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I'm going to Beijing! Any advice?

Asked by SundayKittens (5834points) April 6th, 2010

I am attending a training session in Beijing in July of this year. If you’ve travelled there, what advice can you offer? Places to see/eat/avoid?

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DarkScribe's avatar

Watch out for tanks…

No, it is a great place – an enormous number of people speak quite good English and they are pretty friendly. Some very good shopping complexes too – particularly electronics related.

filmfann's avatar

Don’t expect their food to taste like Chinese food here.
Bring chocolate bars.
Bring a camera that prints pictures instantly. Give those pictures to locals.
The Great Wall, the Forbidden City, Peoples Square are all must see.

CMaz's avatar

Not been there. But, take advantage of the food.

Storms's avatar

That’s not really a woman. No, I know it looks like a chick. It’s not. Trust me.

Snarp's avatar

@Storms You’re thinking of Bangkok.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

@Snarp: @DarkScribe could have been talking about Bangkok, too.

Don’t expect to see the sun or blue skies. If the weather is perfect, then the haze will be sort of yellowish. If it’s raining, then you won’t just get wet; you’ll get muddy (from the rain itself).

Try to get some extra breathing done before you leave home, so that you don’t have to do so much in Beijing.

If someone offers you white wine at dinner, keep in mind that we in the States would call the same beverage white lightning.

Gambai!

Coloma's avatar

What@Filmfann said.

And, do not even think of taking any pictures of the police, gaurds of any kind.

Yes…bring chocolate..the chocolate is very strange, looks good but has no flavor. lol

And…get ready to practice your isometrics over the chinese toilets! lol

Don’t eat any open air market or night market foods that have been sitting out for hours, especially fish.

Yeah…don’t drink the Biijou, (sp) OMG! It’s like paint thinner, you could light your breath on fire if you don’t just drop dead in your tracks! Nasty stuff, nasty! lol

MrItty's avatar

bring a gas mask, according to my friend who had to go there two years ago for work.

ragingloli's avatar

Leave your drugs at home. The last foreigner with drugs was executed.

Snarp's avatar

@MrItty I don’t think people would even look at you funny if you wore a light filter mask.

Coloma's avatar

Also, alert your bank of your travel plans so they do not freeze your credit or debit card because of suspicious out of the country transactions.

I always convert about $400—$500 ahead of time and then use my CC at those establishments that accept them to hang on to my cash.

Also..check your statements carefully when you get home. I once had an error of transaction in Taiwan that showed I had withdrawn $400 that I never received.

Make copies of your passport and keep them in all your luggage and one copy on your person at all times.

Snarp's avatar

@Coloma Good advice about credit cards. I had my credit card blocked for security reasons trying to buy train tickets at the station in Italy. Would have been stranded if I hadn’t had a backup plan. And this after I’d been abroad for weeks. Frankly their security algorithms have gone a little nuts.

The_Idler's avatar

The weather is miserable, the smog is abominable, the bureaucracy is mind-boggling, the industry is grim and never-ending, the housing is drab and utilitarian, the water stinks and the streets are overflowing with horse shit.
Wait, I’m thinking of Victorian London…

Storms's avatar

@Coloma Useful advice, GA

Coloma's avatar

Yes, sometimes one must get creative with the cash flow…if you are traveling with friends and are running low on cash away from any banks you can pick up the tab or buy gifts for your friends with your CC and have them give you the cash in return. In my party there were 4 of us so someone always had more cash available. lol

trailsillustrated's avatar

china is great fun it’s crazy!! get a blind massage (not pervy at all) and stay away from the mow tai !!

nimarka1's avatar

remember they have very different traditions and such. Take time to learn a few kew words like thank you, please, and bathroom? also body language is big. you may be doing something that we find normal here but may be insulting there, and thats probably the last thing you want to do. just be prepared about the culture and traditions, and take it in with open arms. you will have an amazing experience!

njnyjobs's avatar

Bring immodium… avoid drinking water, especially from the tap. Avoid ice in your soda. If possible, drink only canned or bottled beverages/water from reputable brands such as Coke or Pepsi, evian or perrier. Avoid Coke or Pepsi from a fountain machine.

Idknown's avatar

@Coloma I disagree about the open markets. They are delicious.Night market is a tradition in China, otherwise known as the midnight snack for us. To this day I crave the lamb on sticks. They make it with Cumin and Chili Powder. Delicious!

Never tried the fish…

I think you’re talking about Bai jiu (White Wine) – that stuff is potent. My friends are hooked, I had half a small bottle and was a goner. Drink with caution!

When visiting the Great Wall – go EARLY. Rent a taxi instead of a bus, its more adventurous, but it’s way better, away from the crowd. Pick a good spot, avoid the tourist part. I went to Simatai or something like that. Pay the cab about 2–300 RMB. See tripadvisor for more tips on that end.

NEVER GO INTO A UNMETERED CAR, unless its a hired driver. They will try to rip you off.

Avoid any student artists trying to get you into an art gallery. Avoid any English learner that wants to chat with you in a cafe.

Check Tripadvisor for how much you should pay to get from airport to the city. If Chinese people can rip you off, they will (I’m Chinese). A lot of these people are in poverty – they see you as cash cows – don’t be fooled. And for god’s sake – don’t tip! In an Asian country service is a given. That’s why Asian services are way better than here in America – generally speaking. Americans want a tip – psh. Tipping can insult someone who is prideful in their work. However, because of so many foreigners tipping left and right, some have come to expect it. If it is written on the menu – tip. If not, you don’t have to.

I lived at the Red Lantern, which is a hostel in the Hu Tongs. It’s a GREAT location if you’re on a budget. I highly recommend this hostel. They sell great buns and street food just a block away.

Assuming you don’t have a Chinese speaker with you – take cabs everywhere. If you’re from America, or Europe – it’s super cheap. Remember to add 1 RMB to the total for gas money to the driver. Again – don’t tip.

If you go to the Silk Market… and you’re white… you WILL BE HARASSED. Remember what I said about cash cows? They will follow you around and try to get you to buy expensive things that are not expensive at all. I watched this poor European woman get surrounded by street sellers trying to sell her socks as we crossed the streets. Thank goodness I was Chinese, they couldn’t tell I was an American.

If you do go – there are great things to be found in the Silk market. My tip: bargain like there is no tomorrow. I got tailored shirts there for work at about $18 USD/piece. Which at the time was about 80–90 RMB per shirt. Buy more, save more – but that was the lowest I could get the price. But $20 USD for a tailor made shirt? Express charges $50 for one that wasn’t made just for me. It’s worth it!

General rule – go into the shop, look at an item – ask yourself – How much am I willing to pay for this item? So sticker price says 600 RMB, translate that to USD – say… $100. You want to pay $50, so that’s about 300 RMB. After you do that – take another 100 off. Offer 200 RMB for the thing. If they walk away – your price was too low. Go to another vendor and try 250. They will talk and talk and talk, and do a lot of tactics. But if you stay firm and threaten to leave – they will likely give it to you at 250. At the worst – relent and give them 300.

Do it this way – and you won’t get ripped off… much.

Hope that helps. I know I talked more about how to not get ripped off than how to go somewhere nice. When I get off work, I might add to that other list.

I mean – I feel bad for them, so when I do get ripped off, I can think of it as charity. But then the American in me just feels so cheated. It’s one thing that I’m nice and I give a nice tip. It’s another when they scam you out of it.

Coloma's avatar

@Idknown

I enjoyed a lot of good food at the night markets, but was just wary of buying any fresh fish or meats that were not properly iced all day.

I loved the night markets, jade markets…so much to see and take in.

The Biijou (?) I had was more like hardcore alcohol than wine…I love the rice wines and fruit vinegars they served with meals. :-)

Storms's avatar

@Idknown Coloma’s going to say this but they weren’t warning against the markets in general, just stuff that’s obviously been sitting out in the air a long time, decomposing.

Snarp's avatar

They say never to buy a hot dog from a street stand in Washington D.C. too. Man I live on street dogs wherever I can find them.

Idknown's avatar

@Storms @Coloma you guys visit some shady places then :). But I hope if it’s as obvious as you guys put it – then our OP will have the common sense.

Also the “white wine” is just a translation. bai is white, jiu is wine/alcohol. It sounds a lot like Biijou. I’m sure the jou part is jiu (as pinyin would type it). I could be wrong – it just sounds too similar, and I know baijiu is really strong – so I’m assuming we’re talking about the same thing.

And it might seem like I hate it – but China’s great. Went back twice in 2 years. I love it. Wish I could live there – but I can’t… you know… all communist and all.

filmfann's avatar

@Snarp Most places to eat in DC are outragiously expensive. Even McDonalds has their prices jacked up. The hot dog vendors are the only reasonable meal in DC.

Coloma's avatar

Yes, it is also helpful to have your hotel or apartment address written down to show the cab drivers, many do not speak english.

It was funny…took me about a week to realize that the ‘Sherwood’ was pronounced the ‘She-waa’ ......after a week I’d just start saying ’ To the She-waa” lolol

Snarp's avatar

@filmfann That’s what I’m saying, but the official advice is not to eat them. I think it actually comes from the city. Screw that, I’m eating a street dog with the works.

Coloma's avatar

Skip over to Taiwan and check out Snake Alley…..Cobra meat on a stick! lol

Idknown's avatar

@Coloma My Faves:
CocaCola: Ke Ko Ke Le (ker ko ker ler)
Pepsi: Bai Shi (Bye She)
Sprite: Xue Bi (you’re on your own with this one)
McDonalds: Mai Dang Lao (My Don Loud [silent d])

Storms's avatar

@Coloma Snake is good eating. Know any place I can get dog?

Coloma's avatar

I just wish I had the balls to smuggle home some opium poppy seeds and plant my hillside. lolololol

My girlfriend spilled a baggy of laundry soap rearranging her overweight bag when we were departing…the look on the clerks face as white powder exploded from her bag! lololol

Priceless!

@Storms

If you travel out in the countryside you will find a lot of things to eat of a questionable nature. lol

There is a lot of unchecked rabies over there, and a shortage of vaccines…don’t get too cuddly with the street cats and dogs. They might eat you!

Idknown's avatar

@Coloma Damn – the closest I got to country side was a village by Yellow Mountain. You guys are really adventurous!

I can’t wait to try snake next time.

I had scorpions. Was going to go for the silk worm, but I heard it was juicy… I passed.

Grass worms – yum….

Coloma's avatar

Ewwww…...did you try those weird garlic tasting sea snails in little spiral green snail shells! lol

Idknown's avatar

Hmmm – not that I’m aware of. I’m talking about this: http://tinyurl.com/yfcypkd

@OP Oh – and please don’t try the sea horses. They are endangered and it’ll be cool if you don’t eat them while you’re in Beijing.

Take the train during rush hour – it’s horrible, if you aren’t a tourist. I’m from NYC. After a train ride in Beijing – I feel VERY spacious on our Subways. Hahaha!

Coloma's avatar

@Idknown

No, I never saw the wormgrass…ick! lol

Yeah, I’m big on conservation so wasn’t into the ‘experience’ of eating too many wild things.

OMG yes! The subways, don’t even go near them at rush hour. I live in a small community and coming home I felt like I was living in the middle of nowhere! haha

jazmina88's avatar

Call your cc company with dates and places. or your account can be frozen, for your protetion.

Idknown's avatar

Do the typical touristy stuff.

1. Forbidden Palace. Tian An Men Sq (45 Yuan)
2. Summer Palace. (35 Yuan)
3. Visit the Hutongs (they have rickshaw rides!).
4. Temple of Heaven (35 Yuan)
5. Beijing Aquarium (110 Yuan)

Keep in mind these prices are a year old. Straight from my itinerary from last year.

Let me know if you plan on going outside of Beijing.

Coloma's avatar

@Idknown

Good pointer about the tipping and bargaining.

I was told that it was acceptable to tip your bellboy but mine would have no part of it, same with our tour guide. That was hard to get used to when we are so used to tipping in America.

SundayKittens's avatar

Thank you all so much! Is the exchange rate from USD pretty good? Also, what kind of adapter did you use for phone charger/computer/etc?

Idknown's avatar

@kikibirdjones Exchange rate is still pretty good. 1:6.8 last I checked. Used to be 1:7.ish – so it’s going up.

I did bring an adapter, but most places took my electronics the way it was. Google the adapter.

Exchange rate is good – but goods are just as expensive. Coke is about 3 Yuan. Pizza hut is about 120 Yuan a pie. I know, Pizza Hut in China – why? It’s not the same as the one here.

If you go local – omg – you can get a good meal for about 50 Yuan, and be totally full and content. Food is cheap – physical goods can be expensive.

Try the street food – they are also very cheap about 1–5 Yuan.

SundayKittens's avatar

Thank you thank you! If I could send you all a sursey from Beijing I would!

Idknown's avatar

@kikibirdjones Just buy lots of crap. It really is cheap and worth it.

Don’t bring so much crap with you, but it there. Don’t bring all your clothes, expect to buy. Do bring toiletries. OMG – bring the charmin to go packs. Depending on where you go – they wont’ have toilet paper.

My ex used tissue paper – which is good too.

Oh – like someone said – DON’T DRINK THE WATER. My fave place to buy water is Watsons, or 7-Eleven. Try the Asian bottled teas. Green tea and Oolong are my fave. And Kirin Milk Tea isn’t bad either.

filmfann's avatar

@Idknown is correct. Don’t drink the water. Don’t even brush your teeth with it.
It is no fun trying to see everything while your bowels are misfunctioning.

Snarp's avatar

You could bring a water bottle with a built in filter. Just make sure it actually deals with all the microorganisms.

Coloma's avatar

I had filtered water in my apartment.

I did have a few drinks with ice here and there with no problem.

Also ate a lot of Guavas and asian apples, no problem there either.

You may want to consider the H1N1 vaccine but otherwise there are no mandatory vaccines you will need.

Idknown's avatar

@Snarp Water costs very little in China. I would not suggest bringing a water bottle with built in filter as that sounds like a hefty purchase :P comparatively.

The least you bring the better.

Snarp's avatar

@Idknown Well, you’re mostly right, but there are lots of reasons to use a filtered water bottle, not the least of which is the outrageous ecological costs of bottled water, and of course one might find it quite useful if one likes to get really off the beaten path in one’s travels. They’re also actually getting to be quite cheap. But no, it’s not necessary, it’s just one option.

Idknown's avatar

Ecological? It’s China! :P

But yes, I use a Brita Filter at home to decrease the amount of plastics I go through. I never thought about the water bottle filterer though….

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SundayKittens's avatar

Got back tonight! WIll post link to pictures when I quit hallucinating that I’m still on the plane!

Coloma's avatar

Oh man…the jet lag from a 13–14 hour flight is killer on the return. Took me two weeks to feel normal again. Welcome back!

margot's avatar

@ArpitaBarua, hi…you have made a nice list..thanks.

SundayKittens's avatar

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The_Idler's avatar

http://image.bayimg.com/daoakaach.jpg

This is me, a couple weeks ago,
Love from Saigon.
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SundayKittens's avatar

@The_Idler That beer and that view look mighty familiar! How funny!

jesienne's avatar

@The_Idler You look special.

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