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kibuyaga's avatar

Are the recent weather tornadoes and storms a consequence of global warming?

Asked by kibuyaga (4points) April 28th, 2011

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syz's avatar

You can’t use such a tiny sample to make such a sweeping generalization – it’s long term trends that will reflect the disruption in weather patterns.

Seelix's avatar

Global warming does contribute to more intense weather patterns, so they say. So probably in a sort of roundabout way, kinda.

gorillapaws's avatar

It improves the statistical odds. So let’s say there was supposed to be major 3 storms one year on average, but instead you get 5 because of climate change. You can’t attribute any individual storm to climate change, but you’re going to have more of them and of greater intensity than you otherwise would have had. Just because the math is fuzzy, doesn’t mean it isn’t real, and isn’t costing taxpayers lots of money.

Qingu's avatar

I don’t think you’d be able to draw a one-to-one correlation.

As I understand it, the mechanism for global warming causing severe weather is that as Earth warms, more water evaporates from the ocean. That water is the source of weather patterns. So if there’s more water hanging out in Earth’s atmosphere at any given time, there’s more weather of note.

Whether or not that weather is supposed to be more intense, I’m not sure. Though another worry is that climate change will shift stable weather patterns into new areas.

AllAboutWaiting's avatar

Remain open to weather manipulation that occurs experimentally. Atmospheric Geoengineering, weather modification, whatever they (“they” remain to be identified) call it is true, and used commercially in Colorado for guaranteed snow in the mountain resorts. Remember the con-trails absence after grounding air traffic world-wide after 911? A whole bunch of changes were measured in the atmosphere that stunned scientists. Crazy, weird, unbelievable but true. We don’t know a fraction of creepy experiments gone wrong, or the scale of them, and in most cases it’s for our own good.

mattbrowne's avatar

We don’t know yet. It might.

The history of the water temperature of the Gulf of Mexico can give us some clues.

Qingu's avatar

@AllAboutWaiting, what a silly conspiracy theory. By the same logic, maybe it’s aliens making the tornadoes. Because we don’t know a fraction of the possible alien life forms out there, and you can’t prove they don’t make tornadoes.

We know exactly why these tornadoes happened. There does not need to be someone in control.

AllAboutWaiting's avatar

@Qinqu – That was a good response initially, but…...Wow, you really know exactly why they happened? Better speak up so they can predict them better. You brought up aliens, not me, and using “conspiracy theory” is a cheap way to try to discredit someone. You should read about HAARP and what goes on with that apparatus – others may enjoy it as well, tax dollars helped build it – to talk to and fry your aliens. Consider some more facts, educate and open your mind, and contribute something useful and interesting rather than being careless and belligerent. Take your time, we all know you’ve got some reading ahead of you.

Qingu's avatar

@AllAboutWaiting, yes, we know exactly why tornadoes happen. Tornadoes are vortices in atmospheric currents. The physics is well-understood.

We can’t predict exactly when and where tornadoes will happen because weather is a chaotic system. But just because something is chaotic doesn’t mean we don’t know the rules that it follows.

And there’s a large difference between having an open mind and being a gullible fool who believes any unevidenced, nonsensical idea that sounds exciting.

AllAboutWaiting's avatar

@Qingu, as demonstrated by the toilet, kids make sense of how. Why here and not there is what you’re careful not to touch. Hand it over to chaos, then cite rules….. and to suggest your open mind would be gullible – there’s a big difference between someone who takes new information for consideration and someone who discounts others contributions automatically. Alone, upset and decided, what a life that would be with nothing left to learn.
HAARP claims to be able to heat the atmosphere to incredible temperatures. Is that whole installation something that you would rather ignore? Is it something easily understood ? I think the unevidenced and nonsensical is the host of possible contributors we’re force fed, all very tangible for easy digestion of the herd. Look at the marketing used to sell almost every product group we have. Find a problem, sell a solution, get rich – the gullible are suddenly right in your face.
You wouldn’t be a fool to think you’re out of the loop for experimental conduct by government. Are there no secrets in this world of yours ? Suddenly someone appears to be the first line of defence against independent thought, possibly referring stubborn inquiries and possibilities to the authorities. Every day we’re insulted with things we had no idea occurred under our nose, with money better spent elsewhere. Sounds exciting, secret budgets leave no evidence, and makes no sense to the average person. Stomp your feet no all you like, you’re right where they want us. Good Citizen.

Qingu's avatar

According to HAARP’s website: “The Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high power transmitter facility operating in the High Frequency (HF) range. The IRI will be used to temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere for scientific study.”

Do you know what the ionosphere is? And what “limited area” means? Do you know what the ionosphere has to do with tornadoes? (The answer to that is “nothing.”)

Besides, we already have the technology to heat up the entire atmosphere to high temperatures and permanently change Earth’s weather. They’re called nuclear weapons. We actually shot one into space and detonated it to see if it would create an artificial Van Allen belt . Far worse than anything HAARP can do. (Though it sure didn’t have much effect on Earth’s atmosphere…)

By the way, what exactly is your threshhold for “discounting contributions automatically”? You seemed to dismiss my suggestion that aliens made the tornadoes out of hand. But if you knew anything about atmospheric physics, you would also dismiss HAARP being responsible out of hand as well. Part of being knowledgable about a subject means being able to spot bullshit quickly.

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