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Relationship ended, he wants to be friends but I don't - advice?

Asked by melanie81 (794points) December 13th, 2009

So I just got out of a rather short relationship – just a couple of months – we basically hit it off after the first date and moved pretty fast emotionally. He was crazy about me, telling me that I’m the girl he’s been looking for, told his family about me, and “couldn’t wait to introduce [me] to them.” Long story short, he fucked up big-time last week and it’s over. I think he’s bipolar, because the way he treated me when I confronted him about his fuck-up was TOTALLY unlike him. Very cold and distant, making me feel like a nuisance, when he’s always been overly concerned for my feelings and well-being in the past.

Now that his “mood” has blown over, he wants to be friends; but frankly, I don’t want to ever talk to him again. We never WERE friends, so why would we be now?? I don’t understand why men expect women to be their friends after they treat them like shit. So here’s my dilemma: When I tell him that it’s over COMPLETELY and that friendship is not an option, he acts like I’m over-reacting and being emotional. So it’s a lose-lose situation for me. I don’t want him thinking that I’m being uber-dramatic and so emotionally scarred that I can’t be his friend – because that’s not the case. I simply do not want to invest the time into being friends with some asshole who can turn on me so unexpectedly. I wanted MORE than friendship from him, and he couldn’t deliver. However, if I were to choose to be his friend, I would feel like a doormat.

Advice?

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Blondesjon's avatar

It’s simple. If you don’t want to be friends then don’t. Ultimately you are the one who has to live with your decisions, why not make them about what you want.

chelseababyy's avatar

Do what makes YOU happy. If you don’t want to talk to him or be friends with him, don’t. You wouldn’t want to put yourself in a position in which you would be a “doormat”.

gemiwing's avatar

Tell him that you don’t want to be friends. Say it calmly and rationally. If he throws a fit- walk away. The more upset he may get, the more you know you did the right thing. Just because he wants to be friends doesn’t mean you have to oblige.

melanie81's avatar

thanks, @gemiwing . You’re all right, I definitely have no plans on actually being his friend. But I think the key here is to just say it in a calm, rational way.

La_chica_gomela's avatar

Who cares what he thinks?! If you don’t want to be friends with him, don’t! You don’t owe him anything!

jrpowell's avatar

I’m a guy. And a bit of an asshole too. The friends thing is code for “I want to get back in your pants if this other girl doesn’t work out.”

Tell him to fuck off.

melanie81's avatar

@johnpowell HAHA – I love it. Thanks for your honesty! I knew it had to be something like that. Either that or “If she’s friends with me it means I can’t be THAT much of a jerkoff.” Fucker.

nicobanks's avatar

If you don’t ever want to talk to him again, why do you care what he thinks of you?

Okay, I mean I do empathise…sometimes it even bothers me when strangers on the internet assign untrue causes to my behaviour! But really, it shouldn’t, and I think you’ll feel better if you’re able to brush him and his whole deal off. Don’t invest any more time or energy into something you don’t respect or appreciate.

I can see this becoming a problem if he starts trash-talking you to mutual friends. But with a little effort you can easily set them straight. Just act nonchalant whenever his name comes up: if you don’t exhibit any emotions for him (negative or positive), no one will think you have any, no matter what he says. If anyone asks you about what he says about you, just brush it off in a somewhat condescending tone: “Oh as if, I’m not emotionally-scarred, I just wanted out of that train wreck. Later for that shit!” and then casually move on to a topic you find more interesting.

If you want to try one last time to explain yourself to him, be clear, direct, brief, and unemotional. Steel yourself before you see him and keep it up (don’t be so cold that you seem upset—take more of a bored tone). No matter what he does, don’t let yourself get worked up because he’ll just take that as proof that he’s right. (And he may try and work you up for that very reason so be on guard.) I’d say something like “Listen, you fucked up and you acted like an ass, and I don’t think you’re evil but I’m just not interested in putting in the time or energy to work things out with you. I don’t respect you, I don’t like you, why would I want you around at all? You can tell yourself that I’m dramatic and emotional all you like, I really don’t care what you think. Good-bye.” You may not want to be that harsh but you should be that straightforward.

But frankly, I don’t think it’s worth the effort. I think the reason he wants to be friends, and the reason he’s calling you over-dramatic and emotional for not wanting to be friends, is because of how it makes him look. I mean, everyone knows that most relationships don’t last forever, so the fact you two broke up isn’t telling of anything. But if two people want to be friends after breaking up that means the split wasn’t a personal indictment of the other: they still respect each other and like each other, they still believe the other is a good person and they want that person in their life. But if you don’t want to be this guy’s friend, that’s an indictment of him, a public sign of disrespect. He doesn’t want to acknowledge that he caused the split: he wants to think of it as natural and mutual. He doesn’t want to admit he made a mistake. And it’s a lot easier to think of the split as natural and impersonal if you and he become friends. You don’t want to be his friend, so now he either has to face-up to why that is, or come up with another reason. He’s not gonna want to let go of that reason, it makes him look good after all, so the more you engage with him about this, the only thing you accomplish is stretching it out and, really, proving his position that you are emotionally involved.

Whatever you do, good luck!

By the way, I think it’s a stretch to say you think he’s bipolar. I mean, I’m not comfortable with medical words being thrown around like that, I think medical diagnoses should be left to medical professionals. And really, what difference does it make, why he acted how he acted? For you it comes down to the how, right, and that is why you don’t want to be with him? So, I think it’s better for everyone (you, him, your readers) if you stick to what matters and what you know.

figbash's avatar

JP is right. Not only do you not want to continue throwing energy, time and thought into a dead-end relationship, but you also don’t want to hang out trying to convince him what a great girlfriend you’d make. It doesn’t sound like you even like him that much as a person. Tell him that you’re busy with your life and he just can’t be a priority anymore. Then move on.

Shemarq's avatar

I understand what you feel. He hurt you and you want to put him behind you. Just tell him that you would prefer not having any more contact with him. Tell him matter of factly, don’t yell, cry, just be firm. Then if he calls you, don’t pick up the phone, if he texts or emails you, don’t respond. If you see him in public and he approaches you, be cordial, but walk away. Sooner or later he’ll get the clue.

strange1's avatar

first you must log your dilemma with more than one friend or even the police, just so its on record. that will put your mind at rest to say without so much fear, whatever is necessary to end this relationship permanently.

barbiedoll's avatar

@melanie81 I had a similar problem. The guy I was going with for 2 years hid the fact that he actually was diagnosed Bipolar. When he got the commitment from me, I guess he decided to stop taking his meds, because I was shocked at the person he really was—abusive. I cut him off cold, I didn’t want to be friends or even acquaintances. I didn’t care about anything he said or promises or more verbal abuse. Tthere was some stalking, and he knew I would make good on my threats, so he had to stop contact. I did change my numbers anyway. What a relief!

Xilas's avatar

pretty much same thing happened with me – cept if was her idea we break up

i tried to be her friend

asked her how she was and if she was ok

and she always gave me short SHITTY answers. So i wrote her a long letter telling her how i felt and we haven’t talked since

melanie81's avatar

@nicobanks Can’t thank you enough for this advice – it’s almost as if you knew the whole story, details and all!

Sorry for throwing around the term “bipolar” – I meant it in a conversational, sarcastic way. I’m sure this guy isn’t bipolar; he’s just moody as hell, and can’t control who he takes his anger/pressure out on.

stemnyjones's avatar

Don’t worry about him thinking about your emotionally scarred. Why do you give a crap what he thinks if you don’t want to be friends with him?

Bottom line is, if he treated you like shit, you should leave him. I don’t care what the reason or excuse – if he knows he can get away with it, he will keep doing it.

melanie81's avatar

@stemnyjones @La_chica_gomela I understand that from the outside looking in, it seems as though I should be able to easily just “cut it off” and move on without a second thought on this guy or what he thinks about me. But come on, we’ve ALL been here. No matter how badly a relationship ends, you still have the good memories (in this case, from as recently as 3 days ago, before all this crap went down), and it’s hard to believe that someone you thought was such a good person could pull a jack-ass move out of nowhere. Yes, I’m a strong woman and will be completely over this guy in the next day or two. But I will admit, I’m still a little confused as to WHY and HOW someone can just change on a dime like he did. I completely plan on leaving this relationship, friendship and all. Everything was amazing just last week, before I left for a business trip to Chicago – and I came back to a wreck of a boyfriend. Needless to say, I know to walk away – I just want some insight on the situation.

stemnyjones's avatar

@melanie81 I know that this soon into it ending, we all have feelings like this. Trust me, I was engaged for two years when my fiancee come home from work one day and moved out, and never to this day have I gotten an explanation of why.

For months I couldn’t do anything but cry. I watched TV, and I saw something we used to watch together and cried. I listened to the radio, and I related with a sad song and cried. All I did was sit outside smoking and looking at my dog, and that made me cry too, because we got the dog together.

But, once you get over the inevitable heartache, I think you’ll fully realize that he isn’t even worth you asking this question. ;)

melanie81's avatar

@stemnyjones haha – well put :) Every time this happens, I think I’ll never get over it….and yet I always do. And each time, that amount of time gets shorter and shorter. With this guy, it lasted about an hour! Now I’m just sorting through the feelings and reminding myself that he won’t matter at all to me a year from now. It’s just hard because I’m naturally a very trusting person; yet I trust people less and less when shit like this goes down. And I really, __really__ don’t want to become jaded in love!

So sorry to hear about your fiancee – that is just terrible. I can’t imagine going through that. Just curious, have you had any luck in love since then? (I hope so!)

stemnyjones's avatar

@melanie81 Trust me no pun intended, it is hard to learn to trust again. I was always a very untrusting person, because of issues in my childhood years. I had just started to trust my fiancee when that happened, and I felt that I would never be able to trust again.

But four months ago I got into a new relationship (after a few short-lived, horrible ones after the fiasco with my fiance) and for some reason, I have trusted my s/o from the beginning. For once, my s/o hasn’t given me reason not to trust. Not only that, but we got together towards the end of my pregnancy, and despite all of the stress and problems we’ve run into by being new first-time parents (especially, for my s/o, taking care of a child that isn’t really theirs) we are going strong. This gives me great hope for our relationship ;D

flameboi's avatar

… just delete him from everything, facebook, myspace, twitter, your cellphone, you deserve a fresh start, so does the other person :D
good luck

BanginBaxter's avatar

Just forget about him…try to avoid him at all costs! Lose his number, ignore his texts. If he was that much of an asshole(I don’t know exactly what he did) you don’t owe him your time let alone an explanation”) However I am just curious…What did he do???

nicobanks's avatar

@melanie81 You’re very welcome, I’m glad I could help!

La_chica_gomela's avatar

@melanie81: You’re right. I’m still explaining to mutual friends that I have no interest in talking to, talking about, being around, or being friends with my ex after everything that’s happened, and we broke up 3 years ago. I guess I’m a little jaded about ex’s.

Delete their number, de-friend them on facebook, put/throw away photos of them, sell the jewelery they gave me, and forget ‘em. I’ve mastered everything except the last step!

liliesndaisies's avatar

I have too many friends available so I don’t usually make friends with an ex. :)

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