Would it be better if fluther has the 'Blacklist' feature?

If that were the case, you wouldn’t get many answers at all. There would no longer be any point in your being here.

But hey, I can compromise. If we cannot use self control, why not make it a timed thing? Your idea, but nothing permanent. Say, 24 hours of not hearing from those who disagree with us?

So you want a public forum where everyone agrees with each other and skips hand in hand in a field of daffodils?
With website’s like these, everyone has their own identity and every once in a while these identities clash with other identities. Conflict and debate are normal. It’s what makes us all individuals.
The only thing you can do is flag an answer/question or report a user if they’re bothering you. You cannot control who has access to the questions you ask. If you’re going to ask a question and open a topic for public consumption, be prepared for people to disagree with you in any way they see fit. Thinking otherwise is just silly and naive.

@phillis It depends on one’s preferences(Some don’t like disagreement,some don’t life personal attack,etc). I appreciate the pro and con here. But I won’t tolerate destructive comment and personal attack.

No I like it as it is. Good that everyone has differing viewpoints, it adds to interesting discussions.

If you won’t tolerate it, then why are you still living it? As of 5 minutes ago, it was in the past. All this question does is recreate – by your own hand – what you insist you won’t tolerate. That doesn’t make any sense, dear.

@Vunessuh See my last post.

@partyparty That’s good. As I said before I have no problem with that. But we also know some people who focus more on insulting/off topic/seeking attention,etc rather than answer accurately to the question. When one involved emotion in his/her answer it would become irrational and may cause inappropriate conflict.

I didn’t get any daffodils :(

@phillis Will insults make any sense?

It is kind of what makes fluther,fluther arguing, personal attacks, clever remarks that don’t answer the question,going off topic etc…. So it won’t happen. Nice ideal though.

@Doctor_D Yes, well if insults started flying then I suppose it would be up to the mods to intervene (if that is what their role is). :-)

@partyparty Yes the mods are suppose to ideally take care of this though , and I aint insulting them or fluther when I say this, but I don’t believe they always do a fair job of getting rid of questions/answers that should not be there. I flag couple only to never get a response as to why it was not removed or no removal at all….

@Doctor_D It doesn’t matter whether you don’t like disagreement or personal attacks. I don’t like anal, but you’ve been a pain in my ass for several days now.
Get over yourself and thicken your skin. Perhaps you’re way too sensitive to be here.
Again, if you don’t like what a user has to say IGNORE them or REPORT them and let the mods take care of it. You do not have control over who can participate on one of your questions.

@phillis I’m sorry. Here you go, hun.

@Vunessuh Prolly did not use enough lube, come over some time I promise it wont hurt! ;D lol

@Doctor_D The thing is, you can’t control what others decide to do (obviously, right?). All you can do is control yourself. I mean, I could go down this path with you and piss and moan about how people are rude or mean or whatever, but in the end, there is no denying that you recreated the same atmoshphere that you promised yourself you would not tolerate. I don’t think the problem is them, darlin’. You’re stuck in a loop. The good news is that you can get out of it. The not-so-fun news is that you have to let it go, in order to get out of it.

Are you ready to do that? We can take it to private, if you want, and I will go with you. There’s just one condition. If I go with you, you cannot come back to this thread ever again. You game?

lol…guys it is just a website.

Sounds like an alright idea….. although if you’re having issues with another user then they can always be reported, or you can just avoid Fluther for a few days.

@partyparty That’s true. I suggest the ‘Blacklist’ feature only as an addition.

@Disaster_Porn That’s also true. When I flag a post they seem don’t care about it. Maybe that isn’t their criteria of bad post.

@Vunessuh Since when I control other people? When I always respect other people and only defending myself against destructive post.

@Phillis Why can’t I come back anyway? (I don’t know why your name won’t go red).

@JeffVader I like your idea. I’ve done that and it wasn’t really that effective.

Gossip/Specifics?

Because it’s time to close the book on this unhappy chapter, and never relive it again. We need to leave this where it belongs – in the past. I just thought you might enjoy some company while we’re at it :)

I am nobody, but I strongly prefer no names be mentioned. It has all the potential in the world to explode. Please, let’s not go that route.

There are a few members that irritate the living shit out of me…and although I almost always regret reading their posts, once in awhile they do have something interesting/insightful to say…something I would have missed had they been “blocked”.

@phillis (Ah red again) Am I not enjoying it now? Maybe I’m overlooked this site. In my country one can be charged by law for insulting/degrading other people in electronic media(included many sites,like Facebook for example). I saw other people that have been sued for attacking someone in Facebook in my country.

@FutureMemory Love to hear that!. Maybe they really deserve our second chance.

Okay, @Doctor_D. I am not angry. It wouldn’t be fair if I didn’t mention that you could have chosen a much more secure environment by joining me. But you aren’t ready to let this go, so I respect your decision.

You know, my husband and I have had many cultural clashes, even though we love each other very much. I understand how frustrating a cultural difference can be. The biggest mistake I made was judging his character while I was still angry with him. I hope you are able to handle cultural differences better than I did. Use my mistake as an example of what NOT to do when you’re angry.

@phillis Also a good point! Maybe I should be patient and be more tolerant.

@Doctor_D Nobody could possibly ask for more than that. Well done :)

yes, I needed that once.

I don’t like this idea. It wouldn’t be fair to not allow someone to voice their opinion on specific questions. Fluther is a free, public website for everyone to share their thoughts.
And what about those people who look forward to knowing another member’s opinion on a particular subject, but can’t because they are blocked from answering? It just seems unnecessary. I would support the idea to block personal comments coming in from certain members, but that’s as far as I’d go.

@Doctor_D Filtering or blocking I’m sure is done hourly here by the mods you just don’t see it happening. If peace and quiet and choice of company is what you are after, try blogs and chat rooms.

Taks all the fun out of it ;)

Many other similar sites have gone downhill quite quickly once they instated block systems.
Then you just get stupid questions and attack OPs talking about so and so blocked me but still attacks me…bla bla bla…Boring…

There would be the issues of non-equivalent frames of reference.

I thought that is why people used sites like this. It’s fun to be annoying, provocative, argumentative etc. Isn’t it?

@josie No that certainly isn’t fun. Being ‘annoying, provocative, argumentative’ isn’t construtive… joining in with the discusion and sharing your views, ideas and being helpful IS constructive.

@partyparty you took the words right out of my mouth. GA!

@jonsblond Thanks… I just had to answer @josie as soon as I saw their perspective on Fluther.

Yawn.

I just try to be nice, not judgemental and avoid conflict. And I stay away from fluther when I’m in a bad mood/have stress/etc. This way hopefully no-one would want to block me =P

No I do not think that users should have the blacklist feature.

It is illusory that a question asker has any control over their question.

No, but things would be better if you knew how to use the conditional tense.

@partyparty Suit yourself

I think if you started to restrict usability of the site site in such a way, many members would simply leave and not come back. I know I’ve had a number of my questions not turn out the way I intended them to, but I just accepted it and moved on. We’re a diverse group of people, and the way we ask and answer questions is diverse as well. So, you can’t really force a question to go a certain way, you just have to hope it does, and learn to accept it if it doesn’t.

@bob_ English is not his first language. Chill out.

@FutureMemory It’s not my first language either. I’m chilled.

@FutureMemory Also, it’s a she.

@bob_ it’s a she.

As the kids say, “my bad”.

Let me just throw in my opinion/vote here. . . NO.

I must be honest, I have been lucky with most of my answerers, even if I didn’t like their comments they made sense. So I guess that part should stay the same. However, how about if we can “hide” our questions from someone who is studying all your questions? I am not saying someone is, but wouldn’t it be fair to only open our “profiles” to those we wished? For privacy reasons? Or do we have that function already?

Blacklist? Wouldn’t it be much easier if you all just agreed with everything I say? Just give me the answers that I want to hear and everything will be perfect. In the process, don’t be tempted to use sarcasm or express any indication of emotion of any kind. You can’t. Remember, you are all my puppets, and I pull the strings.

You mean like McCarthy?

@thriftymaid What are, some kind of commie? I mean, erm, nevermind.

Out of the mouth, speaks the heart… ouch

@Violet I feel left out :(

* goes sit all by himself in the corner *

@bob_ I’m sorry, maybe she’ll say something mean to you soon

@bob_ Just disagree with her. That ought to do it.

All those embolden comments really make me think of a verbally abusive parent. It’s so hard to look at it. I’m sure it’s harder to hear. I feel sorry for the person who said those things. That is one hurtin’ heart.

That’s what I get for being a nice guy.

* SuperSoaks @Violet *
* Drops a Margarita on @Vunessuh‘s lap *

@Violet Hot damn…..that long answer with the quotes was great…:)

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies Doctor D, the girl who asked the question, said all of those things and more
@bob_ vagina punch!!.... oh shit, I’m so sorry! Are you ok?

@Violet Do you have a link to the question where those comments occurred? I’m curious now.

@jeffgoldblumsprivatefacilities yep, here you go

Yes @Violet, I figured that. It was very clear. I just didn’t want to rub it in by saying her name again. I feel really sorry for the hurt that person is feeling. It’s such an obvious outcry. Yes I know she hurts others in the process, but that’s more of a frustration to anyone with their head on straight. Only the fragile will actually be hurt by those comments. The real sufferer is Doctor D. I’ve known that personality type before. It’s painful to watch someone self destruct like that. Admittedly, ashamedly, I’ve been that person before. It’s an awful person to be. It’s just awful. Not what we’re intended for. And it’s a real tough morning when I finally wake up to discover my life is broken so badly that I find myself degrading people like that. It’s an awful thing to face and I feel sorry for her. I wish her wellness.

I think we should drop it.

@bob_ We’re the only people here who know what I was talking about

@Violet Just for your information: “I never attack/mean toward other people first,they(and you) are the one who start to attack me first”. I simply defending myself.

But I think it doesn’t matter anymore. Ah…I feel so great after I ignoring these babies. Because they simply aren’t good enough to deserve my comment. And I won’t ruin my day for worthless talk.

@Doctor_D No, they only disagreed with you. You attack when people when they don’t agree with them. Like by calling people babies.
And you’re NOT “ignoring these babies”
And you said “Because they simply aren’t good enough to deserve my comment” but THAT was a comment! AH HA HA HA!!!

[mod says] Answer removed for repeating personal attacks that have since been removed from the other thread.

@Violet No(seems like you didn’t see the point). I said I appreciate whether it’s agreement or disagreement. I never attack for disagreement(I appreciate the pro and con). I simply defend myself for sarcastic words and insults. (I don’t say this because I want to comment again,but because I just want to clarify this issue).

The last post was my last comment(including this very last post). I don’t care anymore if you people keep flooding this thread with personal attack and leading this this thread to off topic state and offending tread.

I am finding that there are those on here (and I would not exclude them with any sort of blacklist) who attack certain questions with what appears to be a vendetta. I am training myself to recognize and ignore the vendettas. I simply do not respond to them, or at least I try not to. One response and it simply gives them fodder for their anger.

It is also not possible to keep your own question on topic. There are those who will misunderstand and redirect the entire thread to their own ends. When someone does that I just abandon the question and do not try to defend myself.

Sometimes I ask it again in a different way.

I consider these people trolls, but there is really no way to handle them except to ignore them.

@Doctor_D “I simply defend myself for sarcastic words and insults”, no brutally attacked people, and said some really nasty things. You had more deleted comments than anyone.

The topic (to save my friend’s asses here) is whether or not you like or dislike the idea of a blacklist. We do not need affirmation from anybody else for our opinions. They are only opinions! Everyone has an equal voice here. Now, shut up, already :)

awww, I was having fun ; )

I know! And now it’s time to have fun on a new thread :)

aw man! ((walks away with head down, hands in pockets, kicking at rocks.. that aren’t there))

Bahahahahaha!!!

Wow, how did I miss this party? And where is Joseph Raymond McCarthy?

If Fluther had a black list. Then it would be no better then Yahoo! Answers.

And, Fluther is so much better and more..

Blocking is a feature that has been in the works for a while and will be implemented. FYI.

That sucks. I’ve been on blocking sites before. Those who take advantage of it often pester threads with comments like “I can’t see you”... “What you say is nothing to me”... They become in house trolls to the forum, when they could just choose to avoid.

The web should not stray too far from real life encounters. Otherwise it becomes fantasy.

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies Agreed. But those comments would be removed (and hopefully flagged), just like other useless, off-topic comments.

Ultimately, I think having more control over the way I filter the site (in a private way) will keep me using the site.

I reckon PM blocking is fair enough, but causing some people’s comments and answers to be invisible to some others will cause too much ambiguity and confusion.

Also, will we know if someone has “blocked” us?
How will people know whether to answer a question or make a comment, if some people might simply be unable to see it?

What is the point of having people on the site, who will permanently close their eyes to answers from people they do not like, before even seeing them?

Abuse cannot be tolerated and will obviously be modded, so the block feature will be applied to messages that people simply “don’t like”. Why should we accommodate people, who can’t deal with reading things that they simply “don’t like”?

I’m not saying people should have to read abuse, but it seems rather anti-intellectual to allow people to blinker themselves from ideas they “don’t like” without even reading them first.

I mean, it’s the electronic equivalent of holding your hands over your ears and saying “LALALALALALALALALALALA – I CANT HEAR YOU! – LALALALALALA”
every time someone you dislike in your conversation group says anything.
I remember people doing this in primary school, and I thought it was lame as hell then, and I still think it is lame as hell right now.

I thought that’s what mods were for. Maybe they can draw unemployment.

When I worked for an online MMORPG, I was part of the message board moderator team, which dealt with thousands of users daily (and my share of flame wars, arguments, etc.). Part of me would love to block some people, but from my moderating experience, I know that it could never work here. You would end up seeing nonsensical posts, because the person they’re replying to has been blocked by you. It’s confusing and not at all a perfect solution. I think, generally, we can all be adult about it and ignore the people we don’t like.

I think it may not be a bad idea to be able to block someone from PMing you, especially if the contact is consistently nonconstructive, but then again, if someone is harassing you here, you can always let the big cheeses know.

That would be if it were an individual thing or not. If one could block PMs that is one thing, to block someone in a thread, is another. While I believe some would welcome it that would close down a lot of meaty and substantive conversation and make this place an even drier soda cracker.