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Are flu shots really some kind of government or big pharma plot to control minds?

Asked by lucid (154points) November 16th, 2010

I got a flu shot today. I haven’t had one in years, partially because I just feel like they are a useless expense since I never get it. But this year I’m afraid some friends may have it, so it seemed a like a good idea. I told someone that I got one and they started talking about mind control. I don’t really believe something like that… because as someone whom studies psychology, that would be ridiculous. But I don’t put it past big companies trying to get you sick so that they make a profit, or something to that effect. So, I suppose my questions really is: what are the arguments for and against conspiracies involving influenza and the vaccination. Debunking in either direction is welcomed.

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coffeenut's avatar

Yes..it is they have you now

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I don’t think it has anything to do with mind control, but I honestly think the drug companies push some hazardous things on the public because of greed.

mrlaconic's avatar

I am a believer that if the time comes that there needs to be a mass genocide it will be done through the distribution of medication (and or putting something else in plastic bottles thats bad for you).

At one point I think the flu shot could be used for this.

As for now.. I don’t think so and since I work on computers in a call center where sick mothers come and spread the sickness from there kids around by spreading snot on the keyboards and mice… a flu shot is necessary and I got it.

jaytkay's avatar

I get one every year and am very happy to avoid the flu many of my friends “enjoy”.

BarnacleBill's avatar

Given that just about every insurance carrier pays for flu shots at 100%, no. The lost productivity from having workers continually sick is damaging to a company. We’ve had 15 people in our department out with at stomach virus since 11/1. They’ve missed 2–3 days each. We’re now about 3 weeks behind schedule on most of our projects. And that’s not even the flu.

I had the Hong Kong Flu in the 1970’s, and was flat on my back for 12 days. You don’t want to go there.

perspicacious's avatar

I don’t know but will help you spread the rumor.

lucid's avatar

@BarnacleBill maybe i should have worded the question differently… I’m implying that big drug companies want to keep you sick… and they would want insurance to cover it too. For instance… I’m not intending to open up heated debate on this but: every single person I know with type 1 diabetes, most of whom I know work in the medical industry, believe it has been curable for a very long time, but is so profitable that there is no interest in really curing the problem. This general concept may be related in some way, whether or not it is true.

chyna's avatar

Ever read The Stand by Stephen King?

mrentropy's avatar

It’s absolutely true. And I could tell you more things that would have your head spinning.

EDIT: Some nice folks from Walgreens just came by offering flu shots to people who can’t be bothered going out to get them. I went ahead and got it and just wanted to let you know that I was really joking. There’s no conspiracy here

Flavio's avatar

@lucid
First, no there is no subversive activity on the part of drug companies to control you. They advertise on TV and try to convince you to ask your doctor for whatever, but that is the extent of their influence on people. Their degree of success depends on your susceptibility to advertising, paranoid rumors, etc. They influence doctors by giving them financial incentives to prescribe on drug over another. Young doctors are very aware of this ploy and on the whole are much more suspicious of drug companies than older doctors. Most self-respecting academic medical centers and large practices have banned sales-reps. You have a right, and I encourage everyone, to ask your doctor of she is part of a company’s speaker’s bureau and express concern over the independence of her prescribing habits.

Second, Diabetes 1 is not curable in any practical way. DM1 is decreased production of insulin by the pancreas. The only way is to transplant the pancreas or implant some other tissue that can produce insulin. This is not a practical solution given the risk of surgery, particularly in diabetic individuals.

wenn's avatar

Gov’t & big pharma told you to get one, and you got one right?

They’re controlling your miiiiiinnnnndddd!!! :O

talljasperman's avatar

no they are trying to control your wallet

Ron_C's avatar

What can I say? When I get the shot, I don’t get the flu, when I neglect it, I do. If the government gives me the flu as punishment, then they are a lot smarted than I credit them.

MyNewtBoobs's avatar

No, but I do think they make it seem like a bigger deal than it is to make you keep buying it.

Coloma's avatar

No.

I have gotten the shot the past 4 years after 2 years in a row of a killer flu.

I also got the H1N1 before traveling to asia last year…better safe than sorry and I was well the whole time I was traveling.

Spent a lot of time on the metro systems and think it was a wise choice, especially being surrounded by people wearing masks.

lucid's avatar

@Flavio i agree with you, thanks for the good answer

Trillian's avatar

Yes. Save yourself. Wrap tinfoil around your head and tape all your windows.

deni's avatar

i think you guys can make all the snide remarks you want but the truth is it could be happening and, clearly, we are an unsuspecting public and a public who believes that our government couldn’t possibly be hiding anything from us. because…they….are perfect and 100% good, right? and that is exactly why if they wanted to do it, they could. i don’t think they are, but i think they could.

mammal's avatar

According to Moulder, yes, but the answer is no.

Trillian's avatar

@mammal Mulder is always right.

meiosis's avatar

Given the litigious nature of society, and the large number of people who would have to be in on the conspiracy, it would be commercial suicide for a large pharmaceutical company to attempt such activity.

As for the type 1 diabetes issue, here in the UK the health system is not profit driven and the eradication of this disease would prove very helpful to NHS finances. If were eradicable, I think we might have seen some progress.

@mrlaconic Whatever it is that the mothers are spreading around your office, it’s highly unlikely to be the flu. I know a GP who said she could count on her fingers the number of people she’s seen with genuine influenza in her surgery, as they’re generally too sick to leave their bed, let alone the house.

ragingloli's avatar

I do not think so.
It would take countless amounts of terran currency to research how to control the human brain via technology in more than just a superficial way, to develop the actual technology and to keep the mouths of so many collaborators shut.
It is much cheaper to rely on tried successful methods like good old propaganda (the fear kind of propaganda seems to work especially well on americans) to control the minds of the populace, especially when you have several media companies that will do the job for you, voluntarily and on their own cost.

skfinkel's avatar

The flu is a really awful thing to get, if you get the real flu. And I think there is a genuine social concern to prevent people from catching it. That is not to say that drug companies that will not try and make money (as much as possible) on the vaccine.

Bagardbilla's avatar

Anytime anyone gets you to do something re your body (build up immunity), something it naturally already does (by normal contact and exposure), for a cost (out of pocket or insurance), buddy you’re already dooped!

mattbrowne's avatar

Trust the experts at the WHO and CDC, instead of the conspiracy theorists.

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