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What do they do with 3 month olds in daycare?

Asked by stemnyjones (3976points) December 30th, 2009

It looks like I’m going to be forced to go back to work and put my daughter in day care, but I’m kind of worried about it. I want my daughter raised a certain way; I don’t want her in front of a TV, and I don’t like to wait for her to cry to get her taken care of; she shows me when she’s hungry by smacking her lips, and I change her wet diapers before she cries about it.

I don’t expect a day care center to get to her before she starts crying; I understand that there is more than one baby per worker and that level of care would be near impossible.

I am wondering, though, what do they do with 3 month old babies in daycare? Do they just lay them in a crib and come by to feed and change them every once in a while, or are they more hands-on and play with/entertain the babies?

Also, do you supply your own diapers and formula, or does the daycare use their own? If they use their own: my baby is on soy formula – will they cater to this?

Please keep in mind I am talking about a 3 month old baby only. I don’t care what they do with 6 month old babies or two year olds.

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AstroChuck's avatar

Sorry. I misread the question. Removed by AC.

john65pennington's avatar

You have asked a world of questions that only your daycare can answer. i would suggest this…..each daycare i have ever been in has children with snotty noses. i know its impossible to keep the germs from spreading, but use a hand cleaner on both of you and buy a huge can of Lysol spray.

skfinkel's avatar

@stemnyjones It sounds like you have some good concerns about daycare for an infant. I have seen many, and I have a suggestion for you that I hope you are able to follow. Take your baby and spend a day with her in the daycare you have chosen. See how they take care of her. See if she is picked up, paid attention to, changed in a timely manner, played with, laughed with, held and cuddled. You can just peek from around the corner, from another room, so she can’t see you. If you like the way they care for your daughter, then use the place. If you don’t, find another place.

Have you cheched to make sure that your salary is more than what you will be spending in day care costs?

In any case, good luck.

smashbox's avatar

I know they don’t provide the formula and diapers, you have to provide that. If at all possible, I would not put your 3 month old in a daycare center, at such a young age. I would try and find a private sitter, your child will get more attention, this is from my families personal experience. I would definetly ask the workers at the day care center these questions. I know you are worried and feeled with anxiety, but don’t rush in, check the center out, inside and out, upside and down, before deciding. Ask them questions, until you are blue in the face.

Some centers have cameras, that you can take to your workplace, and it shows your baby, at all times, you might want to check one of those centers out, if you decide to put your baby in a day care. It’s a great piece of mind technology. Good luck.

Blondesjon's avatar

Is it too early in the thread to quip, “Juggle them.”?

I wish I could give you something to put your mind at ease but 3 months old? That is a very tough call for a Mommy and I wish you the best of luck. If it’s any consolation, most times shit turns out just fine.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

This must be difficult for you to come to terms with – I know it’d be, for me…I walked by a neighborhood nursery once and they had these tiny babies on the floor on a nice rug and toys around them and two caregivers on the edge of the circle playing with them…I am assuming they play with them, feed them, put them to sleep..as for having a TV, you should always go check out the place beforehand…and ask moms around your area…

Seek's avatar

From the daycares I worked in (three different ones over a few years)

You supply everything. There will probably be a bin where her diapers, wipes, and extra clothes are kept, all marked with her name on it. If she is on formula, you are to provide the required number of bottles, already prepared, for that day. They will be kept in the fridge.

Diapers will be changed every two hours, unless she’s poopy (that’s immediate). Feedings will be on the schedule you require. Be aware that if your daughter only consumes part of a bottle, the rest will have to be thrown away after one hour for sanitary purposes (they don’t return used bottles back into the fridge to keep bacteria down)

She’ll be put on the floor for “tummy time” for (at the very least) ½ hour out of the day. The rest of the time she’ll be transferred between bouncy chairs, her crib (with toys and/or for naps), a swing, and playing with the teachers. They may add in ½ hour to 1 hour of “outside” time a day. This may be outside on a blanket, or on a covered patio.

I’ll tell you from my personal experience, daycare teachers love watching the little ones grow, and they’re very willing to help teach your daughter little things like playing with sensory toys and crawling. We get almost as excited as the parents when one of “our babies” does something amazing.

edit to add: Florida law states under 1 year old children have a ratio of four babies to each teacher maximum.

stemnyjones's avatar

@Blondesjon I think the government should think about making at least 3 months manditory paid by your job, 6 weeks is nothing…

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@stemnyjones hear, hear! completely agree.

smashbox's avatar

@Stemnyjones, I agree. Some companies do, to bad you aren’t working for one of them. sigh. edit

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@smashbox yea the organization I work for, the American Cancer Society, pays 3 months for maternity leave…and ahem, I might need it soon….don’t know…

stemnyjones's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr Thanks for the answer, that puts me at ease a little… but on the other hand, I have read a lot of bad things about day care centers with young babies, and I have to keep in mind as well that I’m going to have to put her in one that accepts state-funded help (the state has a list of daycare centers that, if I place my child in, they will help pay a certain percentage of the costs), and I’m worried that the state-funded ones might be less professional or too over-crowded…

Blondesjon's avatar

@stemnyjones . . . I think you all should get six months. My wife, @jonsblond, has been able to spend a great deal of her time raising our three kids from home. They are all exceptionally bright, polite, straight A students. I think this is largely due to the influence of having a full time parent around.

they all have a bit of a mouth on ‘em too. wonder where they got that?

Seek's avatar

@stemnyjones

I worked for a state-funded daycare for about a year and a half, as a 1½ year old teacher and a reliever in the Infants room.

Those centers do tend to have a higher teacher turnover rate (since they pay less), but they are subject to the same teacher/child ratio, and they are visited more often by regulation officials, so there’s no real worry of overcrowding. I would visit often, and make sure you make yourself known to not only your daughter’s teachers, but the “big cheese” of the facility. If they know you have your nose firmly buried in their business, they’ll take care of you. ^_^

stemnyjones's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr And if I can’t visit often? HOPEFULLY I’ll only have to have her in daycare part-time, but there’s a good chance that I’ll be working 9 hours a day, and won’t have time to peek in when she’s there. Is there more of a chance in a state-funded daycare that my child won’t be as well taken care of as she would be in one not funded by the state?

SeventhSense's avatar

I don’t know but check this out Every mom should have one of these.

smashbox's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir, you are very fortunate, to have been giving 3 months.

—Finding quality childcare for your child(ren), is ONE of the hardest decisions a parent will make, when being a parent.—

Seek's avatar

By “visit often” I mean mostly just sticking around and asking questions about her day when you pick her up, and giving instructions when you drop her off, as opposed to just dropping her off, and grabbing her and leaving. (You’d be amazed how many parents never asked us a single thing. Ever.)

I don’t think she’s necessarily at risk for lower quality treatment for being in a state-funded center. It was the rich-kid center that had a teacher break a 3 year old’s arm, and the state-funded center that taught a severely neglected 18 month old how to walk, eat solid food, and begin speaking – without any help from the foster parents.

stemnyjones's avatar

omg, did the “thank yourself” button just appear, or have I been missing something wonderful all this time?

Seek's avatar

@SeventhSense

I’m waiting for the lawsuit against that company, when a three month old drowns on formula…

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@smashbox oh when I had my two kids, I didn’t work for these people…unfortunately…

stemnyjones's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr Wow, it’s really heart warming to hear about the 18 month old… just out of curiosity, though, because the center is state-funded, shouldn’t they have been required to report the problem to CPS?

Seek's avatar

This particular boy was neglected by his mother, and transferred to a foster parent. The foster parent was an old woman, who didn’t know anything about rehabilitation. The daycare center hired an occupational therapist, and she and I worked our asses off to get little Ian up to speed.

The foster mom was a lovely lady, just wasn’t the right caregiver for him. He was eventually transferred to another home, but by then he was eating normally, and happily running circles around the other kids – and he had 15 words under his belt!

SeventhSense's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr
I guess it could be an issue if the screw top isn’t on tight but as an extra hand for a car trip or while sitting on a bench sounds pretty good. And I think even accidents would probably just leave the kid sputtering and annoyed
now if someone left their kid with one like a hamster in a room alone I’d be worried

stemnyjones's avatar

@SeventhSense In the car? The bottle would be hitting my baby in the face with every bump.

SeventhSense's avatar

I’m a guy. What do I know. It didn’t look that dangerous. I don’t imagine it would be marketed if it was.
Check it out here

Buttonstc's avatar

@7th

You really are a guy. She specified her baby is only 3 months old. Maybe an older baby could handle that but not at 3 mos.

@Simone

That was a little hint you dropped, wasn’t it. When will you know for sure ?

stemnyjones's avatar

Unfortunately, lots of dangerous things are marketed, like crib bumpers (the AAP or APA or whoever they are recommend against them because of suffocation risks) and sleep positioners (dangerous because a baby can slide down and suffocate themselves).

Darwin's avatar

We tried several options with our daughter (poor kid – her brother benefited greatly from her serving as a guinea pig). What we found is that the care depends a huge amount on the individual caregivers.

When she was tiny, our daughter was at a YWCA-sponsored daycare. All went well until the woman in charge of the tiniest ones retired and moved. Then the center got a new director and care went downhill in a major hurry. We found out what was going on because we had made friends with some of the staff, and one called us to say that our daughter’s eye had been injured but the center decided not to tell us. We ended up at the ER where it was discovered that she had a bad scratch on her cornea.

We moved her to a Montessori-based school after that, where she did very well. Her brother joined her there when he was three-months old and did well, also. The babies were changed every two hours at least, fed the formula we supplied, given quite a bit of floor time and lap time, and even got a bit of outdoor time in a strange six-baby stroller set up. The staff spent a fair amount of time playing with the babies, and babies were kept more or less on the schedules that the parents reported from home.

The best thing would be for you to find other people who you trust and who had to send a small baby to daycare and ask them what places both to look at and to avoid. We found the good school by recommendations from friends, and by recommendations from the local University education department.

skfinkel's avatar

For what it’s worth, I think every mother should have a minimum of one year paid leave, health care while she isn’t working (that piece may soon be solved), and social security accumulating while she is home. This is done in other countries.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@Buttonstc it was…i’m kind of waiting to take the test…don’t know why…so I’m just sitting around basically, late with my period…not doing anything about it

Pandora's avatar

I worked in the infant side of daycare some years ago. Now keep in mind not all daycares are the same or daycare workers. Ask if you may observe one day. A good daycare will allow that. We usually would follow a schedule and keep in mind all babies were dealt with on a first basis. It is best if you feed your baby before arriving. Many parents will drop off their kids about the same time and if the class has several infants who cannot hold their bottles than the decision to feed first depends on who came first and who is the loudest crier. Also breakfast for the table babies are set in a permanent schedule which may mean a daycare worker will have one baby being fed by bottle and may be spoon feeding 2 other children. Your baby will not get the individual care. If you can schedule your babies first feeding right after the spoon fed children than your child will have an easier time and more individual care at the time of feeding. Infants are usually put on the floor mats for play time unless they are scheduled for a nap. Routine is important in making a room run smoothly for all the children and with routine individual time for the infants can be scheduled. Usually the class is broken into 2 groups. In our class we had 8 children for 2 care givers. Out of the 8 only 4 could be under 6 months and the other 4 were up to 1year old or 11 months. They would move on to the next age group once they can walk well and eat well.
Any how infants would be with care givers on the floor playing with mirrors or peek aboo or we would hold them and rock them as we played with the other 3. As they got older they would be more independent and explore more without much assistance. Infants require all assistance but sometimes if where were busy they can be entertained with hanging toys for visual stimulation and music. Actually infants are watched extremely well because 3 month olds usually are the higher risk group and we have to make sure other infants don’t harm them. So when they are not at play, being fed or being changed (which we did every 2 hours unless they soiled earlier) they would be asleep. Most 3 month olds sleep a tremendous part of the day. We did not try to keep them up on purpose unless sleep would disrupt their feeding schedule. Some sleep more than others. Some parents wished for us to keep them up all day so they wouldn’t wake at night. That was not our job. We would assist with sleep schedules when they got older not at 3 months. Just thought I would let you know.

wundayatta's avatar

When my kids were three months old, I believe they were teaching them roller derby techniques.

Well…. my son did fall in love with his first girl. She became the children’s favorite baby sitter for maybe ten years. Where we sent them, they probably knew more about the babies than we did.

Darwin's avatar

My kids still sometimes see Miss Maureen, who was in charge of the baby room and later on the toddler rooms at the Montessori School. They adore her still. You could always tell the babies who had been with Miss Maureen – they would all say “ooohhh, mannnnnnnnn!” with her precise intonation.

SeventhSense's avatar

@Buttonstc
They can’t eat steak either? poor little moppets

Seek's avatar

@SeventhSense

The biggest thing is that with a contraption like that, the kids can’t get the bottle out of their mouths when they’re finished. You should never prop up a bottle with your baby – they leak even when the child isn’t actively eating, and that can cause aspiration of the milk/formula/whatever, and lead to drowning.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

My day care center provided both formula and diapers, but not all do. Here are the three things that I looked for, and I think they are still valid today, even though my children are grown:
1. Staff turn-over rate. How long have the staff worked for the center? The longer, the bettter because it means that people like to work there, even if it’s a low-paying job.
2. Infant to Staff ratio in infant room lower than state mandate
3. Does the director have a degree in early childhood education?
4. What do parent communications look like?
5. What is the developmental plan for graduation to the next level? How/when to they teach sippy cup, eating with utensils, stairs, etc.?
6. How supportive are they of breastfeeding mothers (even if you are not, you want a center that is.)
7. What types of outside activities are there—walks, play area, etc.

In a good center, there won’t be any television time, unless it’s planned. That was the reason why I chose a church run center as opposed to care in a private home. Some of the best friends that I have are other parents that I met through day care.

SeventhSense's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr
Check out the video
Going to play poker with the boys.

Likeradar's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr Not to mention the missed bonding by having some lame ass contraption hold the bottle for you…

Judi's avatar

Every daycare is different. it looks like you already have begun a list of criteria you will be looking for. Now you have to get out there and start interviewing.

MissAusten's avatar

@PandoraBoxx gave an excellent list above. I worked in an infant room at a daycare (and later in the toddler room) for about five years. The ratio there was 1 teacher for every 4 infants. The ratios vary from state to state, and I truly hope yours has a low ratio like that.

Another thing to look for is a center that will keep to your schedule for the baby, not their own. In other words, your baby should eat and sleep when you say, not when they feed all of the babies or put all of the babies down for naps. This actually makes things much easier on the cargivers because a 3 month old will not be on the same schedule as an 8 month old.

The center should have a policy against propping bottles. Babies should always be held when being given a bottle. At the center where I worked, we didn’t even have high chairs. Younger infants were fed in a bouncy seat that was only used for feeding. Older babies that could sit up well sat in little chairs at a little table. The idea was to avoid any kind of situation where a child could be restrained.

We also had a strict hand-washing policy and everything in the infant room was sanitized at the end of the day. The infant room had a head teacher to supervise everyone and make sure the policies were followed. In all the time I worked there, I never once saw anything to make me question the care the teachers gave the children. Try to forget what you’ve read about daycare. Yes, there are some crappy ones out there. They make the news because no one is interested in hearing about the excellent centers.

As for what we did with 3 month old babies, we met their needs and played with them. We had soft areas for babies who were not crawling. Lots of small toys to hold, board books to read to them, and buggies or strollers for walks. On rainy days, we’d take stroller walks up and down the halls. The playground area for infants was shared with toddlers. We had a sand box, small riding and push toys, and would take a blanket outside for the smaller babies to lay in the shade. At naptime, we followed the parents’ suggestions for getting the baby to sleep. Some babies could go into the crib and fall asleep on their own, while others would be rocked to sleep and then placed into a crib. They each had their own crib, and the sheets were washed each night. We were not allowed to let them cry themselves to sleep. As soon as they were awake, we took them out of the cribs. The cribs were never used for containing babies, only for sleeping. We kept a daily log for each child, writing down when they ate, how much they ate, when they had diaper changes, and if the diapers were wet or dirty. Bowel movements were changed immediately. Otherwise, we changed diapers every two hours. When parents brought their children in, they would write on the log sheet when the baby woke up that morning and when he or she was last fed and changed. At the bottom of the sheet we’d write something about the child’s day, like “Joey giggled a lot when we sang songs after his nap.”

When you visit centers, besides asking about turnover, ask about training for the teachers. Is it ongoing? What’s the average level of education? Does the center have a nurse, at least part-time? How many of the staff are certified in first aid and CPR? Do they have an open-door visitation policy? Parents should be allowed to stop in at any time, without calling first. What is their sick policy, hand-washing policy, and cleaning schedule? Spend as much time in the classroom with the actual teachers as you can. Do they talk to babies, play, read, and sing to them? Do they spend most of their time actually down on the floor with the children, or do they stay on their feet mainly talking to each other? Do the teachers let the older babies fingerpaint? What is their discipline policy? How do they handle biting? Biting is a very common infant and toddler behavior. Most of all, do the babies seem content with the caregivers? Do the caregivers give off the warm-fuzzies?

All of these things can also apply to a home-based daycare. In that case, I’d only suggest that you try to find a caregiver who only has one infant at a time, is licensed, and can provide excellent references.

I know it’s hard to imagine that two teachers can care for eight babies without neglecting them. It’s scary to trust your baby to someone you’ve just met and hard to let go. However, trusting the caregivers is really important. Go with your instincts when you visit daycare centers, ask a lot of questions, and take your time. It really does work out, and can even be an excellent resource for you. You end up becoming close to the caregivers, who will probably fall madly in love with your baby. I can still tell you about every child I took care of, and the caregivers who took care of my children are still friends of ours. It’s been five years since I worked at the center!

Good luck, I know you’ll do great! I could go on about this forever, but this is already really really long. PM me if you have any other daycare questions!

stemnyjones's avatar

Thanks everyone, you’re all really helpful.

It’s kind of disheartening that sometimes you have to go with the church-based centers to get what you want. We are not a Christian household, and I will teach my child about God when she starts asking, but I will also explain that no one really knows the truth, and what she believes in is entirely up to her, but she should always respect other people’s beliefs. I don’t want her in a situation where religion will be forced down her throat as she gets older.

Right now I’m looking for a part-time job where I can work 4 hours a day. This is ideal, so that my mother can watch her before she goes in to work. If I can’t seem to find a part-time job, I’ll have to return to my full-time job and search for a suitable daycare… but hopefully that won’t be necessary.

MissAusten's avatar

@stemnyjones My youngest goes to a church-based preschool, but the preschool program is, for the most part, secular. The only thing they do is have a “snack prayer” before snack. My son likes to say the prayer sometimes before we eat at home, and it is very sweet. Just a rhyming and general “thank you.”

heavensdoll's avatar

I am a teacher @ early head start. I can say we write lesson plans and involve each child 2 weeks to 3 years old in every part of it. We hold their hands while they hold crayons. We paint with them and read to them. We eat family style, no use of highchairs, swings or any other confining chairs. We have tummy time and allow them interact, its funny at how the older ones can be so calm and caring to the babies. I have seen them lay on the boppy and an older child get on the floor next to them and talk and they will look in the mirrors at each other. We go for nature walks in our wagons or buggies. Infants and toddlers eat and sleep on demand, so when they are sleeping we do put them into the cribs. But they are not just left there, we have to do 15 min checks and sign off on them. We also provide diapers, wipes, formula and everything needed for the children in our classes. We brush teeth after lunch, provide meals and snacks. Its a blessing for those who really need it and a reward for some who abuse it. Look into your head start or early headstart programs.

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