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Who else is expecting yet more snow and ice, on top of several feet of snow and ice?

Asked by gailcalled (54644points) February 1st, 2011

Here in rural eastern NYS, we are due for another two or so feet. It is getting alarming. People who dare are shoveling off their roofs. We also have hidden thick ice beneath old snow. My deck looks like the Kumbu Icefall.

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Jude's avatar

I am. Fourteen inches by tomorrow morning (with gusting winds and freezing rain). I have a concert to go to in Royal Oak, Michigan, tomorrow (roughly an hour drive). It may be cancelled. We’ll see.

I am stocking up on bananas, bread and beer.

Meego's avatar

Good Lord!! We here are expecting “paralyzing conditions” and up to 30 more cm. Looks like I will have to dig out the car again….Spring anyone?

JilltheTooth's avatar

Happening as we speak! I have noticed, however, that here, instead of more distress about the current storm the “yummy wars” have begun. People here are talking more about creative cooking than about shoveling. Seems a major paradigm shift in attitude. Me? I’m making a salmon chowder. Thinking of chocolate mint cookies with white chocolate chips for later…

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Southern Tier of upstate NY. We got 6 to 8 inches in the first blast, now it’s lightly snowing. The forecast is for another 4 to 8 tonight, with sleet and freezing rain mixed in. There’s several feet on the ground and the driving is getting iffy because of the high snow banks. You can’t see traffic at all.

wundayatta's avatar

They said it would already be starting. An inch of snow, then sleet, then an inch of freezing rain. I decided to take the trolley today instead of driving just so I wouldn’t have to drive with those other yahoos who don’t understand that ice is slippery and spinning your wheels is an ineffective way to get going.

But that ice better get going soon, or I’m going to be kicking myself.

janbb's avatar

Just rain here so far, although we got clobbered last week when you didn’t. The snows of yesteryear are all still here.

gailcalled's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe: I hope that you have gas burners and an oven.

I assume power loss so make sure I have clean hair, clean laundry, clean dishes, water in the bath tub, wood for the stove, a working land line and food I can eat out of the can or jar.

@janbb: Les neiges d’aujourd’hui et demain aussi.

JilltheTooth's avatar

@gailcalled: Our neiges are supposed to degenerate to a mix and killer roads tomorrow.

gailcalled's avatar

@Meego: Where are you?

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@gailcalled No electric = no heat, no water. The only source of water is the big tub. I have a propane camping stove.

Meego's avatar

@wundayatta I own a manual car it proves more when you ineffectively spin your tires as not only do you not go anywhere you also have a chance to rev the engine to the redline which is not good for your car…you have much better control in a manual with good winter tires than an automatic driving in snow. Also much more use of the e-brake than in an automatic why when I had my automatic car only when I got the brakes changed did I find out my e-brake was not only frozen solid but totally not working at all!! My uncle gave me good advice if slipping in a manual car pop it into neutral & use the e-brake..he also said you can do this in an automatic but if you are not used to it it is much harder. My uncle is a 40 yr truck driver. If only everyone was much smarter in the crappy weather!

Meego's avatar

@gailcalled I’m in Ontario. Although I feel like I live with Santa in the HOH OHO postal code!

gailcalled's avatar

@Meego: Now that my daughter is living in Squamish, BC, V8B 0R2 , I understand your postal code joke.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Meego Are you referring to the emergency brake or an engine brake?

Cruiser's avatar

We are in the middle of it here in Chicago….looking pretty bad. Everybody is running for cover and the stores are picked clean here.

JilltheTooth's avatar

@gailcalled : My sister’s in Victoria… @Meego : That got a chuckle from me, too.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Cruiser My sympathy to you guys. I looked at the weather map for your area last night. I wouldn’t change places with you.

Meego's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I am referring to the emergency brake.

The postal code is no joke sadly…LOL…the kids write letters to Santa and use that postal code! :/

Cruiser's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe This one is shaping up to be brutal!! **I LOVE IT!!!**

Meego's avatar

http://flic.kr/p/9eSojH and http://flic.kr/p/9eVvh9 are before tonites storm…its not so bad right now.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Meego I’ve used the push in the clutch thing if the car is sliding, but we used to use the e brake to make the car spin around for the fun of it not to counter a slide. How do you use the e brake to catch a slide? That is santa’s real postal code?

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Cruiser If it’s the first few storms, no problem. After two straight months of it, that’s starting to be a little much.

Meego's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I have no clue..lol I have never had to do it. Probably don’t yank on the brake full, I’m not sure it’s just something my uncle told me.
Oh and yes it’s his real postal code.

Jude's avatar

We had this less than a month ago. Another photo.

Pretty.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Meego We used to go on an icy parking lot, get the car going pretty good, and yank the e brake hard. It locks up the back wheels and makes the car spin around like a top. Just make sure the parking lot is big enough.
@Jude That looks cold.

Meego's avatar

Eeek! I had the postal code wrong..here is the right one http://www.writetosanta.ca/santas-address.php

Meego's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I know sometimes your brakes can lock if your sliding and you push the foot brake if that happens you need to use the emergency brake, but slowly, I had an accident cause my brakes locked and I could not find the emergency brake in time! Luckily I only broke my license plate holder and put a pinky size dent in the car in front of me, this was before I had good tires :/

Oh and that parking lot thing, I know it well, my brother used to take me to the top of the underground parking lot and do that…scares the beejezuus out of ya too as you think the last think you will ever be known for is flying off the top of a 3 story parking garage…whew who!!! LOL

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Meego We don’t have many parking garages around, but that sounds like fun.

Cruiser's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I know what you mean and this is the first winter in recent memory where we have had snow on the ground all winter!! **I LOVE IT**

Meego's avatar

FYI: I just found this, it has some great info..
http://news.sympatico.cbc.ca/canada/storm_warning_upgraded_for_southern_ontario/d4758329

LOL I did not have Santa’s address wrong! Ahhhh I kill me, I love what affects a mild stroke has had on my brain and memory

lillycoyote's avatar

<<—- We are, hence the avatar. :-) We’ve still got about 8 inches, not feet of snow on the ground from the last storm. Last night they were predicting 9–12 inches of snow but over night we moved out of the snow belt into the “icy mess” belt; the forecast is: “Freezing rain likely with possible rain and freezing drizzle in the evening…Then rain and freezing rain after midnight.” It could be a real mess. But they’re predicting rain and a high of 41f for tomorrow so it shouldn’t be too bad for too long.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

They are forecasting 12”-18” by this afternoon.I hope to be out in it.:)

jeffgoldblumsprivatefacilities's avatar

We only got a couple of inches of new snow here today, but the high temperature for the day is -1 F, and the current windchill is -33 F. I skipped my morning walk today.

jca's avatar

I live in NY-Putnam County right near Danbury CT. I am so sick of snow. I stayed home today, and I have been missing about one day per week of work since 12/26/10. I am using up my vacation time, but I work about an hour from my house so the alternative is a 3 hour ride each way, if I can even get there. We had snow this morning, now it stopped, and it’s supposed to be freezing sleet and ice later on and into tomorrow (Wednesday).

They say we are in a weather pattern now, melted ice at Arctic means that ice is no longer reflecting the sun back and so therefore it has done something to the weather down here. Supposedly it’s going to be this way for the next few years, at least.

What I have been thinking is so this year we have been getting one to two feet every week. About twice weekly we have some kind of snow. We have record January snowfalls in New York. What happens if it gets to be two times this bad next year or in years to come? Will we have four foot snowfalls instead of two food snowfalls? Will it snow every other day instead of once per week? That will have serious implications for snow removal, transportation, the delivery of public services, the economy, all kinds of things.

lillycoyote's avatar

@Meego My car’s a manual too and all wheel drive, and I feel much better driving a manual in the snow and ice. I feel like I have more control when it’s really bad if I can inch along in 2nd. One winter, a bad one, though it was another car, I’m not sure I ever got of second the whole winter. I haven’t tried the neutral and emergency brake thing. I did have one 360 degree spin earlier this winter but I was only going about 5mph and there, luckily, was nothing to run into and no ditch to fall into so it wasn’t that bad.

gailcalled's avatar

I drive in 1st, 2nd, or 3d gear here when the ice is bad on hills; my car is an automatic Subaru Forester.

JilltheTooth's avatar

I really miss driving a stick, but my Honda CRV is good in this. Much to my amazement, the 1st and 2nd gears on the automatic really do work! I am glad of this.

Aster's avatar

Wind chill of 7. No snow until a little tonight. Coldest air I’ve ever felt but the streets are dry and safe.
Growing up with a chapped face and frozen ears and fingertips makes the idea of being out in this not a turn on. Break out the hot tea , fireplace, meatloaf and tv. and an Oreo here and there.

Meego's avatar

@lillycoyote I agree with you, inching along in 2nd gear is helpful in the bad weather, I am although quite grateful I do not live in a hilly slippery area and I’m not sure what I would do if I was on an incline and it was icy. Close call with the spin I am glad you came out fine. I own a Mazda 3 sport the only problem is..it is fast. But I’ll let y’all know tonight how it is if cadets is not cancelled for my daughter =O

Cruiser's avatar

WHITE OUT!!!

JilltheTooth's avatar

Flaunting your hot tub is just making me cranky. Grrrrrr

lillycoyote's avatar

Automatic, manual, whatever…:-) I think we can agree that the most important element in winter driving like, all driving, is not so much the car but the driver. Feeling comfortable driving what you drive, having control and knowing both your’s and your car’s abilities and limitations. Just drive safely, my fellow Flithicles, and I will do the same.

Or would that be “Fluthicles?”

Meego's avatar

@lillycoyote Most definitely! I agree fully. Safe driving everyone..I think I like fluthicles better than flithicles..I tawt I taw a puddy tat…I did, I did see a puddy tat…awww fluthering flucatash…..

Cruiser's avatar

@JilltheTooth Sorry about that! How rude of me! ;))

Meego's avatar

@lillycoyote we could also be age appropriate….
Fluthering fucathash

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Are you guys sufferring from cabin ffever already?

JilltheTooth's avatar

@Cruiser : Bring it back out after I’ve finished dealing with tomorrow’s yuck-fest. I’ll join you there. ;-)

jonsblond's avatar

We’re supposed to get 2ft here in western Illinois. The way the snow drifts here on the farm, I’m pretty sure we won’t be able to open the front door in the morning. Our car is already getting buried.

Brian1946's avatar

@jeffgoldblumsprivatefacilities

What’s the altitude where you live?

lillycoyote's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I can’t speak for everyone, but I certainly seem to be ssuffering from cabin fever already. I’ve been watching clips of Silvestro e Titti on youtube for the past 15 minutes. It’s hilarious.

I hopped over to youtube to get a clip of Sylvester the Cat and Tweety Bird and found the Italian versions.

Brian1946's avatar

@lillycoyote The thought of a pussy cat chasing Titti bird seems like Robert Crumb erotica. ;-)

bkcunningham's avatar

@gailcalled 78 degrees here in Florida today. Same for tomorrow. No shoveling sunshine in my forecast. Husband is back in the Northeast and has snow and expecting about a half of an inch of freezing rain tonight on top of the 8 inches of snow.

gailcalled's avatar

@bkcunningham: Who invited you to the party?

Jude's avatar

Pokes bk in the keister with an icicle.

bkcunningham's avatar

@gailcalled yeah, my husband tells me politely to eat dirt when I give him the forecast.

JilltheTooth's avatar

@bkcunningham : At least you can find dirt!

Brian1946's avatar

Who here has chains on or snow studs in their tires?

Meego's avatar

I don’t have chains or studs but hey I could benefit from one or the other or both….LOL

BarnacleBill's avatar

We’re expecting ice and high winds, but little snow.

The hardware store was selling Yaktrax and I bought a pair “just in case.” I find if I buy something in preparation for an event, it will be several years before I get to use that item.

Brian1946's avatar

@Meego

One February I was driving from Boston to Los Angeles, and I had to slow down to 15 MPH to change lanes after leaving Buffalo.

I got studded tires in Erie, PA; after that I was able to drive a blazing 45 MPH and safely change lanes.

Meego's avatar

My studs will be more of the manly version….
But the tire version sounds very safe, although I don’t think you can get chains on a small sports car…this I don’t know for sure…would help alot though!

Cruiser's avatar

<<Cruiser throws in the towel!!>> I have done the driveway 3 x’s since I got home from work and it is all but a lost cause…..Getting thundersnow as I type! COOL!

Jude's avatar

It’s gorgeous out!

jonsblond's avatar

@Cruiser Might as well give up for now. The snowplows have stopped here and will resume in the morning. We’re at 10 inches and expecting 14 more! Be safe my friend!

gailcalled's avatar

I have been plowed once already and expect a Fluther whip-round after tomorrow’s bill.

bkcunningham's avatar

@gailcalled I had to do a double take after reading your response. For a second there I thought I was back in the thread about lust.

Cruiser's avatar

@jonsblond I hear ya there!! This blizzard is brutal!!

gailcalled's avatar

@bkcunningham: Being snowed in gives me a chance to learn new words. In addition to “whip-round,” I discovered also “strabismus.”

bkcunningham's avatar

@gailcalled how many times would you have to be plowed to develop strabismus? lol

lillycoyote's avatar

It seems, perhaps, that the “icy mess” has finally begun, just in the past few minutes, but it is several hours behind schedule. It was supposed to start this evening with freezing rain, then possible rain, then freezing drizzle, then rain, then freezing rain after midnight, in that order! Is this the “freezing rain” or the “freezing drizzle?” How do I tell? What the hell is the difference between the two? Honestly, is there really a difference? How could it possible matter, even if there is. I think my cabin fever is getting worse. But I went to Pep Boys, to get new windshield wiper blades… that was kind of an outing, wasn’t it? Shouldn’t that have helped a bit, at least?

JilltheTooth's avatar

Wow, it’s REALLY slick out there now. Did the arse over teakettle thing just taking the dog out to pee. ow ow ow ow ow Should be an interesting day…..

Cruiser's avatar

Made it to work…took and hour to shovel through a 7’ snow drift in front of my building! What a lot of snow out there!! WOW!

Jude's avatar

We got a good 14 inches and it’s still coming (I think that y’all should take pictures and post them here). I am a bit worried about the drifts, as the wind is picking up.

I have a cup of freshly brewed, some peanut butter toast, and some Miles Davis playing in the background. I’m “hunkerin’ down” and I love it. Cozy and beautiful.

No school today for the teach.

gailcalled's avatar

@lilycoyote: Here also there is the illusion, this morning, of having escaped relatively unscathed. However, I see that starting at noon, we are going to be seriously scathed.

JilltheTooth's avatar

@gailcalled : I think all of us in the area are in a state of permanent scathe.

Meego's avatar

Ok, so last night on my way home from picking up my daughter from cadets the roads were horrible!! At one point I almost went through the light I hit the brakes, no stopping, sliding, sliding, quick check around me there was about 6 cars around fast put it in neutral foot on brake still sliding slightly lift the emergency brake…ACCOMPLISHED! I look over at my daughter and say…“I DID IT! I think I just peed myself and had a heart-attack at the same time, but hey you“ll make it to your 16th birthday….your welcome!”. Daughter is still slightly “moved” says “huh?”. “well if I didn’t have such good reaction time and driving skills we could be like that car we saw earlier on that tow truck!??”. “oh ok thank you”
And then we laughed in the face of danger hahaha.

Anyway I took the liberty to take a picture which doesn’t look much different from before.

The wind last night was killer! When I look at my car there is no snow cover, maybe the wind helped. Here is my latest pic…

http://flic.kr/p/9f9uz3

Enjoy shovelling! Digging, making igloos, snow angels, snowmen and snowballs and stay warm we might be fluthers but try to sustain from the actual flu part =D

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Meego Great job! @Cruiser:Still lovin it?
I went out to fill my bird feeders this morning and in some places the snow was up to my thighs.

Cruiser's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe No very much hating it as I have a 40’ wide snow drift blocking the loading dock. :(

Jude's avatar

From this morning. Across the street from my girlfriend’s place. Lake Huron.

gailcalled's avatar

This was taken just before the most recent blast.

jonsblond's avatar

We received 18 inches with many 4 ft drifts scattered about the farm. We have a section of our driveway, maybe about 250 feet or so, that drifted over with 2 feet of snow. My husband is such a trooper. He’s out there now digging a path so he can get to work tomorrow. I tried to help, but was just in the way. :/

@cruiser That path through the snow to the door looks like the path my husband is making. It’s up over his head on both sides of him now. What a storm!

janbb's avatar

Go @Blonds, Go!

jonsblond's avatar

Here’s the photo I just put on FB. Jon’s about 75% done and running out of daylight. :/

http://i.imgur.com/4qfbz.jpg

lillycoyote's avatar

Well, our little “icy mess” storm turned out to be a bust, thank goodness. I was a little worried because when I checked outside, right before I went to bed, the trees were icing up some, glistening in the moonlight and all. I know I lost power because when I got up in the morning the digital clocks on my oven and microwave were blinking but it I don’t really know for how long. I don’t think it could have been too long. I don’t know. I never really reset those clocks from the last time we lost power for a bit. We just don’t lose the power here, not seriously, thankfully. There are at least one or two more storms on the way but hopefully they will be busts too.

And that’s some good looking snow you all have got there. Good luck!

and @gailcalled… did you get scathed? We didn’t.

Cruiser's avatar

@jonsblond That’s a brutal! I felt so bad for the people having to shovel all that snow and 250’ of it no less! WOW!

gailcalled's avatar

@lillycoyote : At this point we hardly noticed the 6”. But I will be out on the streets with my begging bowl as soon as I can see the streets. The plowing bill is going to give me an infarction.

JilltheTooth's avatar

I’m off to try to buy me some Yak Trax today. I’m a little sick of the falling down thing. My poor dignity is beyond bruised.

Ron_C's avatar

We had a slight melt off yesterday when the temperature went above freezing for a few hours. However there is still more than two feet on the ground and they are expecting more this weekend. I haven’t seen my driveway since the beginning of December and don’t expect it to come back for another month. We now have about 2” of ice because of the snow that melted yesterday and the blade on my tractor just slides over it.

JilltheTooth's avatar

Found YakTrax! Now I’ll be OK on these icy mornings, and hopefully ready for the next wave of slidey crap on Saturday. Traction rules!

gailcalled's avatar

@JilltheTooth: You also have the bonus of the exertion required in order to stretch them over your shoes. I have mine sitting on in the garage, next to shoes, but am always either too lazy or too hurried to bother.

So I continue to step mindfully over patches of frozen white stuff.

JilltheTooth's avatar

After two mornings going plop on my butt when an anxious-to-pee pup gives an injudicious yank of the leash, I am willing to fight with the stabilizers. I tried them on in the store and they weren’t too hard. I should be able to handle this…

gailcalled's avatar

@JilltheTooth: Well then, I hope that you bought two pairs in size small for ‘Zuppie.

I got out today finally and drive through a world of drifts, ice and glitter to check on my mother. The periodic sounds of huge icicles crashing to the ground was the musical accompaniment to the trip.

JilltheTooth's avatar

When I was out, everybody was giddy and silly in a very kids-at-recess kind of way.

jca's avatar

My yard looks like pieces of glass broke on top of the snow. It’s ice that broke off the tree limbs. The snow has a hard icy shell on top of it. It’s insane. Luckily I’m athletic so I could balance and not fall on the walk from the car (sarcasm).

Shegrin's avatar

It never snows in my part of Texas, but San Antonio woke up to three inches of snow and ice today. Talk about a city collectively freaking out! 91 accidents, even though all highways and schools are closed. Where are these people going on a day like today? I can’t imagine any company would want their employees to risk their autos just to go to work for half a day. Stay home!! The news people are calling it “Snowmageddon.”

gailcalled's avatar

Because of yesterday’s 32˚, I now have serious water oozing under the door and floor-length windows in my basement. Tomorrow I am paying someone to shovel the two feet of snow and ice on a deck that is 30” x 12”.

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