Which is better: USA or Canada?

Not one is better than another. All countries have pros and cons. I have lots of issues with the US but I’m not gonna say we are better nor worse than ant other country. Making an assumption such as this is objective and ignorant.

well no offense but…

canada is soooo much better than us. our dollar is better, our politics are better, we have free healthcare, gun control is getting a lot tighter, education in quebec is the cheapest in north america, we’re the 2nd largest landmass on earth, we’re the #1 producer of the world water, we use hydroelectricity, we have amazing landscapes, our animals are better, we have the worlds largest nickel (in sudbury, ontario), we have fair diamonds, i think you get the picture.

If by better you mean cares less about hockey then its definitely the US

the USA more poeple try to move here than there

@Mtl_zack I guess I should start packing to move to Canada now, eh? Seriously tho, I am jealous of your healthcare system. I heard it takes a very long time to get an appointment tho, is that true? Can you get same day appointments, or walk in service like we can here?

No matter where you are born you have a sense of nationalism.

its fun people come to the USA for heathcare from all the country with free heathcare

the emergency room lineups are long, but we are finding solutions such as paying a fee for every time you have to go to the emergency room. that way, someone who has a headache and is nautious (which can be not serious at all) will be less likely to waste their money on said fee and someone who actually needs the healthcare (broken leg), will actually get it.

@ oneye: some people pay a little bit more in their taxes for international/travel care

also, for the win, we never had george w bush as president

I think he has done great the rite man at the rite time how fast we forget 9/11

Uh….what?

CAnada RulZ!!!!!!

We’re better!

also, now our soldiers in afganistan have the pleasure of waking up to a steaming cup of tim hortons double double and timbits, due to timmy ho’s trailers being flown in. rrrrrrrooollll up the rrrriiimmmm to win!!

not saying us is better but California alone has more people than Canada

the emergency room lineups are long, but we are finding solutions such as paying a fee for every time you have to go to the emergency room. that way, someone who has a headache and is nautious (which can be not serious at all) will be less likely to waste their money on said fee and someone who actually needs the healthcare (broken leg), will actually get it.

That’s a good idea. We’ve had long waits here too. I have taken my daughter in for injuries or high fevers, and had to wait from 4 to 6 hours, but that wa before they opened the 24/7 emergent care facilities. Does Canada have them?

I do not think you want to compair soilders

@ Rockey04 Maybe so, but how many are actually Americans?

but the 24/7 care facilities are the problem. people tend to take advantage of that, and it gets overcrowded. whenever i have a fever or a virs or something, i make an appointment with my family doctor like in 2–3 days, but the fees are mainly for emergency rooms, which are 24/7. also, another factor for the waits is the shortage of nurses because many of the baby-boomers (people born in the 50s/60s) were nurses and are now retiring.

@ oneye: we have a small army, but in the end, soldiers mean nothing. all it comes down to is the technology used, which is practically the same.

@Rockey04

My genitals might have more warts than yours. Does that make mine better?

@john

most definitly yes

so your telling me you guys can shoot down something the size of a school bus in space moving60000 mph with one shoot and who do u get you weapons from anyway

@oneye: actually, many technologies that are used in outer space by americans are made by canadians, such as the cana arm, which has been the most usefull tool on the space station, and the us government is actually BEGGING for a satellite that could see through different densities of clouds, which by the way, was made in british columbia.

also, canadians have contributed penicillin, the modern structure of the atom, time zones, the 0.7% GDP donation to end poverty, oscar peterson (who is legendary), strong beer, hockey, 24 stanley cups (just from monteal alone, there are currently 6 canadian cities in the nhl, but there used to be the quebec nordiques, hamilton whalers, montreal maroons, montreal wanderers, etc…), etc…

also, you can have toronto (they suck big ime), they lack the culture that other canadian cities such as montreal, vancouver, halifax have.

I live In minnsota dont tell me about hocky and the cup is in USA now has been for a long time now and your baseball team their great ow ya they left because the taxes are to high

taxes are a very usefull part of politics. without them, we wouldnt have many of the necessary services that we need, such as police officers, firemen, proper education, good healthcare, funding medicinal and technological advances, road repair, wildlife conservation, and others. also, baseball left because theres no entertainment in someone about to throw a ball at a guy who swings a stick and completely misses the ball, but instead passes it to the player at his right in order to do nothin that will affect the game. now, hockey is an entertaining contact sport where adrenaline rushes through even the spectators’ bodies as we drink strong beer, not that crappy miller lite.

you play high Taxes to see a doc you can’t see when you need a doc smart and we got all the services you said but with lower taxes and we got the stanley cup to drink our beer out of but I dont drink

well, your taxes DO NOT cover healthcare, and judging from your poor grammar and lack of punctuation, im guessing that your education system is flawed as well. also, you spelt your own state wrong. you wrote “minnsota” it should be “Minnesota”.

and also read post # 8 about the healthcare system.

we just dont get it here in the old USA maybe we should just stop fooling ourselfs and start living the canadain dream see how dumb that sounds no people want to live the American dream and they risk their very lives to try and get here to do that

Mtl_zack it sure is great to have you as a neighbor. Please stop arguing with oneye36. It is highlighting our school systems inability to turn out students that can spell, or form a coherent sentence.

before they leave, they think of living on a cattle ranch with apple trees and eating franks and beans and watching baseball and having proper clothes to wear and nutritious food to eat and a nice house and proper education, but instead, what they get is a dirty slum with one room for 4 people, a horrible job so that their children have to quit school in order to support their families, they wear torn clothes and eat cow brains and chicken testicles in the form of mcdonalds, and the n on top of it all, they cant do anything that their native culture permits them to do. theyre assimilated into one big mess.

in canada, we believe in diversification, which means that anyone who immigrates here can perform whatever cultural rituals they want and almost no one will say “oh he’s hindu so he’s not allowed wearing a headscarf” or “he’s jewish so he’s not allowed to be circumsized”, etc…

we have churches and synagogues and mosques and other holy sites of different religions all on the same block. this is harmony, each type of person living in the same neighboorhood, without many disputes. that is the dream that i would want.

we have the same freedom of religion here

do you really? ever since half a dozen muslim people attacked a building, almost everyone in the us has been hating ALL muslims, not just those few. some people cant go into certain restaurants without being called a terrorist or a bomber. security is always tighter around darker people, for some reason. and it isnt even always muslims, its anyone who looks like they might be muslim. i know a guy who is hindu, and someone else who is israeli, and they have both been called f*cking terrorists because they look like a stereotype of a bomber. there are 2, 000, 000 muslims in the world and 6 of them did something wrong. does that mean that the other 1, 999, 994 muslims should suffer? i dont think so.

im going to stop humiliating you, as ironhiway asked me to do, and get some sleep because im cold here in my proud canadian snowstorm. i hope to discuss this more in depth another time.

@oneye36

Shut the fuck up. My sisters thirteen year old has a better grasp of English and logic than you do. Just shut the fuck up.

we are fighting and dying in the middle east for what the fredom of christains

You are fucking stupid.

We? Mom’s basement doesn’t count.

love you to john and I will pray for you Gods love and blessings to you

You might want to pray for getting your name right on the SAT’s. If that works out then you can start asking God to help me.

SAT’S???????

but the 24/7 care facilities are the problem. people tend to take advantage of that, and it gets overcrowded.

I would think they would be more of a solution than a problem, because it cuts down on the overflow in the ERs. Is all medical care free there? What about medications? Do you pay for them? You might have noticed that I am on here a lot , and at odd hours. It’s because at present I am home recovering from an extensive knee surgery. Even tho I have insurance, they applied the ENTIRE cost of my surgery to a deductible, so lucky me.. I can’t work for 4 or 5 months, but I get to pay thousands in medical bills. I gotta tell ya, for this reason alone, Canada is looking pretty food to me.

as I mentioned before, we have very few nurses in Canada, so that is not possible presently. Most medications are insured, but sometimes you pay a pharmaceutical fee at the pharmacy to pay the pharmacist. Dentistry is free, orthopedics too, I think even physical therapy and massages too, but not im not 100% though. LASIK eye surgery is not free. Most vaccinations are free, but the ones that are not, you can get at certain colleges for free.

I really wish we could adopt a similar program to yours, but I doubt it will happen anytime soon. Medicine is such a big dollar business here. Insurance companies dictate how much a doctor makes. I am astounded to see how little doctors actually get paid. For example. My surgeon charged $3400.00 for my surgery. The insurance company only allowed $750.00 ( which is good for me, since i have to pay the full amount)

In the podiatric office I work, we sometimes treat more than on problem at a time. If a patient has both a bunion and a hammertoe, we do both procedures on the same date, so the patient doesn’t have to go through the pain of another surgery. Most times, the insurance companies only pay for the first procedure. So I think if we had free medical, we could get rid of most of the insurance companies, and everyone would benefit.

Why do you think you have such a shortage in Nurses? Do younger people not want to go into the field to replace the retiring ones? Are nurses underpaid there?

i think the shortage of nurses isnt because of no newcomers, but because it wasnt anticipated that the baby-boomers would retire at the same time. if it happened gradually, then there would be less of a shortage because 2/3 of the spots would be filled. also, people thought that after the baby-boom, it would continue, but it didnt.

another possibilty is that since the 50s and 60s, there have been many more fields of occupation available for people to have a career in, and why settle for being a nurse in a general feild, when you can be a doctor in a specific field that interests you more.

just a side note: healthcare is under provincial legislation, not federal. many services could vary. some of these things are true about the entire country, but im mainly speaking of quebec.

USA we have Apple

Canada whups ass in hockey but we win in baseball, basketball and football so it depends on if you are a fan of hockey or not.

Despite the bashing above, I will do my best to remain civilized an forthwright in responding.
To answer the question, I say the US.
Yeah, we got healthcare issues… We’re working on it.
But honestly, aside from cultural preferences, I can’t see your point Mtl_zack.

Militarily, from what I understand, ya’ll can’t touch us. Period. Don’t even bother trying some rhetorical response, cause ‘pound for pound’, it’s quite frankly unfair.

About the satelite, fine, we like it, not a surprise or problem. But if you wanna challenge us on technologies… Where’s your composite industry? Aerospace tech and design? Lemmie see one of ya’lls B-2s, C-130s, 747, SR-71…?

Ok, so ya’lls economy is soon good while we going through some issues… Your point? Economies are cyclic. You look good now, but where were you in the 90s?

Our govn’t? Ok, yeah we got Bush. But you can’t seriously say that because of him, our govn’t is a failure or whatever. Hell, the way it is designed is so that we constantly grow develop and evolve as an international and intranational power.
We have had only one severe intrapolitical issue since our existence, the Civil War. Bloody, horrible, but in a true sense, somewhat inevitable. But since then, nothing even remotely as gravitous has arisen.
Aren’t ya’ll still trying to deal with Quebec’s bid for independence?

Trust, we ain’t perfect. We know that, and we are workin to deal with that. But understand, ya’ll sure as hell ain’t either.

Personally, I like Canada! I kinds see the US, Canada, and Mexico as more or less the same country, but different macrocultures.

But bash on US (no pun intended, but it’s whatever), and just like any other sibling. We won’t take it lightly.

Oh, and about the beer comment… wth?
So Miller Lite’s the only beer we have now?
I won’t even dignify that with an answer.

lol, I love that this question has no description below it. Just plain and simple, which is better?

Because Celine Dion has moved to the U.S ( oh there is a god!), I think we barely beat the U.S by a whisker. Otherwise one is not better than the other. We are all where we live by an accident of birth.

Not fair! @dannyc, I was already very jealous of the people of Canada, and then you have to remind me that we got stuck with Celine Dion! Next thing you know you’ll point out that we have Justin Bieber. (You don’t play well with others.)