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If you searched for nothing, how long would it take you to find it?

Asked by ETpro (34605points) May 13th, 2011

How would you know when you had succeeded? How do you even visualize noting in your mind so that you can recognize it when you find it? How can you find what isn’t there? Isn’t nothing strange to ponder?

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Cruiser's avatar

I have found very little before but not nothing…yet.

At first that may sound disappointing, but I am referring to your question about finding nothing and as far as I know the best was to do that is to meditate. A couple times I was down to very little going on in and around me and it was quite interesting and also created a bit of a quandary for me as the less noise in my mind the more interesting I found the sensation. So in that sense less is more but at the same time I could see how it just might be possible to be completely void of thought, sounds and distractions and find nothing.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Void cannot exist in our physical realm. That’s why the nothingness state is typically associated with meditation practices.

“Nothing: It’s what rocks dream about.”
Plato?

marinelife's avatar

Why, no time at all.

flutherother's avatar

An interesting question. I don’t think it is possible for us to imagine nothingness. When we try to imagine nothingness we imagine the absence of something, if we were to find true nothingness our recognition would itself be something.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

This is one giant reason that I believe in some form of conscious existence after physical death. Our imaginations can always go one step beyond physical reality. And since IMHO it is impossible to imagine nothingness, then nothingness cannot possibly exist in any state, be it physical or non physical.

rebbel's avatar

When i search for my keys I always find nothing.
It usually takes me no time at all.

ucme's avatar

Oh like a vacuum you mean? Yeah I can never find our cleaner at home. Amazingly, the wife has no such problems locating it….strange that ;¬}

chyna's avatar

Dammit @marinelife, you always say what I was going to say!

Jeruba's avatar

Not long. Nothing is ever where I thought I left it.

Blondesjon's avatar

KA-BOOM!!!

sorry. that was the sound of my mind being blown . . .

ETpro's avatar

@Cruiser Recent medical research validates that meditation increases the size and activity of key areas of the brain involved in thought and creativity. And it doesn’t require mystical chanting, special incense or prayer bells. Just sitting quietly and copnstantly refocusing on breathing in and out will do. Every time your mind drifts to something the wife said or you forgot to do, just bring it back to your breathing. But the fact that the closer you got to nothingness, the more interesting it became may suggest there is something self limiting in the process. At ssome point, the approaching void becomes so interesting you may be distracted by the sheer interest of it.

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies Great saying from Plato. But we’ve got to find the rock that let out that secret and get it to shut up? :-)

@marinelife & @chyna Great answers! I though of that right after I had asked this question and I wondered how long till someone gave that answer. :-)

@flutherother Exactly.

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies I hope you are right. :-)

@rebbel There is a vast difference between finding nothing and finding nothing that you were initially looking for. When you search for your keys you find all sorts of things, but they unfortunately aren’t your keys. I have the same condition, so I know. :-)

@ucme Ha! We all have our blind spots, don’t we. She probably can’t find the lawn mower. When something falls down our toilet, my wife can’t even find the hand attached to the end of her arm. She needs me to stick mine in there and retrieve the misplaced item.

@Jeruba You are always the master of the well-turned phrase, which is nothing to sneeze at. :-)

@Blondesjon Yeah, I know the feeling, my friend. That’s why I had to ask. I hate being the only exploding head in the crowd.

ratboy's avatar

No need to search, I got plenty of nothin’ right now.

Berserker's avatar

Nothing cannot exist as it is defined, for all that which defines it actually defines something that isn’t nothing to describe nothing. Like how everything used to explain perfection are actually all imperfections. If nothing really is nothing, it can’t exist, because nothingness as we would know it in that term can have no description. As soon as words are attributed to it, it becomes something.
Emptiness isn’t nothing, it’s the presence of a lack of something, whether in a glass or in your heart. Thirst and pain are quite something, indeed.
This topic always confuses me. I’m in the search of nothingness, true nothingness. Emptiness, state zero, whatever you want, but everywhere I go, this nothing is always something. I might find it when I’m dead, but even then, not being alive isn’t nothing, it’s death, or at least, not being there anymore. That nothing might, under this example, be defined as not being there still makes it something, so again, it isn’t nothing.

Yes, nothing is very strange to ponder. As far as I know, it can’t even exist, besides a word used to describe some situation for the sake of convenience; there’s nothing there; meaning that whatever you were hoping to find there is missing. But true nothingness…gah.

ETpro's avatar

@ratboy How much nothing do you have? How much is too much?

@Symbeline Very well said. It is indeed mind boggling to ponder, as is infinity. Perhaps they are one and the same thing. How do you really distinguish the difference between nothing at all and nothin but… You can’t. Becususe to even be there to describe it, you invalidate its existence.

Berserker's avatar

@ETpro Becususe to even be there to describe it, you invalidate its existence.
Exactly, right that right there. It’s so weird to understand something that isn’t real, at least, as far as my logic can take me.
And as you mention, infinity makes no sense to me either. At all. I don’t see how anything can be infinite. It’s totally impossible. Then again, perhaps there are things that human logic has its limits when it comes to comprehension. But then, as far as I know, infinity is something we made up. Shit be getting fucked up. Even a circle isn’t infinite, since it creates a shape, and therefore limits itself. Sure, you could circle it with your finger forever and it will never end, but it’s still limited in its trajectory, unlike infinity as we define it. I guess maybe it depends on the different perceptions that people have of such things, but if nothing and infinity are so hardcore, we wouldn’t need to perceive them at all, right?

Haha this is messed up. I don’t believe infinity can exist because everything has to end at some point, yet I don’t believe in nothingness…then again, expiration or an ending isn’t nothing…going around in circles here, like the dragon eternally trying to give itself a blowjob. :/

ETpro's avatar

@Symbeline You do realize that your beliefs about nothingness and infinity are mutually exclusive, do you not? If everything ends somewhere, then there must be nothing beyond that end. If everything goes on forever and ever, then there is nothing but it. It has no end to define it as a something.

Berserker's avatar

Yeah I do realize that, I said so in that last post when I said everything has to end, yet I don’t believe in nothingness. Which is why it makes no damn sense to me lol.
But an end still isn’t nothing, which is what I was basing myself on, and explained in the post before that. Or tried to. I mean, even if something isn’t there anymore, it still exists in that we know about it. It’s dead, and being dead is a thing, not nothing. Does it make any sense?
It’s like, when things end, they end, but that doesn’t mean they’re nothing, they’re just not what we knew them as. Like if a good friend dies, now they’re just a rotting corpse, and no longer the good friend. Nothing has nothing to do with that. Wait wtf. XD
There’s stuff going on in my head here that I’m not sure I can find any words to.
So what’s real? Infinity which has no end to define it, or nothingness which nullifies infinity?

ratboy's avatar

@ETpro; I have so much nothing that I could give you half and never miss a thing.

ETpro's avatar

@Symbeline Same questions that fly around in my head too.

@ratboy So you have an infinity of nothing. How can that ne?

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