworkin's avatar

Apply with tongue. Do not exceed recommended dose.

morphail's avatar

@gailcalled I don’t think the comparison with deer works. Deer is a count noun that happens to have the same form in singular and plural. “Beer” can be a count noun with a regular plural, as in “I’ll have 2 beers”, or it can be a noncount noun (and so has no plural form), as in “I’ll have 2 bottles of beer.”

erichw1504's avatar

I think we’ve beaten this question to death (especially me).

Val123's avatar

@morphail @gailcalled was just making the same point….as you said, “deer” _happens__ to have the same form in singular and plura—for no apparent reason! I could understand how certain people could get confused.

gailcalled's avatar

@Val123: To muddy the water (or waters)...From a Snow Leopard dictionary app.:

“USAGE: The normal plural of fish is fish ( : a shoal of fish ;: he caught two huge fish ).
The older form fishes is still used, but almost exclusively when referring to different kinds of fish ( : freshwater fishes of the Great Lakes).”

Now to the verbs: to fish and to bird but not to deer, to moose, to animal-of-whatever-kind and certainly not to beer.

avvooooooo's avatar

Whoever thinks he’s grammatically superior needs to be smacked.

Tell him that dumbasses is plural for dumbass, but he’s the only one in the room so you can use the singular form.

Val123's avatar

@gailcalled Um. All I caught was the last word. And, I think I shall! Thank you dear!

gailcalled's avatar

Val; “Shall” what?

jessicamarie's avatar

this guy who thinks beers is not a word is obviously on crack or something because “lets grab a couple of beer” sounds…wierd…thats not correct english

Val123's avatar

@gailcalled Um. The last word I caught in what you wrote above was “beer.” So I did!

Val123's avatar

@jessicamarie Well, yes, it sounds weird but mainly because we’re not used to hearing it. Actually, the sentence, “We saw several deer,” would sound just as weird if we normally pronounced the plural of “deer” as “deers.” But we don’t so, “We saw several deer,” sounds just fine, because we’re used to hearing it.

jessicamarie's avatar

@Val123…thats true too i guess

LexWordsmith's avatar

I’m used to hearing “That needs fixed”, but my being used to hearing it (and a lot of other people’s being used to hearing it, in the mid-western-Pennsylvania area) doesn’t make it Standard American English.

Val123's avatar

@LexWordsmith Well, yes. That’s true. Just like I’m used to hearing “Where you at.” It doesn’t make it right. But my point was, “Let’s go have a few beer,” sounds weird, whereas “We saw a few deer” doesn’t sound weird.

LexWordsmith's avatar

Let’s go have a few, dear.

Val123's avatar

@LexWordsmith Beers or deers??

avvooooooo's avatar

Mmmmm… Bambi!

Val123's avatar

Mmmmmmmmm BOP! ....oh, quit swooning! Get up off the floor and get back to work!!

LexWordsmith's avatar

@Val123 : Dears, of course.<grin>

Val123's avatar

@LexWordsmith You a Mormon? :)

LexWordsmith's avatar

No, nor a libertine, but certainly a Valentine.

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