Why vampires?

I have long wondered the same thing. I do not see the appeal.

I suspect it is the struggle to have an evil nature (“I vant to suck your blood.”) that the vampire struggles against.

Add to that their power to hypnotize, their legendary lovemaking prowess, and potential immortality and a genre is born.

It’s the whole sex thing. That’s what makes them interesting to people.

I think it’s cyclical. Harry Potter came out and witchcraft and magic were popular. There was a rash of werewolf movies during the 80’s. Zombie movies come in waves. But I will admit that vampires seem to have a broad attraction.

The biting of the neck of a beautiful woman in her bed is a metaphor for sex. You should have seen Frank Langella in the Broadway production of Dracula. He was one of the first to put the sexual spin on the character.

@syz Seems that way to me as well. I have no particular objection to them (in literature, that is), but they are getting a little over-used I think.

Sex does, indeed, appear to be quite a big part of it. I can think of so many metaphors (other than biting) that are very obviously sexual. Not surprising, I guess.

Part of the question I have is: “Why now?” I think dark heroes (a la Batman) are on the rise in this era, and vampires also seem to be a part of that. Perhaps “Why Dark Heroes?” would be better.

@SirBailey I disagree that Langella was the first sexy vampire, but he could bite my next any time. Always loved that guy.

Cuter than zombies. Less smelly, too!

@aprilsimnel Same deal with werewolves, especially if it’s raining. Eau de Wet Dog. Yuck!

You know, IIRC, our current conception of vampires comes from Lord Byron, and him being the progenitor of the Romantic movement… I mean, there you go, even though he tried to distance himself from the creation of the tale.

Byron was, in the words of one of the many married Ladies he seduced, “mad, bad and dangerous to know.” And vain, too.

Who doesn’t love a bad boy?

because vampires, by nature, are alluring. they are dangerous because of their ability to attract women (typically) so efficiently, but to also be able to destroy them. some may argue that bela lugosi wasn’t sexy, but those girls in dracula were attracted to him enough anyway, and that’s what made the susceptible to being bitten.

The desire to be imortal and beautiful forever? Also, to make every person your bitch as you please and not suffer any consequences? Whats not to like. Being a vampire would be awesome.

For an interesting angle on this subject, you might want to investigate some of the books of Laurence Gardner with regard to an alleged practice, in ancient times, of the consumption of menstrual blood for it’s supposed life extending properties. Something that he claims was banned by early Judaic and Christian authorities and then subsequently conceptually disfigured into what we are familiar with today (The Vampire myth). There is also a connection to the famed ‘Vestal Virgins’ whom he claims were used as an unadulterated source of this ‘menstrual elixir’.

@Marina, “one of the first”. Who do you think was the first?

P.S…Where is your “next”? Or is that another metaphor? :)

I think (for women) it’s the whole tall, dark, sexy, bad boy thing! I personally prefer werewolves!

@lloydbird Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve been meaning to get around to reading Dracula, too. Maybe this summer will hold vampire education.

I think a big part of it is the “bad boy.” They’re just human enough to seem attractive but also just dangerous enough be mysteriously on the edge.

Why not??

Because Ogres aren’t as attractive? Ogre

I’ve yet to see a romantic film about Ogres. Sure, Shrek is out there, but let’s face it, not a huge calling for Ogres.

@cak Eww

Vampires rock!!! they are awesome!! Why wouldn’t you like them?

Well, it’s clearly not “exclusively”. I like werewolves, elves and dwarfs, zombies (especially the quick moving kind), various shape-shifter legends, hobbits, wizards, ghosts, superheroes, psychics, mind-readers, .... You get the idea. And all of these are available in books and movies.

I like a good story with some sort of quickly established rules for how the magic in the story works. The vampire legends are pretty well established. Each story world (Stoker, Buffy/Angel, Twilight, Rice, TruBlood, Blood Ties, etc.) has a slightly different take on what will and won’t work to ward them off or kill them, but whatever the storyteller decides to use can be established quickly. It seems like cheating if they suddenly come up with a rule-breaker too often.

I think more to the point is what story the author is trying to tell. A good story isn’t just about the vampire. It’s about a struggle between good and evil, growing up, facing “your demons”, young love, forbidden love, coming into your own, friendship, family, ambition, etc.

Not every story with a vampire in it works. In a good story that has a vampire in it, the vampire is a vehicle to tell a story about emotions. Emotions are messy and magical and often misunderstood, so stories about emotions can work very well in a magical, otherworldly, secret, or metaphorical setting.

That’s my take anyway. Cheers!

Vampires are a tired genre. It has a dark but romantic appeal that some folks like but it’s so overdone. That genre needs a reboot in a bad way.
I’d like to see a vampire flick that addresses the addiction side of the legend.

Vampires cant die so obviously they can’t die if they don’t feed. Maybe there’s a story in a vampire who has the mad compulsion to drink blood but decides to replace the addiction with heroin, adrenaline rushes or compulsive sex. Vampires are boring because they’re pure fantasy with little connection to humanity.

The whole idea of the fornlorn vampire who can never love a mortal because the world doesn’t understand them makes me wretch.

@The_Compassionate_Heretic Well, funny you should say that. There’s a movie on it’s way, though I can’t remember the name, that depicts a world populated almost entirely by vampires, and they’re running out of food. It looks excellent, so I’ll see if I can recall the name.

@growler I’m not watching it if it features any of the following ex vampires:
Tom Cruise
Brad Pitt
That emo Twilight guy
Kate Beckinsale
Wesley Snipes

Ok That emo Twilight guy ???!
What the fffff dude :P

@Tink1113 That’s right. Vampires are all emo.~

I didn’t like the whole Twilight thing. It lacked teeth. :^>

Not all of them

I mean the story lacked teeth. Yeah there were some fangs, but the story just flopped around. ugh.

I think Werewolves are much cooler, more tragic figures, but Vampires have always had that allure towards women. Bela Lugosi made women swoon. I went to the 70’s version with a woman who damn near lost control of herself watching Frank Langella.
The problem with Werewolves is that their affliction can be dealt with like a herpes outbreak. Vampires are always vampires. Go ask Buffy.

@cyndyh Well it was a love story

@cyndyh “It lacked teeth.” Do you mean “It sucked”?

@Tink1113: It was pretty empty as far as a love story goes.

@lloydbird: That would be one way of putting it. I think it actually blew. If it sucked it would have some value to someone. :^>

@cyndyh
Well it’s your opinion, not mine :)

@The_Compassionate_Heretic The movie is Daybreakers, and I don’t believe it has any of those ex-vampires. The io9 article is here. It looks decent, except for Willem Dafoe’s “cheeseball lines.”

Who says ogres aren’t sexy? I sort of think they are. And the whole vampire thing, to me, is the amazing strength and the eternal life. Who wouldn’t want to live forever at a certain age and be able to knock a house down just by pushing against it?

Sounds like fun to me. I don’t follow much vampire lore in the movies, hell I don’t watch many movies at all unless they are historical documentaries, or something that deals with reality. If I am going to spend time with passive entertainment, I want something that will educate me or at least make me think. Movies for mere escapism is a waste of what limited time I have left. Time better spent on Fluther.

I have started re-reading the The Vampire Armand by Anne Rice, and it makes me want to find the rest in the series.

@evelyns_pet_zebra wow, you’re the person I warn my kids about! All of lifes problems are solved at the movies!

@evelyns_pet_zebra Only you, my friend! Only you can give a shout out to Ogres. Again, I admire your individualism. :)

Read the original “Dracula” by Bram Stoker and you’ll see.

@Tink1113 : I see that. :^>

@cyndyh =]

vampires have wondrous powers and you can either daydream about having the powers or the great compliment of having such a creature fancy you. (alternatively, you can think about the drawbacks of such powers, which have story possibilities. another thing altogether, though.) from a storytelling perspective, it save a great deal of mental effort to have a ready-made template from you which can pick and choose the elements you like. and you don’t need to explain at length what “vampire” means.

Being a vampire means never being able to go spend a day at the beach ever again. Now that would suck.

To be effective or in any way ‘potent’ Spiderman’ would need to be ‘Spiderwoman’, because it is the female of the species that is, by far,dominant. But you don’t see that in the movies!. Hence why the number 8 is a significant number in numerology as a ‘Feminine’ number. (8 legs). So, lets get real about humans turning into bats or becoming bat-like at will, pure fantasy. Although….....

i do know a few people who are batty, however.

I find that vampires are also very open to puns. Batty, sucking, etc. Not something I’d really want to open myself up to, to be honest.

I think the most interesting incarnation of vampires recently are Terry Pratchett’s vampires from Discworld. They are mostly humorous while remaining pretty menacing in a pinch. Or, that could just be Mr. Pratchett’s prowess.

This sums it up for me (both sides of the conversation):

http://www.pvponline.com/2009/08/03/maneuvers-in-the-dark/