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LostInParadise's avatar

Do vampires and zombies have the right to vote?

Asked by LostInParadise (31904points) October 31st, 2010

I thought I would combine the themes of Halloween and election day. Are there any laws preventing people from voting after they have died? I thought this might be a theme for someone to write a satirical book on vampires and zombies.

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weeveeship's avatar

No, but I have heard on the news that people use dead people’s names to cast extra votes.

Trillian's avatar

Let them form special interest groups and lobby in DC like everybody else.

LostInParadise's avatar

Think about this. Daylight savings time ends just before election day. Coincidence, or do vampires have influence in Congress, from one set of blood suckers to another.

ucme's avatar

Hmm, bloodsuckers & the undead. Aren’t they the guys & gals who were voted for?

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Let’s think about this:
1.) Were they legally allowed to vote before they died? For example, Count Dracula would not, as he is from Transylvania, and as far as I know, never obtained citizenship in the US.
2.) Were they registered to vote? I think that rules out any Frankenstein monsters as well.
3.) Do they have proper ID? And at this point, do they look anything like the photo on it?
4.) Have they been legally declared dead?
5.) Can vampires survive exposed to daylight?

lillycoyote's avatar

I don’t think dead people are expressly prohibited by law from voting, it’s just assumed that they won’t. It is, however, considered voter fraud for anyone to vote using the identity of dead person. But assuming they are eligible to vote and registered, I think vampires can continue to vote as normal if and when they become vampires because they don’t actually die, do they? But I think zombies might have to reregister when their status changes from “dead” to “living dead” or at least they should check into whether or not they are currently registered to vote long enough before any election to give them time to register because I think dead people are regularly purged from the voting rolls though I’m not entirely sure if or exactly how that’s done.

talljasperman's avatar

I think dead people can vote in boards of Governors meetings… with an executor granting permission from ones will

ZEPHYRA's avatar

They can vote, they can rule, they can run successful election campaigns. They rule, they can do ANYTHING!

Trillian's avatar

@Pied_Pfeffer has a good point. Will we then have to set up special voting booths and pay someone to run them at night? Really? In every voting district across the country? Of course, or someone will whine about discrimination, voting booths aren’t vampire accessible. And of course, vampires being what they are, how will we guarantee the safety o people running the booths? I can see the potential for lawsuits on both sides, booth worker families complaining about the disappearance of loved ones while on duty, vampires complaining about the government agencies not taking their nature into account and setting up politically correct protection for workers, thus leading the vampire into temptation, Or protection for the workers causing offense to the vampiric sensebilities. Is that double pane plexiglass, crucifix and vat of holy water really necessary? I must say that these precautions against me are offensive.
Dear god I have so much fun with questions like this. ;-)

Cruiser's avatar

@Pied_Pfeffer That is why we have write in early voting so even the undead can vote!

flutherother's avatar

They may not have the right to vote but whose going to stop them if they try? The next thing will be voting booths open only at night and decent law abiding citizens too scared to vote. Where will it all end? Don’t say it can’t happen here it has already started

Kardamom's avatar

Only if they are un-dead citizens of the country in which they are going to vote. And they haven’t comitted any felonies while they were alive or un-dead.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

This site and many others call it “Dead People Voting”, and that it is a type of election fraud. It’s surprising how common it is. People’s deaths are not being reported in a timely manner is one reason. And apparently, when someone dies, you have to notify the registration office in order to get them off of the list. I haven’t run across any reports of actual punishment.

It appears that to cross-check names of those that are dead against those that voted is time-consuming and expensive. It is more likely to happen if an election results in a very close number of votes (called for by the losing candidate) or the news media is looking for a story.

@Cruiser Good point.

filmfann's avatar

The Illinois presidental election in 1960, was attributed to more dead people voting for Kennedy than Nixon.

lillycoyote's avatar

@Pied_Pfeffer Thanks for the link and the info. I mentioned that “voting by the dead” was considered voting fraud in my comment above but I had no idea what the mechanism was for purging dead voters from the list of registered voters might be or how often it would be done. I don’t think they punish you for not reporting some one’s death to have them removed from the voters’ rolls but they most certainly will punish people for voter fraud. I guess it’s just the kind of thing that’s pretty easy to get away with if no one’s looking for it. It seems like it would be pretty easy to determine whether if happened or not, if you’re looking for it but difficult to determine who actually committed and organized the fraud.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

@lillycoyote Thanks friend. Yeah, I saw your post about it being fraud, and would assume that there is a law against it and that people caught would be prosecuted. I just couldn’t find any specific examples of punishment.

Note: People’s deaths are not being reported in a timely manner is one reason. This comment should have been more specific. It is the responsibility of the government agency who issues death certificates to report them to the voter’s registration office. The guidelines on timeliness vary by state, and possibly local. Considering how many cases have been discovered in the US, you’d think that reporting deaths in a timely manner during an election year would be a big deal.

lillycoyote's avatar

O.K. I was wondering who was supposed to report it. My father’s death was reported automatically to social security. The only government entity that I had to report his death to was the VA but that was about his life insurance, the rest of the notifications were all to private entities I think. He died in 2007 and I figured his death was reported to election officials somehow because the state mails out a “Polling Place Card” to each registered voter before presidential and and mid-term elections and I didn’t get one for him in 2008, I don’t think, and I know I didn’t get one for him this year.

But I live in state with a population of less than a million so it’s probably not that hard to stay on top of it. And in terms of politics, we have more of a back room dealing tradition than a fraud and corruption tradition. I don’t think very many dead people vote around here. :-)

Cruiser's avatar

@filmfann If you check, Nixon fired his campaign manager for that reason alone!

TexasDude's avatar

Vampires and zombies don’t have the right to vote. They have the right to be staked/vaporized with UV rays or shot/incinerated/decapitated before they kill again.

YARNLADY's avatar

There have been many vote that can be traced back to the deceased.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

@YARNLADY That voted for themselves, or by someone else taking advantage of their current status?

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

I am sure that they vote early and vote often ;)

poment's avatar

Most voting places close at 7 PM so unless Daylight Savings Time is not in effect then vampires may technically be omitted by conditions placed upon their existence. It therefore appears to be a form of discrimination which can be filed with the Department of Obscurity which is currently updating information as to the whereabouts of Pres. Obama’s birth certificate.

poment's avatar

solution : Absentee Ballot

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