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[NSFW] If boob size is important to women why shouldn't it for men?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) October 13th, 2010

I am confused but not too much about the big breast hypocrisy with women. As with many women the size of a man’s ”package” does matter and apparently with many, many women the size of their ”rack” matters as well. I don’t know how many times I have heard women say they wanted to be loved the way they are. They say they want a man looking in their eyes not talking to their chest or that they don’t want the ”girls” entering the room 3 minutes before they do. Then why are millions of women not happy with the size nature gave them when we men are supposed to be happy with what they were given? If a man see a woman like http://www.realself.com/files/213092-before.jpg, http://www.realself.com/files/221455-before.jpg, or http://www.realself.com/files/197325-before.jpg → and say to her she is pretty, witty, a nice person but “your tits are too small”, he is labeled a sexist. Why? Many women are not happy being that small themselves, they don’t even love themselves ”the way they are”, so if they don’t why do men who forever reason love big watermelon boobs can express their love for them? Even women who have nice boobs http://www.realself.com/photo/53604?offset=209&topic_id=46666, http://www.realself.com/photo/138432?offset=114&topic_id=46666, or http://www.realself.com/photo/171619?offset=4&topic_id=46666&tags=8060. It seems many, many women self-esteem rides on the size of their chest, to them it appears size does matter, so how dare they tell men that for him it don’t or shouldn’t matter either? Even those who have some want more! How greedy is that? To me it about puts them with the men forking over all those bucks for penis pumps and extendacreams.

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Nullo's avatar

For the same reason why heavyset guys cling to overheard assertions that women don’t actually pay much attention to the physical appearance.

Deja_vu's avatar

Personally I’m happy with my boobs not because of their size. Anyways some women look great with smaller boobs. I think alot of guys like smaller boobs. If a women self-esteem rides on their chest size like you say that’s silly. As for penis size it can be too big. This isn’t really a real world question, is it?

FutureMemory's avatar

There’s a lesson to be learned here: why should we feel inadequate with what nature gave us? We had no choice in the matter.

Deja_vu's avatar

There is nothing more attactive then someone that is fully secure with themselves. Boob jobs can be weird looking, and as I said penises can be to big for comfort.

jrpowell's avatar

I like nipples.. Hi mom. Yeah. I don’t care.

rooeytoo's avatar

Last week you were worried about eyelash implants, this week breast size, you have an interesting mind.

I am a little confused about your question, are you asking why women should be unhappy if men are critical of their breasts since they are also critical sometimes? If that is indeed the question, to me it would be the same as the fact that I can call my brother a jerk, but I better not hear you calling him one! You catch my drift???

The_Idler's avatar

Women don’t like men’s attitudes to them, because it is precisely those attitudes that cause women’s own problematic feelings about them. Duh. =}

InkyAnn's avatar

I think that with some women, they do want a guy to love and like them for who they are, personality things like that, and wanting bigger boobs or changing them in some way by said same girl is because its just a “nicer looking package” then what they have, in their minds, for the guy that does truly want them for them.

Frenchfry's avatar

I am not awake yet. I am confused by the question. I would say. I am happy with my breasts but would love them to stay perky for the rest of my life.not going to happen I like the fact my man loves boobies. It gives me a asset. If you want a boob job and have the money,more power to you.

ratboy's avatar

A girl with itty bitty titties must settle for a guy with a teeny-tiny weeny.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@rooeytoo de facto @Frenchfry I am a little confused about your question, are you asking why women should be unhappy if men are critical of their breasts since they are also critical sometimes? Hacking the question to the bone would be why do many women resent those men (which I am not, I love small, firm and perky) who like a large C or bigger rack on a woman when said women don’t even like small breast and flock to go under the knife to get this bigger rack? It is kind of a fraud of ”do as I say do but not as I really do”. A woman can’t tell a guy “I am more than a pair of tits, I have a great smile, nice hands, wicked personality, but next week I am getting the puppies blew up from a B cup to a D”.

Yup, mind is like a sail with data as the wind, something always pushing the sheets.

Cruiser's avatar

Every girl I have known have a some point in time have said they wished they were either bigger or smaller. And forget about faking it!!

janbb's avatar

Have to say that’s one of the few things on my body besides my legs that I’ve been consistently happy with. And as for men, as I’ve said before, it ain’t the size, it’s the fit. And if mean were supposed to be content with their size, there wouldn’t be all that spam about “penis enlargement.” Generalizations rarely are useful.

BarnacleBill's avatar

The women who are concerned about the size of their “rack” generally are not the ones who assert that want to be loved as they are. Or, if they do, have found that men don’t notice them because they’re flat chested. This gets back to being attracted to the wrong sort of guy.

Deja_vu's avatar

@Cruiser Every girl you’ve known??? Woah

Cruiser's avatar

@Deja_vu Yup all 2 of them….well plus 3 sisters.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Would women be concerned about having larger breasts if some men weren’t so obsessed with them? (That probably goes for anything appearance-related as well.) I’d like to hear from the bi- and lesbian friends on this.

Deja_vu's avatar

@Pied_Pfeffer I’m bi, and I gave my answer.
I have lot’s of dude friends as well and they don’t all love big breast.

Jude's avatar

Well, my chesticles size – it’s between the first set of photos and the second set and they’re still perky and wonderful. Honestly, I prefer a smaller to average sized chest.

I’m happy with my boobies!

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Deja_vu's avatar

@Deja_vu Me too. I had C’s by the time I was 12 and I was 5’9” (still am, didn’t grow after that) and modeled but I would get hit on by old men and it was weird and sometimes really creepy. I started to wear (yearly 90’s warning!) flannel jackets and hoodies to feel safe. When I go older I became okay with my chest.

JustmeAman's avatar

Extra large breasts really do not look good at all. Men that think this way I think are shallow. I like a woman that is natural and doesn’t have to rely on surgery for her self esteem. Our society forces these kinds of things and it really is sad. Look at the poor models and what they have to go through.

Jude's avatar

Extra large boobies would tip me over. I’m 5’2” and roughly (110lbs).

Seaofclouds's avatar

I use to want bigger boobs back when I was younger. Since then, I’ve realized all the wonderful things about my boobs and I am happy with what I have. I have a few friends with really big boobs and they have talked about getting reductions because of the backaches they get from their boobs.

syz's avatar

Women obsess over breast size because of insecurity or self esteem issues or because they buy in to society’s ideal of beauty that they’ve been inundated with since they were old enough to watch TV or pick up a magazine.

Men who obsess over breast size do so because they objectify women.

The_Idler's avatar

@JustmeAman I agree totally, I mean, it’s a matter of taste, but I really do find it sad that there are such pressures in our civilization and more so that they are encouraged and fuelled by lust for money.

diavolobella's avatar

I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum. When I was younger, I had a decent sized chest (C cup) that I suppose would have been categorized as average. I got my share of attention from men, but it wasn’t obsessive physical attention directed toward my chest. If anything, any attention I got that was directed at a specific physical attribute tended to be directed more at my legs, because they are extremely long. That didn’t happen that often though. Most of the time it seemed when I was complimented or received attention from men, it was more general (i.e. “You are a really beautiful woman.”) and it was almost always polite and not leering or intimidating.

Fast forward to now. When I hit my 40’s, I had a sudden major growth spurt in the chest area. I have no idea why, but it was a natural occurrence and I didn’t have any work done. Now I’m a E and almost every day I’m subjected to a lot of really unpleasant attention focused like a laser beam at my chest. Almost all of the comments I get are about my boobs and even random men passing me on the street seem to think that the size of my chest gives them a license to say the most incredibly rude things to me such as “Are those real? Damn baby, nice t*ts!” You get the idea. It’s like my large chest makes it okay to make crude comments to me instead of the more gentlemanly admiration I got when my figure was less extreme. It’s like they assume that anyone who has a chest this size must have wanted it or even bought them and therefore must be seeking attention and be gratified by it. They are the ones who think my self esteem is based on my breast size, not me. It’s like big boobs = slut. I think in some way women in the adult entertainment industry are to blame for that. They purposely get extreme breast augmentation and so now men assume that anyone who has big boobs got augmentation to look like a porn star. They forget that for some people, it’s nature, not a choice.

I guess my point is, if anything, I’d rather have back the average chest size that didn’t cause me to be the object of so much unwanted, sometimes frightening behavior. The difference between how I felt back then and how I feel now has nothing to do with my feelings about my breast size, it has to do with the drastic difference in how MEN treat me because of it. Life is a lot less pleasant and sometimes even scarier. I can’t hide my chest size the way a man’s penis size is concealed. The only one making a judgment about the size of your penis is a person who actually sees you naked. I deal with reactions from people whose interaction with me is nothing more than passing me on a sidewalk. Oh, and don’t think some women don’t also treat you like you are a floozy because you have big boobs. That happens too, but they snicker behind your back rather than scream at you from a passing car.

If men had to wear their penis out in the open on their chest for everyone to see and got judged and treated weirdly by common strangers and acquaintances alike based on whether it was big or small, I daresay it would affect them too.

tranquilsea's avatar

Everything that @diavolobella said. GA.

diavolobella's avatar

I hope I don’t sound like I’m completely humorless when it comes to my chest. I don’t go around feeling persecuted or anything and to give credit to my faith in human nature, no matter how many times I get a rude comment, I’m always as surprised (and hurt) as I was the first time. There are also days when I don’t mind a joking remark about them – if I know the person and therefore know their intent isn’t ill. Just remember though, if you are the one making the joke or the slightly off-color remark that you think is a clever compliment, the woman with the big boobs has probably heard it 100 times, and maybe 20 of those times were today. Sometimes it’s nice to be noticed for something besides your boobs.

Axemusica's avatar

BOOBS!!

End Transmission

rooeytoo's avatar

I wish we would just call them breasts instead of boobs. That would be a excellent step forward in the process of becoming a part of a human composed of many other parts.

I really dislike the word also because if you call a person a boob, it has a connotation that is not complimentary.

It has always puzzled me also that a man’s penis is his most prized possession but if one person calls another a dick, it is an insult?????????

Seek's avatar

I’d like to mention there are many reasons other than the attention of other people that one might have an issue with their breasts.

I have tuberous breast deformity. Whereas “normal” breasts have a pleasing round shape like an orange or a melon, mine are more like… potatoes. They are flat and basically shapeless. I cannot fill out a bra. Any bra. They just don’t make bras that are even remotely comfortable to wear with breasts shaped like mine, because the bottom of the tuberous breast is about two or three inches higher than where the underwire would sit. Bras without underwires are just pointless – you’d end up with potato pancakes under your shirt.

And forget about sleeveless dresses and most tank tops.

Shopping for bras and clothes is frustrating to the point of stressful. I can’t tell you how many trips it takes to buy one single bra that looks halfway decent, and in a week that bra has become unbearably uncomfortable.

Here and here are images of one woman’s tuberous breast deformity before and after mastopexy surgery.

JustmeAman's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr

If surgery can repair the problem then you should have it done. In this case surgery is merited and needed for the benefit of your self esteem.

Seek's avatar

Or, I could just deal with it, and worry about where I’m going to get the money to have the necessary surgery that I need. My self esteem went to pot a long time ago. Who cares at this point?

JustmeAman's avatar

Obviously you care. I know it is hard to come up with money for things like this but I guess you have to ask yourself if it would be worth it or not? One note, your breasts are not you and you can be loved for you.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

I will say the size of my breasts wasn’t important once they developed. I had to be sure I’d at least have something to put in a bra because it played into my ideal of what femininity was to me and had been built on since childhood.

Okay, once I got some breasts I then worried about their shape because it seemed to me that every other female around my age was also obsessed with what shapes ours would all turn out to have and yes, we sure did have an idea of what we thought they should turn out to be shaped like. We all seemed to want high firm round Asian girl breasts. I got lucky, got what I wanted but others didn’t. As a young girl then I thought, “hey, love what you’ve got!” (as long as it’s what you want, right).

Adding men’s ideas of what makes breasts attractive to women’s ideas is insane. I’ve come to know men who prefer the look of implants over natural, something I’d never have believed before until I heard it firsthand. I’ve also seen women have their breasts reconstructed, reduced, lifted, enlarged and been sooooo happy and relieved not to think so much about the breasts anymore, just accept for themselves in their own ways that their breasts look “good”. I’m getting more okay with that now, that whatever takes the pressure off of women about a particular body part is okay.

ratboy's avatar

Thank heaven for little boobs
they swell up in the most delightful way!

Those little boobs so helpless and appealing
one day will flash and send you crashin’ thru the ceilin’

Thank heaven for little boobs
thank heaven for them all,
no matter where no matter who
for without them, what would little boys do?

Seek's avatar

@JustmeAman

All that would accomplish (besides a grand waste of several thousand dollars), would be the knowledge that I was in some way “flawed”, that I wasn’t good enough the way I was, and I needed to be “fixed”.

Having my gallbladder removed? Understandable. Having my bile duct blocked by a gallstone could damage my liver or even kill me.
Having my feet fixed? Also understandable. They cause me pain sometimes.

Implanting saline bags into my unconventional but otherwise perfectly functional breasts (I nursed my son for 20 months) in order to make it easier to conform to modern fashion standards? Pretty much pointless.

JustmeAman's avatar

@seek_Kolinahr

I’m in no way stating that you are flawed in any way. The preception is yours alone and if it bothers you then you should look into it. If it doesn’t then why should you change at all? I am in agreement with you on the matter.

syz's avatar

I have had reduction surgery, which my insurance paid for because of long term back pain. I can say that having been large chested since about 12, I’d happily do away with them altogether. Personally, I think women who want to be larger are crazy. And I tend to be attracted to small breasts, but that may be unduly influenced by my feelings about my own.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Pied_Pfeffer Would women be concerned about having larger breasts if some men weren’t so obsessed with them? And if women would stop flocking to plastic surgeons to ”pump them up” natural size and shape would take root. It is like blaming drug cartels for flooding the streets with dope when the reason they do that is because we Americans can’t seem to get through the day or have any fun going out unless high or doped up in some fashion. If women cut off the supply maybe the demand would so South.

@Seaofclouds I have a few friends with really big boobs and they have talked about getting reductions because of the backaches they get from their boobs. And there are tons of women who would never have to worry about back pains (if it is really any proof to it) or bra wearing yet rush to that if they can get it paid for….interesting……….

@syz Men who obsess over breast size do so because they objectify women. What of women who have a good size already even if a B cup but it is not good enough they want to be a D or better?

@diavolobella If anything, any attention I got that was directed at a specific physical attribute tended to be directed more at my legs, because they are extremely long. Now many women like http://www.realself.com/files/Breast-Implants-before-106471.JPG who instead of accentuating other great parts they have, a killer flat middle, buns of steel, bight piercing eyes, a Tom Cruz worthy smile, long flowing hair, etc, just say “pass me the saline”?

When I hit my 40s I had a sudden major growth spurt in the chest area. I have no idea why, but it was a natural occurrence and I didn’t have any work done. Now I’m a E and almost every day I’m subjected to a lot of really unpleasant attention focused like a laser beam at my chest. If people know of you (and even if they know you) and you were a C Dec. of a given year than 18 months later you are an E most will assume you purchased that rack and they were not all you (unless the rest of you expanded in proportion to your breast).

@Seek_Kolinahr They are flat and basically shapeless. I cannot fill out a bra. Any bra. They just don’t make bras that are even remotely comfortable to wear with breasts shaped like mine, because the bottom of the tuberous breast is about two or three inches higher than where the underwire would sit. Sorry about that, Mother nature doesn’t deal everyone the same hand as it seem. However maybe it was an opportunity for you to discover or create a bra (for those women who want to be trapped in one of those contraptions anyhow) for those like yourself to wear. If life gives you lemons make lemonade type of outlook.

My self esteem went to pot a long time ago. Who cares at this point? You hubby cares. I am sure he see you not just a Vulcan pair of tits. :-)

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Would women be concerned about having larger breasts if some men weren’t so obsessed with them? And if women would stop flocking to plastic surgeons to ”pump them up” natural size and shape would take root. It is like blaming drug cartels for flooding the streets with dope when the reason they do that is because we Americans can’t seem to get through the day or have any fun going out unless high or doped up in some fashion. If women cut off the supply maybe the demand would so South.

The thing is that there is no normal size. Breast reductions are completely understandable due to health reasons. I just don’t understand why women feel the need to have augmentations. Is it because they will feel better about themselves, or is it because they feel that they will be more attractive to a potential partner?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Without reading (no time) it’s because of all the pressure put on women to have a certain boob size. Playboy, for example. We’re told that we’re not attractive if we’re flat chested.

downtide's avatar

For me, it’s not the size of the boobs that matters as much as the overall package. Everything should be in proportion with everything else.

diavolobella's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I can’t speak to your remarks about accentuating other attributes if you have a smaller chest rather than saying “pass me the saline” because that doesn’t apply to me. I didn’t get breast implants so I never asked for any saline and I was perfectly happy with my other features. I do have many other lovely attributes (long legs, great big naturally green eyes, long flowing hair, a very fit body and, most importantly. a big heart and a decent brain), but while some people do appreciate those, they do not slobber over them the way people do over my breasts and those attributes do not prompt disgusting comments from strangers on the street. No one has ever yelled “Hey baby, come over here and let me j*ck off on those big green eyes of yours.”

The rest of me is the same as it ever was. The fact is that it is a rare occasion indeed for any of my friends or acquaintances to make remarks about my breasts. I think I could count those occasions on one hand. The issues I run into aren’t with my friends, but with total strangers who seem to think that a woman’s big chest gives them free rein to say anything and everything that might cross their mind. Just out of curiosity though, I took a quick poll of some of my friends this evening and it turns out that not a single one of them ever thought I had breast augmentation. They all said that the increase in size was too gradual, so that never occurred to them. Most also said if they thought I had, they would have just asked me directly. Long story short, the laser beam attention comes from strange men, not anyone I know.

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Ron_C's avatar

I was never obsessed with breast size. I find the really big ones disgusting. I like the whole woman and breasts are just a part of them. My first girlfriend didn’t have any, at least as far as she let me check. Subsequent girl friends and then my wife were moderately built. Besides, I like intelligent women and, in my experience, the larger the breast, the lower the I.Q.

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Ron_C's avatar

@noelleptc I knew there were exceptions that’s why I said “in my experience’ and you’re right, I’m not that experienced. We’ve been married since we were 18 and my wife frowns on me “gaining experience”/

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Ron_C's avatar

My last female friend with big boobs and I tried to make gravy one Thanksgiving. It turns out that what we made was turkey concrete. My wife and her husband were in the living room getting drunk. Fortunately they came into the kitchen and saved supper. I know for a fact that this big boobed lady didn’t know squat about cooking. I, unfortunately, knew about the same.

FutureMemory's avatar

Besides, I like intelligent women and, in my experience, the larger the breast, the lower the I.Q.

I so wish I could wake Simone up right now.

rooeytoo's avatar

So she didn’t know about cooking because she had big breasts, and big breasts = low intelligence. That is so ignorant it isn’t even worth responding to.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@diavolobella Long story short, the laser beam attention comes from strange men, not anyone I know. And as the examples above shows some women are so uncomfortable without having anything or too little they believe for men to laser their gaze at that they are willling to pay for it, and the suppose back pain. I guess having “hub caps” and not being wolf wistled to many women just isn’t good enough. Makes you wonder why? Ummmmmmm…..............

Ron_C's avatar

@rooeytoo obviously the point of my story went right over your head.

rooeytoo's avatar

@Ron_C – I didn’t realize your story had a point. And just where is the point in this oh so informative comment, “Besides, I like intelligent women and, in my experience, the larger the breast, the lower the I.Q.”

Ron_C's avatar

@rooeytoo I see that you got hung up on that statement. Frankly, I don’t know why I answered in the first place. I’m uncomfortable with this subject and since breast size is, to me, unimportant, ‘ll end it here. I wish you well.

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