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Is it true that some Americans are afraid of the people of Haiti?

Asked by Sandydog (1265points) January 18th, 2010

If you read the story in this link you’ll see what I’m on about.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6991697.ece

Apparantly some US soldiers helping in Haiti were afraid of the people because of what they had heard of Voodoo in 2008.

If this story is accurate then the world is truly mad.

When we were in Kentucky lots of people there said the people of New Orleans were getting what they deserved when hurricane Katrina struck, and I was astounded at that.

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lilikoi's avatar

Fear is perpetuated by ignorance. I am an American (not a proud one) and I am certainly not afraid of Haitians.

J0E's avatar

That really wouldn’t surprise me.

Narl's avatar

@lilikoi I love your answer, fear IS perpetuated by ignorance.

marinelife's avatar

People fear what they do not understand. It is ingrained in us as human beings. It comes from tribal times—that which is other is to be feared.

Sandydog's avatar

Please remember that I said SOME Americans,not all. !!!! Theres good and bad in all countries

fireinthepriory's avatar

That is awful. I hadn’t heard about this, but I live in New England where we don’t place much value in stories of witchcraft. We have Salem, MA to remind us that nothing good comes of it.

Your_Majesty's avatar

Only if they’re not rational.

lilikoi's avatar

@Narl Thanks

@Sandydog Yes, we have a name for the fear of chickens. Seems perfectly logical to me that people would fear each other.

Snarp's avatar

@Sandydog You did say some, but you chose to single out Americans. It would also probably be just as accurate to say some Britons, some Irishmen, some Japanese, and some Arabs are afraid of the people of Haiti. Yes some are, but the overwhelming majority are not.

Sandydog's avatar

@snarp I singled out Americans because of the article…...no other reason.

bea2345's avatar

This is very similar to the American perception of Cuba. It is based on ignorance, and worse, an unwillingness to learn better. I cannot believe the Rev. Robertson, is he a nut of some kind? People who sell their souls to the Devil flourish like the green bay tree, otherwise the Devil is no salesman.

Snarp's avatar

@Sandydog I see, but the title of the question makes it sound like Americans are being singled out because we are some kind of backward, ignorant hicks not on par with the rest of the world. Which is only true of those from Kentucky.

Sandydog's avatar

America is the worlds only superpower and with that comes the ability to call the shots, as the article says. With power comes responsibility.

Snarp's avatar

@Sandydog I think this article you’ve linked is highly biased. The author makes a point out of the fact that the American government response is being handled by the Pentagon and that we are sending military ships and personnel. Frankly, there’s nothing unusual about that. The military has the training, the equipment, and the organizational structure to respond quickly. The American media mentions looting because, just like this article, the American media likes to sensationalize things. That’s unfortunate, but is in no way different in the U.S. from the rest of the world. The article compares Haiti to post-Katrina New Orleans, suggesting that looting (the article’s word is pillaging, which I’ve never heard U.S. media use) was worse there than in Haiti. This may or may not be true, but if you had seen the U.S. media coverage of Katrina you would have gotten plenty of looting in the media there too. In fact that media coverage is probably why the author of this article thinks there was more looting in New Orleans (since I doubt anyone actually has any exact evidence of the amount of looting in either case). The mention of voodoo in the article is in fact a memory from 1994 and has nothing to do with the current situation. It’s not your fault that you misunderstood that, the author wanted you to, that’s why the article is structured as it is. Statements like this: “the Haitian people seem to scare aid workers more than Somali warlords, Darfuri Janjawid or Afghan Taleban”, entirely unsubstantiated by any kind of factual background are inflammatory. Interestingly, in spite of the author’s desire to attack Americans, it is Dutch aid workers they say abandoned a mission and Belgian doctors who were evacuated.

I don’t doubt that Americans, like anyone else from a wealthy nation who has not been to Haiti, probably have a somewhat inaccurate negative view of Haiti, but the fact remains that Haiti has experienced a lot of violence (some of it our fault as Americans – but just as much France’s fault and some their own fault) and has not been a particularly safe place even before the earthquake. It is also true that in the wake of this sort of earthquake people are often desperate and will do desperate things.

So I am talking here about the article, not about you. I think the article has a strong anti-American bias and it is not objective. It is just one more attack on the people who are sending enormous amounts of money, equipment, and personnel to help the people of Haiti just because they are not doing enough fast enough. These attacks bother me because, while I’m sure a lot of mistakes have been made, the biggest things keeping aid from reaching the Haitian people are the scale of the disaster, the complete lack of existing infrastructure in place in Haiti, and the desperate poverty of the Haitian people.

If anyone wants to blame the U.S. for the lack of infrastructure and the poverty, then they have a case, but attacking us for not helping fast enough is, under the circumstances, petty. I can’t blame the Haitian who is hungry and thirsty and wondering where her family is for feeling that way, but I can blame a wealthy European journalist.

oratio's avatar

@Snarp Yes. GA. But I am not sure why you blame the French. That’s 200 years ago. Do you blame the problems in the US on the British?

Snarp's avatar

@oratio Because France never stopped being highly involved in Haitian politics, just because they no longer ruled the country.

gemiwing's avatar

Hey not all of us in Kentucky are fear-mongering morons.

oratio's avatar

@Snarp Since the 1800’s and the US occupation, Monroe doctrine, 32 coups and the Doc’s? Ah well. I am not defending France and their former imperialism. They have had their fingers in far too many places in history as well.

Snarp's avatar

@gemiwing I just love to pick on Kentucky.

Trillian's avatar

@Snarp, GA, and Lurve to you. I noticed something along this line Sunday morning as I was getting ready to go home from my shift, and decided against asking my Fluther family about it. But since someone else brought it up….
Let me say that I for one, did not appreciate the seeming sentiment when the reporters seemed to be implying that “we” were not doing enough. There were people in villages who were “forced” to help people on their own without assistance from rescue workers or equipment. I felt the implied sentiment was that America should be doing ever so much more and sending more than we’re already in the process of sending. Then another group of men from another village WALKED to Port Au Prince and complained that their village was one that “the world had forgotten.” (Their words or the press, I don’t know) but they had walked I guess for about two days to get to the capitol, armed with machettes (Spelling?) and were “willing to fight” to get help in their village where people were still trapped. Fight who, I wonder. The relief workers?
So, their able-bodied asses left the village where people were still trapped, walked for two days because vehicles can’t negotiate the roads yet, and want to bully people into coming to their village before they’ve finished where they are.
So, I don’t know about you but I resent the implication and the sentiment. We’ve all sent our ten dollars, and are airlifting stuff in from the military. The aid is getting to the victims as quickly as the officials can arrange it. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that those men’s time would have been better spent staying home and helping people the best they could, maybe sending ONE person as a runner to REQUEST additional help. Why is it that as soon as you attempt to assist people, the reaction of some is to want to sit back and do nothing themselves and gripe and complain about how long everything is taking? Os it just me?
Afraid of Haitians? I’m an American, and I never heard of such a thing. Unless they come at me with a machette while I’m trying to help. That might irritate me and make me a bit less willing to help out.

Trillian's avatar

@Snarp, btw, I’m originally from Detroit, but I moved to Kentucky after I got out of the navy. There is a lot of material here to pick on, I grant you. but it’s quiet and relaxed which is great after fifteen years of huge, busy navy towns.

gemiwing's avatar

@Snarp I know, everyone does. I just like to poke back (it’s only fair)

Snarp's avatar

Besides, Alabama, Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas, and Texas deserve a break now and then.

Trillian's avatar

@Snarp You left out Oklahoma. Straight family tree Oklahoma.

laureth's avatar

When I was a kid and would be afraid of spiders and bugs, my mom would always tell me, “Don’t worry, @laureth, they’re probably waaay more afraid of you than you are of them.”

Not that I want to equate the Haitian people with bugs and spiders, but I think the rest of my mom’s advice holds true for this one.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

all things must be true for some people.

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