Would you support a "robocracy"?

No, freedom is something that should not be tossed aside, even if the end result is a negative one due to ones freedom.

ah, but machines and systems are corruptible. also, there are gray areas in just about everything, so how can a machine factor in everything when making a decision? that’d be a long if/then statement. so my answer is no.

Only If Max Headroom is in charge.

I don’t know but this song comes to mind shortly after reading your question.

No. I’ve seen just how well people make computer programs; even if I trusted people to create good rules and I thought the rules had unanimous consent, I wouldn’t trust the implementation.

Sure. I could definitely support that.

Here’s a thought for people who say “yes.”

Have you ever had to deal with a computer error? A billing error on your electric bill, or the computer at your college or high school screwing up your grades?

Now imagine that that screwup has the force of law behind it.

Have you ever had to deal with human error? My guess is that in terms of frequeny, human error > computer error.

The next question then is severity. Is severity of computer error > severity of human error? How would we quantify that?

Most human errors can be dealt with. If a computer was in charge you couldn’t really argue with it.

I’ve met plenty of people I couldn’t argue with either. If you need someone you can argue with, contact the person responsible for programming the computer.

@nikipedia: yes, I’ve dealt with human errors, and they’re significantly easier to fix.

I don’t think all decisions should be based on facts. Emotions are necessary. For example, when there is the problem of over-population the “best” solution would be to kill off all disabled as it’s “best” for the biggest part of our population.
Obviously, that’s undersirable.

@nikipedia – I’m glad I’m living in a democracy, in a country that it mostly led by people that can be argued with.

As for the programmer – he wouldn’t have the force of law to go and edit those robots. If a programmer that is in control of the robots gets upset or has some crazy thoughts, where would we be?

Good point – if the solution to a computer decision that you don’t like is to get the programmer to fix it, it’s not rule by computer anymore, but rule by programmer.

That, unlike rule by computer, is a concept I could get behind. Purely for altruistic reasons, you understand, nothing to do with my profession at all.

As long as it didn’t go all iRobot on us I think it would be ok. No, I’m just kidding. I don’t think it’s possible because in order for the machines to be completely unbiased, the programmers of those machines would have to be completely unbiased. There is no such thing as an unbiased human being.

I don’t see how rule by computer could ever arise without the computers being programmed, unless you’re talking about some kind of Fantasy Land where elaborate systems can spring into being. (In that case, can we just have Garden of Eden Fantasy Land where we don’t need a government?)

I’m assuming the programmers are given some kind of guidance, either by popular vote or by some kind of still-existing human government….?

….and then we get into the problem that programmers deal with every day, which is that the default thinking mode for people is fuzzy and subjective, and it’s hard to get people who are used to thinking in fuzzy, subjective ways to think in the sort of rigorous objective ways that computers demand.

I’m pretty sure i,Robot taught us all we need to know about offering our government systems to robots… But it doesn’t seem like a good idea to me, in some ways being biased is a good thing, because you can make decisions without needing to know everything, a robot making a decision would sit there for a while making sure everyone involved was happy with the solution and that isn’t practical because people always disagree. The best government is one with even numbers of biases.

cwilbur: Supposing we could get human beings to think the way computers demand, in a very concrete and objective way—do you think that would be better than, worse than, or equivalent to the fuzzy and subjective thinking that creates and enforces our laws now?

Honestly Skynet? This is the best you could think off? You really are deseprate man, this is just sad. Penetrating an iPhone messageboard behind a clever avatar?. How many times do we have to go back in time to melt you before you get the point?

nikipedia: I think it would offer no benefits and several drawbacks, because there’s a difference between things that are legal, things that are ethical, and things that are just. Until you can codify that in a formal system, the subjective system will be better.

I see this turning into a movie….

question is, whos staring this time. We already had will smith, and Arrnaould (spelled as the common annuncination). I for one think this time should have Harrison Ford, or maybe Shawn Connery; ya know, another has been thats prolly close to death.