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Raine's avatar

Taking religion out of the equation, do you feel that there are any reasons to not allow gay marriage?

Asked by Raine (330points) December 15th, 2009

If you have one, I would be interested to know what it is.

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absalom's avatar

Even with religion there is no good reason to disallow gay marriage.

azlotto's avatar

Live and let live.

HighShaman's avatar

I can think of NO reason why the Federal and State Government should not allow Same Sex marriages .

It is NO ONE’s business who someone falls in love with and decides to Marry and make a home with….

Jacket's avatar

If we allow it, everybody will want to be gay! And there would be nothing but musicals in the video store!

Pandora's avatar

If you remove religion, than no. Congratulations, its the first time this question has been possed in this fashion. At least the first time I have seen it just narrowed down to the basic. Great questions.

Silhouette's avatar

We can leave religion in it as far as I am concerned. There is no reason in the world to deprive gay people the right to marry.

Silhouette's avatar

We can leave religion in it as far as I am concerned. There is no reason in the world to deprive gay people the right to marry.

CMaz's avatar

If I had a dollar for every time this question was asked I could take everyone out to dinner.

Then the abuse starts and nothing gets accomplished.

simpleD's avatar

Because marriage sucks, and we’d all be better off without it.
BItter? Yes.

Cotton101's avatar

hey, i feel like Kinky Friedman that ran for governor in Texas, “let them marry and be as miserable as the rest of us!”

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

((points to absolom’s answer on top and nods in agreement)) That’s more or less what I was going to say.

Shemarq's avatar

I like what Dolly Parton said about gay marriage. They have as much right to be miserable as the rest of us (or something like that) LOL!!! A person does not decide to be gay, they are just that way. They deserve the same rights and privledges as the rest of us. To use religion as a reason to disallow it is ridiculous. Nobody should have the right to force someone to be treated as a second class citizen just because they are gay.

ETpro's avatar

I can’t see any. Whom someone else marries is none of my business. We’ve had gay marriage legalized here in Massachusetts now for quite some time. The sky hasn’t fallen. Straights didn’t turn gay. School classrooms haven’t turned into indoctrination camps for the gay lifestyle. Every single thing that the anti-equality crowd claimed would go wrong has turned out to be a bunch of hooey.

GingerMinx's avatar

None what so ever. In New Zealand homosexuals can get a civil union which gives them all the same rights as a married couple. But I still feel it separates them and I can not see why they are not allowed to just marry someone.

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

I don’t think it’s natural.. biologically or otherwise… but… I really don’t want to go any farther than that with this same argument again..

filmfann's avatar

I am Christian, and I see no problem with allowing Gay Marriage.
Not all Christians are dicks.

breedmitch's avatar

@Shemarq: As an aside, Dolly Parton is a lesbian and has been with her partner for years.

HighShaman's avatar

@breedmitch Are you SURE ? Dolly had a long affair with a 15 year old boy MANY years ago and she paid off the parents to not file charges… She was ordered NOT to see him again .

Then; her and Porter Wagner were said to have been Heavily involved ; he even bought her a NEW Caddy many years back….

Shemarq's avatar

@breedmitch @HighShaman From what I heard she has been married to Carl Dean for over 40 years.

HighShaman's avatar

@Shemarq You are right about the marriage thing . She has been MARRIED to Mr. Dean since may 30, 1966.

Dr_C's avatar

The government should not be in a position to be able to legislate who a person loves. End. Of. Story.

phillis's avatar

One of my dearest friends just announced to me that last night he proposed to his partner of 4 years because he was almost sure that the area where he resides was going to pass the resolution that allows gays to marry, and sure enough, they did! I was almost as happy for him as I was for my own marriage. I nearly woke my husband!

There has been no reasonable argument ever levied against gays marrying whomever they love that made any sense.

@filmfann, ditto! I am about as Christian as they come, but I do not subscribe to
Christian Brainwash Weekly. Christians do not make my decisions for me, and intrusions upon my right to self-manage are not appreciated. I can handle things just fine without Pat Robertson’s input.

justn's avatar

Yes, because where will the line be drawn? If a man can marry a man and a woman can marry a woman, what’s to stop a man from wanting the right to marry more than one woman (or vice-versa). What’s to stop people from marrying animals? Oh wait, that’s happened (granted, that’s not in the US).

GingerMinx's avatar

@justn That is the same tired argument trotted out every time someone mentions gay marriage. There isn’t a single person I have seen who wants to marry an animal. What is wrong with making the marriage laws to state two adults of consenting age? Similar silly ideas were heard when women wanted the vote, should we have stopped that as well?

laureth's avatar

@justn – because marriage is a contract, and animals, children, and coffee tables can’t legally sign contracts.

On the other hand, when people of two races were finally allowed to marry, a certain element of the population said that it would lead to people marrying children and animals and coffeetables, and in hindsight, that doesn’t seem to have become a problem.

CMaz's avatar

“There isn’t a single person I have seen who wants to marry an animal.”

But there sure are plenty that fuck them.

LouLou's avatar

One of my best friends is gay and disregarding the issue of religion completely, whether it’s involved or not, I think it’s completely ridiculous and an infringement on her rights as a person not to be allowed to get married.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

@justn Perhaps we should work backwards from your response. Let’s propose that there be NO marriage between one man and one woman, because… then you might have a man wanting to marry another man or a woman wanting to marry another woman. Whoops—seems like we’re already on the slippery slope you wanted to avoid.

I think all of the objections against homosexual marriage (each and every argument, and especially including the religious ones) are bigotry, plain and simple. And no, I don’t want to marry my brother, my daughter, my dog, or any of my male co-workers or friends. (But I would marry Tom Brady in a heartbeat if he dumps Giselle.)

CMaz's avatar

If you take religion out of the equation.

It is irrelevant. Shack up with who ever you want for how long as you wish to. Who is stopping you?
It is between me and my partner as to what type of bond we have with one another.

So now we are purely talking about tax credits, insurance and pensions.

Jacket's avatar

God, I just wonder how our children will judge us. With a look of disbelief and amazement I gather.

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

@Jacket Prolly the same way we judge the people that did this exact same thing to blacks and women. As another page in the history books. Tis just how people roll. People have to fight each other for equality. And like the blacks and women before them the gays will succeed in time I am sure.

GingerMinx's avatar

@ChazMaz Laughs, yes there are. Just don’t mention sheep.

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

The government has no place in the bedrooms of the nation.

Those who are religious should be free to let it guide what they do in their own bedrooms – but it gives them no say in what goes on in any other bedroom.

Marriage is the right of any two consenting adults. Legal marriages confer on partners certain rights and obligations that do not apply to unmarried couples. This is true regardless of whether the weddings are officiated by judges, justices of the peace or clergy.

If those who wish to be lawmakers can not park their religious beliefs about how other people should live at the door of the legislature, then they should seek employment as clergy where their flock wants to be told how they should live.

Same sex couples can not insist that every church must consent to officiate at their wedding.

Far too many lawmakers use their religion as an excuse to impose their narrow views on everybody else. It has been used to justify segregation, lynchings, the deportation and gassing of millions of Jews in the holocaust, genocides around the world.

Clearly there are so many compelling reason to keep issues of religion separate from issues of state.

Finally, same-sex marriage poses no threat to opposite-sex marriage. Within organized religions, the religious significance of marriage will not be changed because marriages of same-sex couples take place elsewhere.

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